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As seen in the may issue of WIRED: "This might seem strange, because not many musicians say this, but I'd rather make a record that's rewarding than challenging," Moby says. "People love their favorite records. And I aspire to make a record someone might be able to love in that way." I don't know about anyone else but that seems really lazy. Its like saying 'yeah, I'll put out a simple record that's really catchy cause people like that'. I don't know. A lot of cds I love were probably difficult for the artist, or challenging. He makes it sound like no one likes challenging work. I bet Confield was hard for Ae to do. I love Confield. |
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i cant wait for moby's 18 |
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challanging music generally lasts longer than a catchy tune IMHO (unless it's a real classic) |
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i heard mobys new song and i think its pretty bland, basic, bad, boring, and butterfinger-like tasting. |
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Apparently, the magazine also states that 18 sounds pretty much like Play. Thats gotta suck. |
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moby needs to be shot |
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lol |
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I'd like a spacesuit |
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Me to.....and a pet siberian Tiger |
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Sigfried & Roy? |
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Discussions of Moby should be confined to the degree of which he sucks. I for one would say that he sucks a lot. Others may argue that he sucks slightly less and that would be acceptable as well. |
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moby is wonderful........even before play.....which sold like 43 billion.... not that selling tons of records to mindless fucks is an accomplishment. |
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moby with his bullshit: challenging vs. rewarding can't it be BOTH!?!? if he cant make it both, then he sucks none of his music has been challenging (in the least) OR rewarding to me in fact, being challenged by music is what makes it rewarding to me... (at least most of the time) there are SOME exceptions of course.. cus a simple melody can also be very 'rewarding' but then it has to be more than 'catchy', which is all moby's melodies are it has to be moving in some way |
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i actually like moby! his stuff is very refreshing...and is very damn better than geogaddi... moby's old stuff is really good. |
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Actually Moby is a talented musician, more so then you guys are willing to give him credit for. Sure his stuff isn't as good as some others, but the man KNOWS his instruments. |
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Yup, I think Play is fucking excellent, even if he did milk it for all its worth. But lets face it, he was in near obscurity for a good few years before that |
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before play...moby was an underground act to some extent. and he even played live at a show (festival?) with aphex twin and orbital. |
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i thought that play was a little to poppy personally, and really didn't like some of the "old fat black lady southern gospel" vocals to it... and a lot of play seemed to be like a goolosh of samples moby found and put together in a catchy fassion (especially some of the vox) |
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this topic title contains a catachresis (yes i looked it up) |
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Wait a second. Are you telling me that Moby is good? I bought Everything is Wrong way back when it first came out. It's fucking awful. Then I thought, "no no this isn't right, there's got to be more to this". So then I went out and bought the two disc remix of the same album. It was terrible. Somebody -- anybody -- try to defend that "Feeling So Real" song. Holy piss. Moby sucks. |
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He's supposed to suck live They got this fat black woman on for his tv appearance for one of the tracks to sing the sampled vocals, and it sounded shite |
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moby is wonderful live ..........seen him 2 times !!!!! great !!!! lots of fun..... you gotta love that bald head fucker. |
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oh, well thats pissed on my fire...but I did read it somewhere |
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"pisses all over B3n's fire !!!!" :0) |
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That fire took me ages to light using only some forest canopy tinder and some flint! (the joke being my man ray in the pic is a survival expert who always lights fires) |
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B3n-------thats not you in your pic? cheater. |
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GO TO THE WWW.RAYMEARS.COM X-PERIENCE! |
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=) |
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who is ray mears?? i thought that was you too |
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I said it boefore and Ill say it again, MOBY BLOWS ASSHOLE ! Sorry, his music is for 30 year old housewifes and Bank Clerks ! |
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I have a cousin that only listens to what the crowd is into, what the popular trend is at the moment. A follower. He listens to Moby. That ALONE is enough to turn me off the guy. I don't want to be associated with anyone my cousin is into. |
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jeez, he better not get into warp |
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He never will, he's a totally hopeless and tasteless sheep. I'm confident he'll be listening to what MTV pumps his feeble mind for the rest of his life. But if he DID get into Warp, I'd welcome him to the Land of Music that Doesn't Suck!!!! |
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yes, there have been many threads devoted solely to Moby bashing..... Moby is incredible live.... |
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as someone who owns several moby albums, was once really into him, and even met him before he "got famous", i gotta put my two cents in. moby is a major sell-out. no, i'm not talking about play. i'm talking about: 1) the commercial exploitation of every single one of the 18 songs on play. i don't care how often or how well moby justifies this, i can never excuse such blatant consumerism. 2) moby's renouncement of his essays and political/social comments made in interviews. in either 2000 or 2001 he said in an interview that he didn't know what he was talking about (which spits in the face of the eloquence of what he wrote and said and how much i agreed with it). 3) his endorsement of al gore over ralph nader in the 2000 election, and worse yet the juvenile insults he made about nader (who, if you don't know, is FAR more of an environmentalist and government/judiciary reformer than gore). 4) his renouncement of his album animal rights, my favorite moby album. yes, it was a different album for him. but it was something he REALLY believed in and dammit it sounds awesome (tho i have a major problem listening to it now). not only does he never play any of the songs live with his band (despite the fact that they lend themselves better to live performance than anything he's ever done), he never talks about it and he's admitted to being overly ambitious and experimental on it. 5) in a recent cover story for the new york times magazine (weekend supplement to the newspaper), his best friend talks about how moby is only interested in hits. he'll get his staff to buy him hundreds of new cd's and the only song he'll listen to on it is the hit because hits are the only thing he wants to make. as for albums he buys on his own, he criticized radiohead for making a good pair of albums recently but chastized them for not including hits. what a poor attitude. 6) the new song, "we are all made of stars." so terrible. it's play without the ambition and experimentation. though it aims to be "pop," its lack of o |
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...of originality makes it fall way short of even being catchy. i haven't heard anything else from the new album, but the songs he made for the tomb raider and blade 2 soundtracks have been pretty wack as well. fuck moby. |
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Sorry if this is off the rant, but I have a question about Moby's past. How is he connected to the band Flipper? I know he has punk roots, and I own 2 flipper albums, but no mention of Moby. Yet, I've heard he is related to the early Southern California punk scene. |
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he used to play guitar in punk bands in the 80s, prolly flipper included... check out moby.org for his past details |
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I know that "That's When I Reach for My Revolver" is a cover of the same song by Mission of Burma. Which by the way is a great song in original form. |
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agreed. are you a fan of the animal rights album? not only is it a good album for punk rock, it also has some AMAZING organic ambient stuff - totally underrated. |
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