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offline welt on 2010-12-26 15:09 [#02402412]
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90% of people think their intelligence is above average [so
i've read in a newspaper years ago]. given that this is true
at least 40% of people must be more stupid than they think.

does it bother you?
does ist make you feel that reality might brutally fall
short of your self-image?


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2010-12-26 15:12 [#02402416]
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i've thought about that quite often, that i might be even
more intelligent than i could imagine. its funny you should
mention that, im thinking about it again.


 

offline khrimson from the fridge on 2010-12-26 15:14 [#02402417]
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hurr durr


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2010-12-26 15:15 [#02402418]
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you are what your daddy eats


 

offline Steinvordhosbn from London (United Kingdom) on 2010-12-26 15:18 [#02402419]
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I think intelligent people are stupid, spending all that
time thinking when you could be womanising.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2010-12-26 15:21 [#02402420]
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i will be drinking what your dad eats


 

offline khrimson from the fridge on 2010-12-26 15:21 [#02402421]
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I tell them I'm retarded to even out the statistics


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2010-12-26 15:22 [#02402422]
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Dunning-Kruger effect

I love the Darwin, Bertie Russell and Yeats quotes in the
second paragraph.


 

offline nightex from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2010-12-26 15:23 [#02402423]
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no


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2010-12-26 15:25 [#02402425]
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I aim to have a realistic self image. I question my beliefs.
Are they helpful? Would they be helpful to other people? Do
they make me feel better? I try to avoid aggressive,
egocentric and dominant behaviour as well as self defeating,
overly altruistic and pessimistic behaviour and beliefs.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2010-12-26 15:25 [#02402426]
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kick ass! ive been looking for that!


 

offline nightex from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2010-12-26 15:27 [#02402427]
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no. There is a lot of passion and satisfaction in science.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2010-12-26 15:28 [#02402428]
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It's all in your crazy brains


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2010-12-26 15:28 [#02402429]
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im standing in water, to my knees.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2010-12-26 15:41 [#02402431]
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Indeed, Dunning et al. cite a study saying that 94% of
college professors rank their work as "above average"
(relative to their peers), to underscore that the highly
intelligent and informed are hardly exempt.


I'm not sure if there's a problem here. I mean it's hard to
quantify the quality of a college professor's work. It's a
matter of taste; of course a college professor will have a
preference for his way of work and his field of study, or
else he wouldn't be doing what he is doing. It would be the
same for artists or anyone with a little leeway in their
methods or what have you.


 

offline khrimson from the fridge on 2010-12-26 15:45 [#02402432]
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if you know how to do it you do it, if you don't you teach
about it


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2010-12-26 15:45 [#02402433]
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In a series of studies, they examined self-assessment of
logical reasoning skills, grammatical skills, and
humor.


I guess it's more about people overestimating how normative
they are or something.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2010-12-26 15:46 [#02402434]
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Dunning-Kruger also tested the humoristic skills of said
individuals. How do you rate or meseaure humor or humoristic
competence? Maybe Dunning and Kruger suffer from the Dunning
and Kruger effect themselves?


 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2010-12-26 16:26 [#02402438]
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this is abstract, people care about small things , theres no
hope common.
its broke the mirror , and thats bad luck. Now more than
ever we must be unite.
No difference between stupid and intelligence.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2010-12-26 16:37 [#02402440]
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I guess you'd have to see what questions they asked. I'm
assuming they weren't asking physics profs to evaluate
themselves against art history guys.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2010-12-26 16:39 [#02402441]
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You weight the audience before and after the humor to see if
they have outgassed laugh-particles.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2010-12-26 16:48 [#02402442]
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I know but they can still differ by methods, approaches or
specific tastes inside the field, and it's hard to determine
if one is actually superior to another.

But I'd like to see the questions yeah, because the humor
thing is weird as hell. I agree with the hypothesis but
their tests don't seem all that relevant, why didn't they
use more easily quantifiable tasks?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2010-12-26 17:03 [#02402446]
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But the important thing is that they viewed themselves as
better irrespective of any questions of establishing
"objective" value. They didn't say well, we're all important
in the great scheme of things, or that the more they learned
the more foolish they felt. They were cocks.

Anyhow socio-cultural-psychological stuff like this feels
more like literature than science to me anyways, which is
not to say that it's less valuable, it just needs to be
approached on a less reductionist level of abstraction.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2010-12-26 17:16 [#02402450]
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I guess my point is that in this case they're not wrong to
think their way is better, because they work on something
that to them is more important. You can't exactly infer from
the results that they aren't also critical of themselves.
It's not really the same thing as this one, which is
awesome.

Pronin and her co-authors explained to subjects the
better-than-average effect, the halo effect, self-serving
bias and many other cognitive biases. According to the
better-than-average bias, specifically, people are likely to
see themselves as inaccurately "better than average" for
possible positive traits and "less than average" for
negative traits. When subsequently asked how biased they
themselves were, subjects rated themselves as being much
less subject to the biases described than the average
person.



 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2010-12-26 17:19 [#02402451]
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but yeah thinking their work is more important is
self-serving bias etc but whatevs


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2010-12-26 17:38 [#02402458]
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No.
I know that i am more intelligent than certain people, and
less intelligent than certain other people.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2010-12-26 17:45 [#02402459]
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i could've told you that


 


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