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Cuz if you luv her, you want to eat her delicious chocolate poops amirite? Also, here is another sermon from my new religion, youtubgion. In this sermon, father stefbot gives an eye jerking teary jerky eyed tear jerking, or he jerks your eyes out or something, talk about.. the snuffalupa-pottymi; their growing rectal power and the meaning in our lives about peanut butter types of economics and voluntary nonharmingtons: See you later, Chocopoops! |
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monoid will know so don't worry too much |
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For $25 USD I will watch that video and write a concise response. Paypal the fee to fleetmouse@gmail.com |
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Yo yo yo, I'm virally advertising choice wMw-approved memes for your benefit, but if you want to continue taking the blue pill as an arrested development, state indoctrinated, ad brainwashed, food poisoned stockholm syndrome corporate slave, that's you're decision yo. Alex Jone's tactics are to take all keywords under his own umbrella without infighting. Even if they're ridiculous, like believing in a new world order on mars, they can currently be profited from to continually build a war chest to fight the real corruption. Intermittently, he blasts holes in true corrupt matrix with intelligence, a high vocabulary and a near photographic memory. The whole operation is of course a fusion of spreading info and making money doing it, the latter part necessary in our current system to be effective because of the power of the competing state monopolized sewer stream propaganda. In Tyler Durden we trusted. Other people like stefbot have different tactics. They can't be taxononmically classified with Time Cube and UFO tards or something, many of which might be cointelpro aimed to discredit legitimate operations which you apparently bought into. War on general purpose computing: http://weev.livejournal.com/402016.html |
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You have excellent language skills and lots of native intelligence but you don't know nearly enough about philosophy and economics to recognize why molyneux is an evil vegetable. will bring you up to speed on vital issues in modern philosophy. will explain why free market libertarian dogmatism is something empirically falsified and no longer believed in even by conservatives. I have these as hard copies, otherwise I'd upload them for you. |
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stefbot is gay |
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fleetmouse, have you read any or ? you seem like a perceptive person, do you have any other book-recommendations? |
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Those two books look good. I've never heard of Voegelin. Looks challenging because he's an intellectual heavyweight I'd probably disagree with. Why are the reviewers mentioning Rush Limbaugh? Jesus. I thought John Gray was the women are from mars men are from venus guy. There's another writer whose essay I read recently who talked about how conservatism is actually a radical revolutionary and utopian movement despite its name, I forget who. Maybe Bill Chocopoops. Have you read by Eric Hoffer? It repeats itself a lot for such a short book but it's good anyways. |
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i wonder what he does when he gets ripped off ? i need to know. |
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No one would ever rip anyone off in an anarchist utopia. Why would they want to, they're incredibly wealthy because the government isn't taxing and oppressing them. Besides, people are always rational actors so you just have to tell your mugger about Austrian economic theory. |
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thank you brother. I am transformed, I now have no need for violence, I wear protective herbs. May your path lead to wisdom, and in wisdom, know ye peace. : ) |
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Businesses would still compete to solve disputes between people, ie. instead of a single-player, state, power/force monopoly, there would be free market forces in the business of solving disputes, each trying to convince the customers with their own ingenuity that they won't become corrupt/evil because people wouldn't want to economically support that. People could voluntarily choose to pay this or that business to solve their dispute, constantly chiseling improvements due to their selection of competing businesses. |
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I still hold out faint hope that you're trolling, chocopoops. |
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yeah, there's two John Gray's. i'll check out that book recommendation. thanks! |
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You might also like Philosophy and the Mirror of Nature by Richard Rorty if you have a high tolerance for epistemology and analytic philosophy. Not really relevant to what we're discussing in this thread but still an amazing read. Skull crackingly dense. (BTW w M w I have The True Believer in PDF if you want... email fleetmouse at gmail dot com if you're interested. You might experience, as the French say "le shock of self recognition") |
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ew wtf are you a libertarian now |
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sorry that's not nice i don't know how to handle it listen to fleetmouse prob |
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Oh man I saw another book by the same John Gray you're talking about, called Straw Dogs, and had a look through it... the dude's been driving around in the . I mean granted we can be a pretty fucked up bunch of monkeys but we're more flexible than other monkeys and we have this thing called culture that to a great extent makes us what we are, and what we are is largely the stories we tell ourselves, and this guy wants to tell us Trent Reznor lyrics. I subscribe to Vonnegut's Bokononism - "Live by the foma that make you brave and kind and healthy and happy." (foma - harmless untruths; lies that, if used correctly, can be useful) |
