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I want to buy me a nice gift and was thinking about a sampler/sequencer like the mpc 5000..any one here who uses one? Or do you have other suggestions? I want one that stores all samples and songs and can be used as a stand alone device..it must be the core of the set up.. |
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use the computer you post on xlt with |
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Lol...so you think it's easier to use a software sequencer f.e. ableton instead of a hardware sequencer? |
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yeah, with a daw like ableton you can sequence it however you want. piano roll, recording keys/pads, using a controller like Push which is ten times more powerful than any MPC, building your own sequencers in Max4Live... not being totally serious tho. MPCs are very cool in their own right. I've had like 3 1000s over the years. you can expand it with an internal HDD, so it can probably store all your smaples. with the (I'd never use an MPC1k without) you can also record entire tracks right on the machine itself, use the sampler as a synth with LFOs and everything, sequence in grid mode as well as step and live recording etc etc. I used a midi keyboard with it to record melodies, and used the MPC as the centerpiece in my studio controlling external synths and other samplers etc. etc et c etfcce. never used any other MPC, but the 2500 seems evern better if you need more ins 'n outs. don't really see the need for the 5000, and the 500 seems too basic for my taste. |
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Software on good computer = can do anything you can imagine with basically no limits Hardware = fuck looking at a computer screen, this shit is on my lap, and I can sit here for hours making tracks and tweaking shit and getting involved in the OS and creating original workflow and using on-board limitations to boost creativity, which will ultimately give me more brain-power and IDM action, which might also improve my jumpkicks 23%, and since this hardware is not hooked up to the internet I won't accidentally spend my musical inspiration passion hours hanging out on reddit and facebook Computer setup is basically ANYTHING, but a dedicated hardware unit is actually an instrument in and of itself and should be thought of as such. Like instead of buying a piano or guitar or drums, you could use a DAW. But an MPC or groovebox or raveolution or whatever, those are instruments, like a guitar. Much more fun and can often have unique flavor. But a sampler might not be so much fun without synth capabilities, so something that can sample and has as synth is good for general musics. |
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Any favourites/examples? I am interested myself~ |
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Well, I've only owned/used the all-in-one boxes of yesteryear, so like Roland MC-505 + SP-202, which is basically the MC-808/909. ...MC-303, Yamaha RM1x, Korg Electribe series, yah those old school stuffs... Prooooobably newer stuff like OP-1, Machinedrum, uh- more "new potential". I really loved my MC-505, though, even though I could push it to crash... I could sit easily for hours with it on my lap with no head fatigue like computer screens give you. I love modern DAW tech, but I am sort of sick of looking at a computer screen and using a mouse. When you got some hardware on your lap/desk, the whole OS becomes part of muscle memory, so you eventually use the machine by clicking around in every function with FINGERS, knowing exactly what is what-- you barely use your eyes, so your hands become one with the machine... with much more ear listening, instead of eye focusing. Shit actually gets done fast, WITHOUT A MOUSE OR LARGE SCREEN. Amazing, simple shit. Love it. Click the machine on, produce. None of this having to start up a supercomputer that can render Jurassic Park in real-time just to write music. |
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How about the Roland MC 909? Seems to have it all packed into one. You sound like a nice friend, crazone. |
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I think retape convinced me to use my computer as the base for my home studio, I've set it all up again and its running. I use an old version of ableton, live 5, the Yamaha Rm1x and su700 sampler. The push is something I consider know as an option to buy, problem is you don't get the full version of ableton with it, just an intro version. For now I'm gonna focus on making one song with the equipment I've got and see if it fulfills my needs, if not I'll probably gonna buy me push. I'll keep you posted my friends, thanks for your help! |
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SC Studio 440:) |
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or a computer |
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Yamaha SU700 -get the extra storage tho & they do look a bit Mickey Mouse, me and Speedy J both have one and we are both Libras |
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maybe its the colour scheme |
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".it must be the core of the set up" fuck that then, i thought u just had bucks to blow on old samplers with pads |
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I've found that as long as you have an idea or inspiration for a track, the tools you use to make it doesn't matter. however, if you're going in clueless, having some fun hardware to jam on can potentially (not always) spark an idea or something happy new year! |
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Suddenly I remembered I already have hardware that works fine, I don't have the zip drive for the su700 so maybe I'll be spending my money on that. |
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Happy New year! |
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I have a MPC1000 (with JJOS1 - essential) and it's a pretty nifty box, but certainly NOT a computer. The best/worst thing about computers is they can do anything. The big trouble is they need updates, get viruses, suddenly stop working (ok "hardware" can too but seems less fragile), etc. The computer has the internet, so you will end up clicking on that bloody icon and wasting time or getting distracted, or playing a game or whatever. Best thing to get is a little fun to use box that gets you banging out little tunes then use the computer to polish it. A MPC could do that, or a simple x0x style step sequencer driving a synth, or who knows - the key is it should be simple and fun to use. I've got a Boss SP303 and it is such an absolute JOY to use, even though it is very limited. One of the newer Roland/Boss boxes might be good. I have seen vids of the SP555 and it looks great, however bear in mind that most of the operations will be done "by ear" rather than on a MPC where you can arrange things "by eye" on the screen as well. I feel that the SP series are aimed more for DJs than producers but really it depends on the person. A SP303 is perhaps comparable to a SP12 or SP1200 (never used them) but I know in the 80s loads of fairly simple hiphop tracks were done on them but then the MPC came along and rightly blew it out of the water. What is my conclusion? Well, I think MPC1000 is a great thing to have providing you get the JJOS. SP series are also fun and actually even using them just as external fx is well worth it. Both are great at certain things. If my house burnt down and I could only afford to buy one I do not know what I would decide - head says MPC but heart says SP303 (or I suppose the SP555 these days). There are other gizmos out there but I don't know how good they are. The fact I didn't buy them is a good sign I don't rate them highly - but that's just my opinion. |
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native instruments is all you need. never get the people who buy hardware in 2014 (especially for ridiculous amount of $$$). pirate that stuff and buy a hot hooker instead. |
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phuture music = stop using jer fulkan eyez |
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machines are fun |
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