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offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 00:36 [#02443306]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular



it says a lot that modern activism has chosen to represent
itself using this mask. it says 'a lot' ---- but a lot of
what, exactly?

trust me we ought to discuss this shit

the film is really into itself. the evil police state
britain is real wank material. its self pleasuring bullshit.
its a dull dream. imdb rating is 8.2


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 01:04 [#02443307]
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"documentary"

this is going to be 2013. this shit is really embarrassing.
the music/fashion/art isnt even good. counter revolution
stuff from the 90s had a better look didnt it? i mean dont
you feel like this shit is embarrassing?


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2012-10-22 01:10 [#02443308]
Points: 4921 Status: Lurker



i could suppose that the film is enough to placate the
easily fed masses with the feeling of accomplishment they
would've otherwise had to earn themselves out on the street
in the real world. or something like that.

i wouldn't feel compelled to post here as often as i do,
with all the inane asinine shit that i babble, if more
people contributed. unfortunately, i don't make music, so
it's not as easy to spark up a convo that isn't about junk
non specific to this particular community's main focus.
sorry, idk y i felt it necessary to add that on.

back on topic; i only watched the movie once. maybe it was
trying to provoke a similar reaction in order to instigate
martial law on some level? please add to the discourse...


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 01:26 [#02443309]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to EVOL: #02443308



erm wot u mean lol?


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 01:27 [#02443310]
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on a side note i know basically all of you are too
coolfag to talk about any of my fagbollocks, finding this
kind of silly shit better suited to an argument in the
comment section of a david icke video or something. i
understand. however, lets at least submit a point of view on
this serious subject without fearing any damage to our
reputation. either way we're on the internet and we might as
well internet



 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2012-10-22 01:43 [#02443311]
Points: 4921 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02443310



ah, sorry. i did not see your second post when i had
initially opened this thread. i was simply talking about the
movie itself. i wasn't sure what direction you were trying
to go with the topic. i guess that's why i inserted that
middle paragraph. which i think goes with the same feeling
to the post that this one is in response to (in case you
post again before i do).

i barely just started watching the link you posted so give
me maybe 30 mins...


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 02:05 [#02443312]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to EVOL: #02443311



oh hey man dont burden yourself with too many of my links
yo
im being erratic and im pretty sure ill leave you a bit
confused

im trying to focus of the intentions of activism at the
moment and how honest those intentions are when you choose a
mask obviously inspired by a poop film that ought to be
laughable to anyone with any real intentions


 

offline anirog on 2012-10-22 02:10 [#02443313]
Points: 762 Status: Regular



I don't follow British politics however I gather David
Cameron is a decedent of the queen on England.

I'd also argue British colonialism is still in effect

Hong Kong is battle ground of the multinationals as the
world moves towards globalization and the crown can argue
it's politics are preferable as they've done it before.




 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2012-10-22 02:20 [#02443314]
Points: 4921 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02443312



im trying to focus of the intentions of activism at the
moment and how honest those intentions are when you choose a

mask obviously inspired by a poop film that ought to be
laughable to anyone with any real intentions


in short, i agree... and with that, i'm out. lol


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 02:36 [#02443315]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular



the revolution is basically real in that we are all supposed
to get really pissed off about bankers and arseholes ect and
do some shit about it because those people are irrelevant
shit traders farting on all the good vibes. it gots to go
down. however i really wish it was being propelled by decent
men in established places rather than a mixture of: tinfoil
hat cru - internet opinion club - footlocker looters of
twitter.
i mean i realise its going to be the internet that makes the
next big move and we are all waiting to see what happens.
everyone seems so cosy with that shit. its going to go
wrong.


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 02:40 [#02443316]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to anirog: #02443313



im not sure dude.


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 02:45 [#02443317]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to EVOL: #02443314



well if im right and the intentions are shitty then we have
a real shitty 2013 coming up. when you get back tell me what
we should do about it because im sure we are both worried


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2012-10-22 02:55 [#02443318]
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on the other hand most of the internet seems pretty solid
and most nobs who create/are interviewed in these sloppy
docs are correctly criticised and overlooked. if we can rely
on the common sense of the internet to make more of a
statement then the next 10 years are going to be really
exciting and we can probably stop worrying so chin up maybe


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2012-10-22 04:04 [#02443319]
Points: 4921 Status: Lurker



i think the thing is that the people who are hurting most
from the current economic system believe that the people at
the very top want to kill everybody underneath them. not so!
it's just that the people at the very bottom, the same
people who are hurting the most have become disposable. so
while they're trying to come to terms with that, they're
trying to rally people to these injustices they feel being
perpetrated on them, while claiming human rights violations.
not to say that isn't true. but the middle class, i guess,
in this situation keep the top a float. so as long as the
1%, or whatever you'd like to call them, can keep stringing
the middle class along... then yeah, it will be shitty for
the lower class, and the middle class will be to busy
competing for the crumbs to give a fuck. slowly, the lower
class will be eliminated. and anyone who has a chance to
rise above class will be so desensitized to this new type of
genocide, that this mess of a so called civilized society
will go on and on. since technology will allow those in
power now to never have to vacate that power to a younger
more idealistic generation, by transhumanism.