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I used to agree with Molyneux (heck, I was even a donator to the man!), but I've since realised that (despite his good intentions) he is actually pretty crazy. There's a website dedicated discussing Stefan and philosophy . I highly recommend you look at that series of articles as it tackles his book: UPB (Stef's pride and joy - a logical mess). |
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*Stefan and his philosophy |
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Hey, did you find Straw Dogs on the internet or in a book shop? I've been eager to read something from it. "We're more flexible than other monkeys and we have this thing called culture that to a great extent makes us what we are, and what we are is largely the stories we tell ourselves." I'd maintain that "culture" isn't evidence of the factuality of anything, at all. Our 'flexibility' is inherent in the concept that we hold of ourselves and have no objective basis in anything outside of ourselves. It is self-referential. In phenomenal-experiential nature we are merely an integrated part of that phenomenality. Thanks for the book recommendation. I've sent you a couple of my recommendations on your e-mail. |
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The world is lousy with failed academics who decided to pick on those less able to defend themselves - the uneducated, the young, the naive. If you know sweet fuck all about philosophy or anything else for that matter, then demagogues like Molyneux, Ayn Rand, or even god forbid Lyndon LaRouche are going to sound pretty impressive. And if you do know something then debunking Molyneux is like drinking from a firehose of liquid shit, distasteful and hardly worth the effort. |
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I always call my girlfriend hot pussied whore and she likes it even more with hot milk ! |
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If those sorts of "soft" values aren't facts and aren't fully determined by facts then pessimism is just as epistemically unjustified as optimism. The question is, which do you prefer? What we think of ourselves affects us profoundly. I don't have a reference handy but a recent study showed that people perform better if they've just been shown something that reinforces the concept of free will than if they've been shown something that reinforces determinism. So even if free will is in some sense an illusion we're pragmatically justified in believing it. |
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avi or it didn't happen |
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think I heard that expression in a review and then use it everyday since ! |
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Indeed, it may seem a little futile, but for those who have been sucked into such cult-like brain spheres may find such critiques as a useful aid in finding their way out. I'm not sure if this was entirely the case with me, but I definitely found reading critiques of Molyneux to be quite validating once I started to disentangle myself from those ideas. |
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I think it's best handled by previous members, then, who have enough invested in the project that they get something out of writing a critique. The thing about Stef is he's relatively young so he potentially has decades more to spew this crap. That's sad. I can see him turning into a Canadian LaRouche. I don't think he's nearly as crafty and evil as that though. Does Stef ever talk about "Zionism" *wink wink*? "International bankers"? Just curious. |
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As in, is he a bit alex jones? No. Not so much. He went on his show once, but I think that was just more to get himself some exposure. |
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I wonder if Alex Jones charges some of his guests to appear the same way he charges banner advertisers of quack remedies and survival gruel on infowars.com. He's providing his guests with ready access to a large audience of people with the critical thinking skills of algae. |
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I'm fairly certain he's sticking to it for the money. All he has to do is show confidence in the videos and books, and with his charisma it all sounds great when he says it. The basis of his argument is that taxation is immoral and that all economic transactions (and interaction in general) should be voluntary, and no amount of arguing could persuade him otherwise. It's so easy to fight back anyone when you only have one argument to make, and that the argument is 100% true under all circumstances. Basically parents should educate their kids to be responsible and moral, and society should in the end be a completely voluntary thing where everyone is responsible enough and smart enough to always make the right decision. His program is itself an ironic argument against what he's saying, because without laws there would be manipulation and lying at best, probably extortion and violence at worst, and he himself is lying and manipulating for economic gain. I like some of the stuff he's said, and he's certainly good at observing wrongdoings in society, like education and oppression, but his solutions and his one trick pony argument just fails as far as I can tell. |
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wMw i'm still concerned about the "der" issue. In a for loop a program will end if the file is "der" Much of thought is based on this notion. Once the object is in "the place there" the action is complete. Doing it is secondary to being there. For example the for loop can error out if the file previously existed. What happened to while. Is this the frustrated code? While we were there we did it. Or while we are there we may choose to do it. Seems it always do it until we are there. Some sort of creationism perhaps? However doing it does not = being there. Doing it over and over and it's still not there. No room for a non linear form of thought. Is this the work of the venture capitalist programmers? |
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I had to stop reading Straw Dogs. All I'm getting from it is that Gray is pessimistic and likes to muse about his pessimism. Did I mention the pessimistic musings? Also, did you know that people are animals? Remarkable! |
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yes. n she calls me creamcome |
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