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I just listened to the first disc and have come to the conclusion that it's not worth the time listening to the rest. It's just that it sounds like a kid with novice composing skills messed around and composed a junior music piece, not a bona fide opera that Glass purports it to be. This is music now a days. I don't think high art exists anymore. I listened to a 'small' opera earlier by Purcell, Dido and Aeneas, and Einstein doesn't even come close to approaching it in quality. You'd think that with a 300 year spread people would be composing even better awe inspiring music. Will we be driving gas/petroleum fueled vehicles 300 years from now? Eh, probably... |
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It's not that it just doesn't equal or excel in comparison to older 'classical' works, but that it just fucking sucks guys. I mean, it really, really does. |
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One work by one semi-pop composer is not enough to draw conclusions on contemporary music or high art. If you want to listen to Serious Music by Serious Composer and compare them to Past Masters, at least learn a little about them. I'm pretty sure Philip Glass gets no respect whatsoever in academic circles. |
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The music is nice, but the words are very annoying. |
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you suck! Some tracks are a bit annoying, but some are simply beautiful. |
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Do you honestly really think that everything constantly gets better in time? Pretty naive, brah. Dido and Aeneas is great, but music from back then was in a different chamber though. Popular and high art crossover sometime last century, check it out. Glass does get no respect in academic circles, but don't let that put you off. Here's a great composition by Tristan Murail, great living composer. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRuxHVWfQtA |
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it would be wise to consider -that- -having- your ships and ours -your- aircraft and ours in -such- proximity is inherently -dangerous-, mr. ambassador |
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Einstein on the Beach has a wonderful last act / finale, so you shouldn't stop midway, although if you didn't like it this far, I guess there's no point in forcing your way through. It takes a different approach to listen to Philip Glass rather than traditional opera. The emphasis is on minimal change and repetition (obviously). It has no dramatic development to speak of. Einstein on the Beach was a very innovative piece when it premiered in 1975. It takes a particular approach to listen to it, with tiny changes taking place over long stretches of time. Try counting the rhythms to discover hidden textures in the music. To understand it, you have to understand the influence of traditional Indian music on Glass during those years, especially via his affiliation with Ravi Shankar. Glass combined tonal and rhythmic patterns in a new way, although he was not the first (or the most innovative) of the American minimalists. Nonetheless, I think his pieces from the early and mid-1970's (including especially Music in 12 Parts and Einstein on the Beach) are well worth listening to, since they contain the essence of his style. (On the side, you should listen to some Terry Riley, La Monte Young, Steve Reich and John Adams.) |
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Correction: it premiered in 1976 and not '75. |
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I found a documentary about it, pretty cool: |
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Per haps, Robert Ashley might better suit your tastes. AGREED. |
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I'm not gonna say if I like it or not. |
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I wasn't saying anything about the quality of Glass's music, honestly. I'm not one to think that serious academic music is better, it's kind of a repugnant idea. I thought Mr Brazil's argument was very weird, it's like saying Oh, how did we go from great painters such as Michelangelo to trash like Milton Glaser or The Designers Republic? The art world's gone to hell. |
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get |
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didn't mean to single that comment about academic circles out. you're right about his argument. To be honest though, I don't really listen to Reich, Adams or Glass anymore. |
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fuckk |
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