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         |  umbroman3
             from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 18:20 [#02496118] Points: 6123 Status: Lurker
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 | https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/september-11th-redux#/ 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 18:26 [#02496119] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | bit lost for words with this one 
 
 
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         |  freqy
             on 2016-05-17 18:32 [#02496120] Points: 18724 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | cool idea but 
 The twin towers construction manager has already stated
 the twin towers were built for 'multiple' 707 impacts.
 
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 cant get more scientific than, that considering tests have
 already been done.
 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 18:37 [#02496121] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | they would have to build like for like to get anything resembling a fair test and that would cost billions, anyway
 we all know via simulation you have to change and fiddle
 around with the parameters alot to get the towers to fall
 down in the fairly precise vertical manner in which they
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         |  RussellDust
             on 2016-05-17 18:48 [#02496122] Points: 16155 Status: Lurker
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 | Shaggy did it. 
 
 
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         |  umbroman3
             from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 18:54 [#02496123] Points: 6123 Status: Lurker
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 | Mr Bombastic elephantastic 
 
 
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         |  umbroman3
             from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 19:08 [#02496124] Points: 6123 Status: Lurker
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 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tvy8-8q6U8 
 
 
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         |  chachmaster3000
             on 2016-05-17 19:45 [#02496127] Points: 676 Status: Lurker
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 | bush, storytelling to school children, a training mission to mimic the exact events there were unfolding
 simultaneously...
 
 our resilience to believe the good, or innocent err in
 people when it really matters is what makes lying so fun  :)
 
 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 19:59 [#02496129] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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         |  chachmaster3000
             on 2016-05-17 20:09 [#02496132] Points: 676 Status: Lurker
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 | he looks so both guilty and stupid. it's hard to tell if he knew. if he didn't know i figure at least one of the three
 stooges knew.
 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 20:11 [#02496133] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | yeah its impossible to say, i have to say Dick Cheney always gave me the creeps
 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 20:20 [#02496134] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | LAZY_TITLE 
 FBI guy makes some interesting points
 
 
 
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         |  chachmaster3000
             on 2016-05-17 20:30 [#02496135] Points: 676 Status: Lurker
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 | Yea I don't even need further validation.  From top to bottom, people are people, and psychos get in to politics
 for power all the fucking time.
 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 20:43 [#02496136] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | yes power attracts psychotic types thats unarguable 
 
 
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         |  freqy
             on 2016-05-17 20:56 [#02496137] Points: 18724 Status: Regular | Followup to Hyperflake: #02496134 | Show recordbag
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 | the fbi man died, likely from poisoning. 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 21:30 [#02496138] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | really? how did they get him 
 
 
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         |  freqy
             on 2016-05-17 21:50 [#02496140] Points: 18724 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | I dont know much but a brief google of him. was pretty recent anyways.
 
 check this one
 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 21:58 [#02496141] Points: 10796 Status: Regular
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 | what do you think of that video hyperflake? 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:00 [#02496142] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | the chemtrails one? 
 
 
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         |  RussellDust
             on 2016-05-17 22:05 [#02496144] Points: 16155 Status: Lurker
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 | Dying from cancer does happen, rather a lot. 
 "Exactly", some will say.
 
 I dunno. I hate all forms of propaganda.
 
 Chemtrails do exist, but not the extent a lot of ignorant
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:06 [#02496145] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | I think they are contrails rather than chemtrails because air humidity changes how long contrails and water vapor
 evaporates. Obviously the government has sprayed sections of
 the population back in the 40s and stuff like that so its
 not beyond the realms of possibility, i think its a much
 more nebulous proposition than discussing 911, more
 irrational thinking involved to arrive at that conclusion,
 basically i dont see enough evidence myself at the present
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:10 [#02496146] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | No doubt they carry out small scale experiments for stuff like inoculation for pandemics and population control. There
 is so many government agencies with weird agendas, do i
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 22:24 [#02496147] Points: 10796 Status: Regular
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 | i think this is strange that we find democracies hard to trust. clinton cant keep a few emails secret. how are 'they'
 supposed to bury a government plan to spray populations with
 death/mind control vapour
 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:32 [#02496148] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | yes thats one of my objections to conspiracy theories on the whole, however there are so many quasi government
 organisations embedded within america that arent really that
 beholden to the law of the land that could probably get away
 with quite a bit, you would like to think that there would
 be a whistle blower from someone who would say this is an
 evil scheme,
 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 22:35 [#02496149] Points: 10796 Status: Regular
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 | i dont think there are many psychos in democracy government. its an unfulfilling job requires patience and timing, not
 psycho impulsivity.
 psychos want to overthrow and devolve state infrastructure
 because the state enshrines respect for human autonomy and
 psychos think that is all guff and rubbish and we should be
 stripped of that and be something more basic and pure. thats
 why they are usually the revolutionary type of radical. i
 think this is often the case.
 
