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offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 09:32 [#00161966]
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Did any of you Brits see the documentary on Factory Records
on C4 last night? Shaun Rhyder is so fucked now.


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 10:08 [#00161987]
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mornin all-i didnt-but he's always been fucked. ever since
he gave up the skag and the crack. see? hard hard drugs aint
so bad. full of vitamins and minerals and sweetex and
ratpoison and anything else thats powdery and white.

ps, is that sinbad from brookie having a 'tete a tete' with
harold bishop? C.O.O.L.!!


 

offline wizards teeth from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 10:11 [#00161988]
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It looked like he had mild form of parkinsons.



 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 10:12 [#00161989]
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Ken: nah man, he was soooo fucked. Way more fucked than I've
ever seen him before. His face and neck were really puffed
up. He was talking like Ali too.

The pic was actually Lou and Harold. I'm surprised you could
make it out.


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 10:17 [#00161994]
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superior vision due to carrot juice..

man thats a shame. ever since he got way into the spliffs,
guiness, hargan daas and body building supplements (no joke)
. i know he looked a bit stoned on the old 'step on' and
'kinky afro' vids and stuff, but now its ike lookin at two
diff people. how old is he now? 40 ish? looks a lot
older.....as well as larger.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 10:23 [#00161997]
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He was taking body building supplements? What the hell for?


I've seen him before and he could be quite sharp, but last
night he was gone.


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 10:31 [#00162004]
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true story-i read an interview with him in Q or select bout'
ten years ago or when ever the first black grape album came
out-he was sat in a curry house with a huge balti in front
of him and several pints of guiness-he was saying that he
had got really into haagan daas when coming off the crack
and had started taking body buiding supplement because he'd
weanted to get in shape-he assumed that by taking it he'd
get fit-didnt realise you had to exercise at the sam time.
true story. there was a photo of him sat on the toilet in a
cubicle smoking a huge spliff with a pint of guiness in his
hand. he looked all chubby, like moley from 'wind in the
willows'.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 10:34 [#00162007]
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He looks fucking awful. I can't believe he forgot the
exercise part of the equation.

I saw him on Jo Whiley's crap TV show a few years ago. He
was on about how he and a mate climbed on the roof of a
venue that Kate Bush was playing and saw her go outside for
a fag. He said she smoke about "ten fags in a row the
fuckin' pig. Put me right off her".


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 10:37 [#00162008]
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he's great shaun ryder. apparently he plays his dad in the
'24 hr party people' film.

i saw an old happy monday photo of him sat on a stage (again
smoking a huge joint) with bez-and in the background was his
dad, ravin' with a huge viking helmet on-ripped to his tits.
absolutely fucking textbook.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 10:41 [#00162010]
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Those people seem untouchable. People like Keith Richards
and Rhyder who do so many drugs and seem to scrape through
ok. Though judging by last night Rhyder might be another
casualty.

Bez sounded so thick: "Errrr, what's that word? Yeah
stalking. We was stalking Factory Records"


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 11:05 [#00162045]
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haha!! what ever happened to ryders 'acting' career??? and
didnt bez do a bit of porridge for sellin e's after the
mondays split??? i also remember a story bout shaun being
kicked out by his missus for because he kept breaking her
hoover for a laugh...



 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 11:14 [#00162053]
Points: 6650 Status: Lurker



Didn't he try to kill her too?


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 11:15 [#00162055]
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nah-you're thinking of james brown...


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 11:17 [#00162059]
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I may be getting mixed up. Ozzy tried it too.

He was married to Donovan's daughter right?


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 11:23 [#00162064]
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yeah-that rings a bell. i remember reading once as well that
he phoned up tony wilson when the mondays were in jamaicai
recording 'yes please' saying that he had the master tapes
and he was going to destroy them if wilson didnt forward
some money for crack'....i hope he doesnt just fade into
oblivion..maybe after the disaster that was 'stupid stupid
stupid' hell return eh?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 11:29 [#00162073]
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Yeah they got £50 for the tapes which had no vocal tracks
on ha,ha.


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 11:52 [#00162103]
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50 quid? was that all wilson sent them? i still quite like
'yes please'-its a good album.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 11:55 [#00162110]
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I've only gor Thrills, Pills and Bellyaches.

Black Grape's first record was cool.


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 12:59 [#00162232]
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theres quite a good interview with tony wilson in this weeks
big issue-good review of the film as well, although it does
mention that steve coogan does a bit of an alan patridge
when being wilson-suprise suprise. also shows ian curtis
hanging himself as well. mmmnnn.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 13:04 [#00162243]
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Steve Coogan, good as he is, is a bit of a one trick pony.
He always seems to slip into the man Partridge.


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 13:08 [#00162252]
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true true. he did a series a while back didnt he? forget
what it was called -had six difference characters...coogans
run?

i liked partridge on 'on the hour' radio show, he had more
of a nervous paranoid side-still cockey but you could
imagine him going home and just crying all night.


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-08 13:39 [#00162308]
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The best Happy Mondays record is without doubt "24 Hour
Party People....". It was produced by former Velvet
Undergrounder, John Cale... I luv it!


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 13:45 [#00162316]
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lazyitis off bummed. thats the one i have found memories of.
and the first track off side two of pills n thrills...forget
what its called...


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-08 15:05 [#00162488]
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Did they cover any Durutti Column in this Factorymentary?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-08 15:10 [#00162494]
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No, no Durritti Column.


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 15:16 [#00162502]
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theres a certain ratio comp of old rarities been
re-released....mmmnnnn


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-08 15:50 [#00162559]
Points: 3388 Status: Regular | Followup to jonesy: #00162494



Thats a SHAME! The Durutties were one of the truly GREAT
bands on Factory! They were postrockin' even long before the
stupid term "postrock" was invented...


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 15:55 [#00162565]
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erm...joy division?? they were the trully great bands on
factory thankyou very much.


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 15:55 [#00162567]
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i meant 'band' damn these busy fingers of mine...


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-08 16:40 [#00162638]
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Sure, I love Joy Division, but I feel that Durutti Column is
one of the more underrated bands on Factory! They have had a
much more important influence on current "independent" music
than many, many other bands an should at least be given some
of the credit for this. Hell, I only discovered the
Durutties a few years ago and I was shocked at how I could
have missed out on a band with so much influence on the
music I listened to then and still listen to today.


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 16:43 [#00162643]
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oh, alright then. for a minute there i thought youd
overlooked the division! :)


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-08 16:45 [#00162647]
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DC ... thats Vini Rilly isn't it?...he's is one brilliant
guitarist and songwriter...

Pity he's not better know... probably most famous for that
album he did with Morrissey...


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-04-08 17:29 [#00162678]
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Yeah, thats him! I did not like that album he did with
Morrisey, tho...

His guitar is divine! Have you heard how I don't think Disco
Inferno (Che Records, Rough Trade Records) would have their
brilliant guitar-sound if it wasnt for Vinni...




 


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