but for now, violence should not even be part of the
picture. there is no such thing as anon. if there is, they
aren't dick now. they've either been infiltrated by any
number of govt agencies or even, any number of govt agencies
could make a video like that, or put out any type of
message, under the moniker. so i wouldn't trust their
propaganda either. you don't have ak's or ar's, a plan, or
property for that matter, then you aren't really a threat to
any powers that be, agenda.

no one can predict how people will use technology, so there
isn't anybody anywhere that has some master plan or knows
how to put everything together to control the future.
technology has now become self propelled. you can't take it
away. you can't replace the economy, because everything in
western society is dependent on it. nothing short of
collapse will change our ways, sorry.


 

offline anirog on 2012-10-22 04:41 [#02443320]
Points: 762 Status: Regular | Followup to EVOL: #02443319



Not to hijack your thread however I tend to disagree the
wealthiest 1% no longer care about the future or the
repercussions of their actions the pursuit of maximum
profits in an ever shrinking world with resources that have
been exhausted means the existing population is the target
of exploitation. In a rush to achieve their financial goals
the cost to the nowt and the future is to be ignored.

Essentially new growth is to slow and innovation is
burdensome existing infrastructure is the choice real
estate.

Have a good time...



 

offline gingaling from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2012-10-22 08:32 [#02443321]
Points: 2281 Status: Lurker



tinfoil hat cru - internet opinion club - footlocker
looters of
twitter.

unfortunately these are the people that are left that have
time and motivation to do anything, even if it is half
hearted attempts at activism. as said the rest of the middle
class, and the pro-lo's are too busy scrapping over crumbs
to give a damn.



 

offline anirog on 2012-10-22 18:17 [#02443347]
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If your willing to see through the eyes of a psychopath deal
book on the nytimes covers the intricacies of the pyramid
schemes

This article dives into the shell game at Lehman Brothers

Essentially Lehman actually did drill an oil well around the
rings of Saturn and they cant figure how they did it.

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/10/09/a-better-solution-is
-needed-for-failed-financial-giants/


 

offline drill rods from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2012-10-23 00:59 [#02443360]
Points: 1171 Status: Regular



Pisses me off that so many people wear that Guy Fawkes mask
without having a fucking clue who Guy Fawkes was. Guess it's
no different to the Che Guevara shirts lol


 

offline gingaling from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2012-10-23 11:25 [#02443381]
Points: 2281 Status: Lurker | Followup to drill rods: #02443360



wasnt he the guy from the v for vendetta film oder? the one
that stephen hawkings played


 

offline jnasato from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2012-10-23 11:50 [#02443383]
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The end of a horrible thing can be the start of a beautiful
thing.

Losing the comforts that have been ingrained into society-
the comforts that actually harm in the long run- is not a
problem. Discomfort and world chaos may ensue, but such
emotions and reactions are similar for any change. The
change of the world will be much like going to a new
elementary school-- met with nervousness and confusion, but
new friends will be made; old good friends will always be
there.


 

offline Torture Garden from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2012-10-23 13:16 [#02443386]
Points: 974 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02443315



None of this interests me. There are genuinely radical
anti-capitalist movements on the left who are challenging
capitalism or at least making a difference for people on a
day to day basis. That's all I care about. These movements
manifest themselves in a variety of ways and do not exist in
a identifiable and unified movement like the groups
mentioned in this thread.


 

offline RussellDust on 2012-10-23 17:49 [#02443390]
Points: 16053 Status: Lurker



This thread is rubbish. (not having a go at anymore)

I really feel for Alan Moore.

And for those of you who say he's super rich so it doesn't
matter...don't, and fuck off!


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2012-10-23 18:18 [#02443392]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to RussellDust: #02443390



but im on moore's side here:
wiki - Moore was quoted as saying that the comic book had
been "specifically about things like fascism and anarchy.
Those words, 'fascism' and 'anarchy,' occur nowhere in the
film. It's been turned into a Bush-era parable by people too
timid to set a political satire in their own country."


 

offline anirog on 2012-10-23 19:29 [#02443393]
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Seems David Cameron's great grandfather founded HSBC
according to the website wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewen_Cameron_%28banker%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_and_Shanghai_Banking
_Corporation


 

offline RussellDust on 2012-10-23 19:39 [#02443394]
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Yes sorry i didn't mean giving your views on the movie was
rubbish. More this idea that there's a link with the outside
world. Even if the book/movie want to reflect on certain
aspects of society, it's just a fiction.



 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2012-10-23 20:26 [#02443400]
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anonymous says, 'we will not forgive'

why? surely non-forgiveness will only lead to more
non-forgiveness, right?


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2012-10-24 17:42 [#02443461]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to RussellDust: #02443394



infact im saying its fiction and a sloppy one at that.
however a seemingly huge portion of mainstream online
opinion believes it to be some kind of calling. thats the
topic here


 


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