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Advocate
on 2012-04-12 21:28 [#02432877]
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it's art.
art is an extension (and a culmination) of human thought and expression, made possible through our use of complex language.
art has faults, like everything else man-made. we are all, after all, "human, all too human".
now, shut the fuck up and eat what you're given asshole.
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RussellDust
on 2012-04-12 21:34 [#02432878]
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"art is.."
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staz
on 2012-04-12 21:55 [#02432879]
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you want him to suck you off and ask you for review score?
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Advocate
on 2012-04-12 21:58 [#02432880]
Points: 3319 Status: Lurker | Followup to staz: #02432879
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it'd be real cool if your directed your questions at a specific person.
yo.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-04-12 22:08 [#02432881]
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tl:dr but i get your point.
problem is that this isn't really the artists' fault but rather the consumers'. there is just such a high demand for quality right now. you pay a lot for your concerts - you want "the perfect experience". it gets you in a horrible state where you start throwing out any artistic live element out of your set being afraid it might crap out.
the worst thing is that instead of being booed at for your lack of investment you are being prais for delivering such a great performance. and you start to get into the loop. actually not tryingto make a star or something out of myself but the mentioned stuff is exactly why i stopped doing livesets - because i was unable to deliver a conistent live-set which would be really live yet still stable and interesting for the viewer.
it's a sad trend. look at all those "big" names. david guetta plays from playback. amon tobin plays the same set from cd's on a tour getting 10k on a single gig. justice play from midi controllers which aren't even plugged in and skrillex, well don't get me started.
problem is that i'm afraid that most of the "really great performances" are also all fake like the legendary daft punk pyramid stuff. i mean if they did it live then full on respect but taking two truck loads of synths onto the stage doesn't make your appearance more live. i've seen the chemical brothers live with a rack of analogs in the back which they touched in moments where there were no changes in the music, just sample loops.
now you face a kind of big problem. as you are doing jack shit to your music and you can't stand just around for an hour you start to think of ways to either cover yourself at all or at least take of the attention of the viewers. visuals are always great. bright, musically controlled visuals. yup. look at this shit. if that drop in 1.34 doesn't make you moist nothing will ever again.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-04-12 22:08 [#02432882]
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it just makes me so sad looking how much unnecessary movements this goddamn goofball does on stage that do FUCKIN NOTHING to the music. this set is 100% prerecorded. i tried live-syncing with several vj artists and it's impossible to make such accurate drops every goddamn time.
squarepusher is fake too. look how much he waves his hands during the show. like he has nothing better to do. would be funier to just wank yourself under that booth. maybe he even does.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-04-12 22:13 [#02432883]
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well as long as people are okay with that it's fine. i'm not going to see sp as a protest. a lot of will go anyways because they now shit about making music and will thing he just shits out snare rushes on the fly.
i'll rather wait for someone who has the balls to make something cool live. look at motherfucking tim exile. his laptops craps out at least once every gig. and what ? it even makes his show better. or i go see someone from raster-noton again when i want something with flashy music controlled visuals but still done on the fly.
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Advocate
on 2012-04-12 22:26 [#02432886]
Points: 3319 Status: Lurker | Followup to sadist: #02432881
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jealousy is -- bar none -- one of the worst human attributes, ever.
for some reason it always makes me lol.
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Jaser
from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2012-04-12 22:34 [#02432888]
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when I first saw him in the sir will romsey it was just a place to crash/stay wired all night. Nobody gave a crap... then.. nothing changes.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-04-12 22:39 [#02432889]
Points: 8670 Status: Lurker | Followup to Advocate: #02432886
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no humans here. it's the internet god damnit.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2012-04-12 23:07 [#02432894]
Points: 2838 Status: Lurker | Followup to sadist: #02432883
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Ha! I was just about to recommend you seeing Tim Exile. Have you seen him in Wroc³aw where he supposedly used gear collected around the city due o his own having been lost by Lufthansa?
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staz
on 2012-04-14 04:08 [#02432957]
Points: 9844 Status: Regular | Followup to Advocate: #02432880
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it was for da giblet
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