 so really you are supposed to watch out for people who want
 to undermine the state in extreme ways like violence or
 humiliation - basically the same way you would worry about
 someone who wants to do that to an individual human
 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 22:40 [#02496150] Points: 10796 Status: Regular
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 | fine lines between psychos and cunts i guess. i think democracy has mostly twats
 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:41 [#02496151] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | I definitely think there are elements of that type of person in the republican party at least, i wouldnt say its the
 majority of them but there are definite elements that crave
 obscene power and laugh at the proles. I think people like
 Dick Cheney and the like definitely exhibit that sort of
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 22:46 [#02496152] Points: 10796 Status: Regular
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 | cheney laughed at the proles and mao gathered the proles but cmon which one is really a psycho here and which one a cunt
 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:46 [#02496153] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | Do i think a cadre of these people conspired to do stuff like 911 i cant say, if they did wouldn't terribly surprise
 me as they definitely do have a contempt for democracy,
 their actions bare that out, sexed up dossiers, patriot act,
 getting all their corporate mates (Halliburton etc) on the
 military gravy train. At the very least they have benefited
 a great deal from all the chaos and strife, i think thats
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 22:47 [#02496154] Points: 10796 Status: Regular
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 | cersei lannister or the high sparrow? 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:49 [#02496155] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02496152
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 | well i say on the whole Mao killed alot more people i wont argue that, im just surmising with Cheney, perhaps he is
 more of a cunt than a psycho, probably a combination
 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:52 [#02496156] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02496154
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 | oh god neither, i really dislike the high sparrow more though its hard to say why
 
 
 
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         |  chachmaster3000
             on 2016-05-17 22:52 [#02496157] Points: 676 Status: Lurker
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 | "so really you are supposed to watch out for people who want 
 to undermine the state in extreme ways like violence or
 humiliation - basically the same way you would worry about
 someone who wants to do that to an individual human "
 
 i dunno. when you are a type-a narcissistic cunt and have so
 much power that most people are mere numbers or ants...well,
 i don't think you need to have angst to take out a few
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 22:52 [#02496158] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | great actor Johnathan Pryce 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 23:05 [#02496159] Points: 10796 Status: Regular
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 | in government (the more democratic it gets) power is usually diluted in lots of ways. so not always a suitable place for
 the really power hungry. its mostly full of ambitious types
 with small-medium agendas, often passionate about policy and
 boring stuff like that. some care about bigger things like a
 better world yet have a deluded vision and do terrible
 things. some are opportunists who find bending policy can
 favour themselves and they love to just have things their
 way even if it disadvantages people - but still not a madman
 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 23:06 [#02496160] Points: 10796 Status: Regular | Followup to Hyperflake: #02496158
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 | yeah hes good at that. you watch latest episode? 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 23:08 [#02496161] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | I largely agree with what your saying, but i think people like Nixon occasionally get through the net and do stuff
 like
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 23:10 [#02496162] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02496160
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 | yes it was a good one, i think anything that take place with daenerys is the shows week point as its been padded out for
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2016-05-17 23:17 [#02496163] Points: 10796 Status: Regular | Followup to Hyperflake: #02496162
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 | she had a good bit this time tho. so what did u think of sparrows reasoning LAZY_TITLE
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         |  chachmaster3000
             on 2016-05-17 23:18 [#02496164] Points: 676 Status: Lurker
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 | you're holding on to my loose usage or the term psycho, and you are relying on the idea of democracy too much imo,
 especially for the USA where public and private blind lines
 all the time.  it's all human behaviour and we are no where
 near having a great institutional firewall of
 accountability.
 
 i know what we are capable of, and all we are doing here is
 ruminating over who did what already happened
 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-17 23:26 [#02496165] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker
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 | I;m not sure of his reasoning, if he is telling the truth and has no ambition of his own then he is the most straight
 forward character in the program, surely there must be more
 to it than that, perhaps he is seeking vengeance for some
 reason., i havent read the books so i dont know for sure
 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2016-05-18 22:31 [#02496175] Points: 10796 Status: Regular | Followup to Hyperflake: #02496165
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 | no dude. what is straight talking about seeing thru the story? what is honest about leaving a feast? good food just
 left to waste. what is straight here?
 
 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2016-05-18 22:36 [#02496176] Points: 10796 Status: Regular
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 | i hope he gets killed by the end of this season 
 
 
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         |  AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2016-05-18 22:46 [#02496177] Points: 10796 Status: Regular
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 | the camera goes in on his face like he has a point. i just find him bad
 
 
 
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         |  Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2016-05-19 10:50 [#02496182] Points: 31541 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02496175
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 | yes religious zealots are incredibly annoying, i like the idea of the character as it adds another dimension to the
 story, its obvious he is going to die a nasty way, probably
 some variation of the walk of shame with hot pokers up his
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