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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2010-12-19 10:00 [#02401728]
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Well I saw it tonight, in IMAX 3d, and well?.....
well, its FUN
I use the word "fun" very loosely....Great moments of 3D (the bikes) but other than that, you will probably walk out with the feel of "whatever". Nothing groundbreaking yet visually very fun at times.
Suggestion: Smoke a nice spliff before going, it makes it more tolerable.
Funny thing is, I kept picturing "The Dude" whenever Bridges had lines...too funny.
cheers!
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2010-12-19 10:25 [#02401730]
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thanks for the review, lung. did the soundstrack add some value?
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2010-12-19 10:39 [#02401731]
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I'm going to see it later. Not expecting much.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2010-12-19 11:04 [#02401732]
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Daft Punk did not break any new ground, that's for sure
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2010-12-19 13:57 [#02401741]
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how can you expect something groundbreaking about a remake ? doesn't make any sense.
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taking_the_piz
on 2010-12-19 14:34 [#02401743]
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remake? you mean SEQUEL
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2010-12-19 15:31 [#02401748]
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is it ? my bad then i was convinced it's a remake.
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2010-12-19 16:22 [#02401751]
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alright, so, which one's better? the new harry potter, or this one?
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diamondtron
on 2010-12-19 17:45 [#02401764]
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the expendables
if only JCVD and Segal were in it too....
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2010-12-19 17:52 [#02401765]
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Bad reports about this film allover..is it worse than avatar?
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2010-12-19 18:28 [#02401772]
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I liked Avatar you C*nt.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2010-12-19 19:25 [#02401778]
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it c*nt be worse than avatar. surely!
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2010-12-19 23:31 [#02401810]
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I went to see Monsters instead. I really enjoyed it! A nice little love story.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2010-12-19 23:51 [#02401812]
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LAZY_MONSTERS looks cool also
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yoyoyoyoyo
from Sweden on 2010-12-20 17:08 [#02401875]
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leg acy
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2010-12-20 18:04 [#02401885]
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good lord did this suck. maybe if you went in without knowledge of the first movie it would have been entertaining, but all i saw were mountains of missed opportunities.
fans of the original remember the computer world of tron where everything was made of LIGHT. green glowing boxes floated around with nary a worry to physics.
in tron legacy, it's all just a bunch of shit with el-wire on it. the ships had ENGINES which you could see moving the AIR around then. WTF? this is TRON. why is there air?? the whole point is it's a world inside a computer, things like physics mean nothing.
and they skipped pretty much all the synesthetic aspects of the original. remember in the original how they would walk through black nothingness except with each step their shoes lit up another floor piece, which was accompanied by a pleasing BLEEP? none of that here. everything in this world is just made of stone with glowy lights. this is not TRON.
not to mention that they skipped out on things like the glow emanating from each character implying something about their mood (glowing brightly when they're mad, dimmer when drained) or having any kind of awesome non-corporeal villain like the MCP. and the transition of entering the tron world went from a 3 minute psychedelic wormhole geekfest to not 3 seconds of pixelization.
which brings me to another point: there were a few points in the movie where the effects did make me go "wow!" unfortunately, these effects were so glossed over that they hardly made an impact. in a movie which is supposed to be a special fx feat, you spend about half the time staring at a bunch of stupid giant heads (this seems to be an obnoxious trend in 3d movies altogether - why directors love you being able to see every pore in the actor's face is beyond me).
what the original TRON to me is a masterpiece of moving imagery - every scene is designed to be looked at, adored - each frame is a work of art. Tron: legacy is a travesty of fx masturbation without taking any useful cues from the br
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2010-12-20 18:06 [#02401886]
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brilliant original.
and ps i was on lsd and smoked hella bowls before going in, and it still didn't look all that cool. impressively realistic, sure, but not pleasing to the eye. avatar did a whole lot better in terms of eye candy.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2010-12-20 18:11 [#02401889]
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that's a helpful review, i didn't even see the first original so maybe i might just rent that instead
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2010-12-20 18:51 [#02401904]
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I haven't seen the new one, but... from what I have seen, the original is much stronger with regard to stylistic intention. I was kind of disappointed that the new one looks the way it does, because it just seems like any other CGI film.
