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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2010-11-13 14:34 [#02398236]
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listening to music and working with photoshop for years made me came up with this theories. i'll have to put these as a stories cos it's a combination of stories i heard coming in some way or another.
so you have a pic, and you work out that pic color for some time. if you take a break from the work, you go elsewhere smoking a cig for example, and you go back to the pic, you'll never, ever see that pic the way you left it.
the same thing happens with music if you happen to make some, and perhaps that might be one of the reasons why we listen to the same tracks over and over.
there must be written in all books about color that if try to replicate a certain color, it will never look the same. i can't remember, but i feel i can talk cos my father has been one who paints walls. and cos if you are put under lamps of thousands of watts, the very same picture does not look the same.
my boss the other day told me, "in the 70s, my teacher told me that happens because color has no memory" and i told him 'it's like musical memory, it just involves another sense'.
it's totally upon ones perception therefore you just like it, or you don't.
word plays about chromatic scale being a musical term come only in a second time, when nothing really matters anymore.
it becomes way more tricky in italian language, where 'feel' translates to 'sentire', literally 'hear' so
non è quello che vedi, è quello che senti che ricordi
is not what you see, it's what you hear that you remember
peace
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2010-11-13 14:44 [#02398238]
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so?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2010-11-13 14:44 [#02398239]
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so what?
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2010-11-13 14:53 [#02398243]
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maybe it's just that italian is your first language (i'm assuming, didn't realize before) but it's just really really really hard to follow your arguments.
i'm guessing what you're getting at is that there is no concrete color or music, only the way we perceive it, in which case you're right and further you can expand that to every sense. the hamburger you're eating will only taste exactly like it does to you at that very moment - no other being in history will be able to experience the exact same phenomena as you just did.
...am i along the right lines here?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2010-11-13 14:56 [#02398245]
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exactly
im not sure about the hamburger implication. im well sure when i talk about color and music.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2010-11-13 15:16 [#02398248]
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i feel like taste, and to an even further extent smell, are even more variable person to person, event to event than sound or color.
the crazy mind-blowing thing is that our brains can actually manage to find the similarities within all the gibberish and gobbledygook. insanely complex pattern recognizers we are.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2010-11-13 15:23 [#02398249]
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insanely complex for realtively simple stuff i might add
have you ever noticed how lack of some sense reflects on a person way to be, in a way more colorful way that we imagine. for example: a person that lack touch will treat with people like an elephant, a person that lacks hearing will be less inclined to listen (by labial of course) ect
amazing
haha
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