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Im hearing some stuff by this guy and Im blown away!!! Does anyone know where I can find info about him? How many cds does he have and where can you get it? |
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Im listening to Prelude For Meditation off his album "In a landscape" Good stuff... |
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Well, I don't know much about this guy, except he wrote a song called 4'22" or something like that, and it is him sitting at the piano for 4 min and 22 seconds, not playing... you can call it art if you want, you can call it genius if you want, but i think there is a limit... this is just a little too much for me. j |
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That right there Joey....him sitting at the piano for 4:22 is absolute genius! See that's what we need more of in our world! Stuff that breaks what should be done. Notes that don't seem to go together at first glance. Staring at the keys. Its absolute genius art! :) |
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Im dead serious |
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What I gather from it is like...you hear your own music. Its your imagine at play instead of someone telling you what it is. Him sitting there serves as the canvas to your imagination. You have 4:22 to be as creative as you want. |
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imagination* |
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If you like his music you may also want to look into Stockausen and LaMonte Young. Young's 'Theater of Eternal Music' composition is one of the most beautiful and pertinent things I've ever heard. |
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can you get that on cd? |
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I have always cherished John Cage's writings and music. There is a link to a John Cage information source somewhere on one of my old websites. The address is www.angelfire.com/ny2/cwood; if you can find it more power to you. |
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First of all, it is 4.33 and, secondly it is not him sitting behind a piano, but someone else (the most famous performances were by David Tudor). Jihn Cage is a father of aleatoric or chance music, i.e., music where the composing (and performing, although Cage was not really fond of improvisation) process is determined by chance events. He was big on Zen, and that's where he got these ideas of liberating music from composer's dictatorship. Also, he is important in another way: he made people realise that every sound can be/ is music, i.e., that aesthetic opinions may not be absoulute but should depend on the context. It is frequently said that the influence Cage's had on modern music with his ideas is more important than his own compositions. |
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Oh, BTW, if Reflex reads this thread, he might like to know that Cage was gay too. |
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any reccomendations? I loved the John Cage pieces at the Squarepusher gig. |
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my interpretation is that you always hear silence but you never listen to it |
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'always hear silence' ... you know what i mean... |
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great pieces are his string quartets, absolutely amazing. also his pieces for prepared piano are very very good. i once had dinner with the man, he was thoroughly pissed (i kid you not... this was somewhere in the early ninetees, just before his death, and as a teenager i was quite bored sitting next to an old drunk man whilst having to eat disgusting macrobiotic food as dinner. hm.) |
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is a good report on the subject of cage's work, specifically 4'33. |
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he's cool |
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Whenever turntabilists get into the argument that their artform isn't really original music, they bring up Cage's point that 4 turntables with different records could be used to compose a new piece, entirely different to that which the original composer(s) intended. Even if you don't like his own music, I don't think you can deny the massive impact his music theory has had on modern music. |
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I agree. on his impact on modern music, I mean. |
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it's ok if you were agreeing with me. |
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hello. are you new on the board? |
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ermmm. maybe. |
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actually i was formed from the right rib of phobiazero. |
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cage strove to bring new ideas to the fore. break the rules + help music evolve. when you operate on the edge like that it is inevitable that your work will have an element of hit + miss. it will connect with some people and not with others. i don't enjoy everything i've heard by cage. some i like, some i dont - just like any other musician. but throughout i respect the ideas/philosophy behind what he was attempting. not because it's avant-garde (the shock of the new for the sake of it is of little long term value) but because it makes total sense. art shouldnt have strict rules because it confines creativity. thats what i personally appreciate about cage's work.. as well as really enjoying some of the pieces themselves. one failing that cage did have was that he wanted to distance the clebrity of the composer from the music itself. inevitably though, his unconventional approach to music made him notorious. incidentally - for fans of drukqs - cage first devised the prepared piano. this was talked about a lot at the time of the album's release.. oh, and the arp/sinfonietta show was excellent.. but i didnt think the cage piece was the best part of the evening by any means. |
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