However, the explanation for the graphics is that they're based on advancements in computer technology-- i.e. 80's graphics look from 80's computers, and 10's graphics look from the 10's computers. This is actually a flaw in thinking, though, because TRON IS NOT REAL. They missed that Tron was STYLIZATION and not some graphical demonstration of an era, per se. I thought pushing the limit with retro-future CGI would've been awesome. But hopefully the story or some other thing will make me not sad about it.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2010-12-21 01:06 [#02401924]
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very good review
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Sano
on 2010-12-21 08:41 [#02401940]
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Have you guys seen the official Daft Punk clip? I find the style used in the clip much better than what they went with in the movie.
TRON music video
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2010-12-21 09:21 [#02401941]
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AGREED!!!!!!
good lord, why couldn't the whole movie have looked like that? makes me sad.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2010-12-26 07:47 [#02402349]
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good review indeed. i'll go to see Machete instead
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2010-12-27 12:48 [#02402501]
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Legacy's upgrade only amplifies the lameness of the original minus its time - capsule likeability.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2010-12-28 17:33 [#02402583]
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the 3D experience was awful. all that flickering shit buzzing in and out of the screen... i hated all of that shit. because of tron legacy, avatar and clash of the titans i am hesitant to see a 3D movie ever again.
the overall mood of the new envisioned Tron world was pleasurable, but there were no details, no real distinct memorable "style" like the original. nothing shows the disconnection between the old movie and the new movie than the fucking re-imagining of the solar sailer device/ship, which is just the same thing as the one in the 1982 film, but in the 2010 film it's blue, black and neon.
and i'm not saying the 2 films even needed to have the same art style, or scope. a well-written book would have been fine. it's just obvious that those attached to the new film are suffering from Lucas Syndrome. I should not have to explain what "lucas syndrome" is . watch star wars ep. 1-3
i liked jeff bridges. he was good. all the other actors = forgettable. phoned in performances. whatever. hope you had fun on the set. i'm glad you got paid. whatever. let's assume the original never existed. tron: legacy would still be really bad, even without comparing.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2010-12-29 05:31 [#02402645]
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what about the soundtrack ? as much as i don't want to see T:L again (ok, maybe once again just for The Dude himself) i've listened to the ost several times already. well done, daft punks.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-12-30 05:30 [#02402719]
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I can't really criticize your guy's opinions as I haven't seen it. However, I am curious what you were expecting when you went to it in the first place.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2010-12-30 05:43 [#02402726]
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honestly, i was hoping for the above music video, but 3d. something that actually took into account the awesome art direction of the first film, not that over saturated poopshow.
ps the daft punk soundtrack is enjoyable on its own, but just like everything else, was executed poorly in the film. the musical cues made no sense at all.
the whole thing just lacked any sense of pacing. as one review i read said, there is the same level of intensity in the film during the talking head scenes as during the fight sequences.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2010-12-30 23:46 [#02402783]
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soundtrack was by daft punk. if you like daft punk you'll love the soundtrack. thats all i have to say about that
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2010-12-31 00:06 [#02402784]
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/[ I am curious what you were expecting when you went to it in the first place. ]/
a half decent spinoff
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obara
from Utrecht on 2010-12-31 05:22 [#02402804]
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thansk
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2010-12-31 10:59 [#02402826]
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its a pretty film stories a bit thin there is two fit birds one blonde one dark haired
i bought the soundtrack its very anthemic and orchestra i love it
its better than the film
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obara
from Utrecht on 2012-09-23 14:35 [#02441585]
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it took me 3 light cycles (3 viewings, actually) to start enjoying the film (visuals+story) - only because I got it in a 2dvd edition box together with the prequel. not that great, but just OK. I guess if it wasn't for Bridges and his lines I wouldn't be that eager to watch from time to time.
today I bought me the OST on CD and heard it on train going through mountain scenery in sunshine. awesome.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2012-09-23 15:06 [#02441586]
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Yah, it took me a couple/few times to really get into it, as well. Before watching it, I was kind of sad of the drastic change of stylization, but it's apparent that they worked all the shit out cuz it does totally work. The OST is great, but I've only heard it from the film. I just watch the film on loop and pretend I'm listening to an album.
Visuals, narrative, conceptually- just all around preeetty solid film.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2012-09-23 15:09 [#02441587]
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Haha, I actually wrote in this thread, back in the day...
The thing about the physics, is-- The whole TRON world is consciousness projected in the context of a computer world. So the characters and everything are not really there, but the world we're shown is how it's perceived by the humans (due to using analogous understanding from Earth).
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2012-09-23 15:12 [#02441588]
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This idea is alluded to in the intro, where Bridges is talking about how he imagined what the grid would look like.
The deeper aspects of the film are related to consciousness itself, and how "our world" is actually the same as TRON-- senses and thought trying to make sense out of abstract data.
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