 |
|
You are not logged in! F.A.Q Log in Register |
 |
|
 |
 Now online (1)belb ...and 202 guests Last 5 registered Oplandisks nothingstar N_loop yipe foxtrotromeo Browse members... |
 |
Members 8025Messages 2613463 Today 1 Topics 127501 |
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I must now talk with you about something that bothered me deeply, the Us invasion of Iraq in 2003. Maybe you recall all these peace protests around the world, at that time, and the rainbow pace flags that became popular. I was also deeply convinced that this war was wrong. But not anymore. It really bothers me that when Saddam shot missiles to Israel no one was actually protesting.No one was protesting to support the liberals in Iraq either.And no one paid attention to the fascist Ideology of Saddams Bath party.It is probably true, Iraq was invaded because of the oil.Democracy wasn't much of a concern for the neocons. But it was Bush and not the liberals who brought up the issue of womens rights in Iraq. I now believe the Iraq war was justified, it was the right thing done for wrong reasons. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
So it's "probably true" that Iraq was invaded for oil and you still believe it was justified. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
|
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
so why then are North Korea denouncing the attack, was it foul play within their own ranks? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Dunno.. Maybe their Chinese overlords told them to keep their mouths shut? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I bet the Chinese had some involvement in the attack actually. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Those damn sanctions on iran make beijing angry plus the russians double crossed them |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Sure. I don't care about the oil, or the wmd's, i am only motivated by ideological reasons. There is something worse than capitalism and bourgeois society: its barbarous abolition. And that is what Germany stands for, that is what national socialism and fascism stand for, that is also what panarabic-nationalist ideas and islamist ideas stand for today. These ideologies stand for an anti-capitalism full of resentments, which does not want to abolish the misery caused by the capital, but rather wants to re-organize it in a national-collective. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
did you read christopher hitchens' new book? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
No, but i read Paul Bermans book 'Terror and liberalism' |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
So what are you saying? They went in for the wrong reasons (oil) but the end result will be democracy, therefore you agree? Perhaps the Iraqis don't want democracy - perhaps they want to be led. If they wanted democracy there would have been revolution. The government is born out of the people, not the other way around. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
The end results could be a stable democracy, if you look at the last elections, the chances aren't bad.These people won't just rise up and establish a democracy, they were probably too poor or to afraid to rebell against Saddam. And most of all, they aren't used to a democratic culture like we are in the western world. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
|
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Yeah, so what? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Well if that's your attitude... |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Posting a link to an article without an additional comment is a bit lame. What are you trying to tell me? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I look at like if through some oversight I'd enrolled at the Technische Universität Berlin and whilst I lay in my dormitory bed trying to wank away the nightmare I heard bellowing through the wall some humourless troll attempting to be provocative about "the invasion of Iraq 2003" and I got up and walked past their door with my cock out, making sure they saw, before catching a plane to Jeddah. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
So, because i don't share your opinion i am being provocative?Whatever |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Talk the Belgian Buns, Hans. I guess when it comes to Geopolitik, like our respective views on the recreational use of cough mixture or the fucking of one's own mother, we'll have to once again agree to disagree. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Geopolitics is an outdated term, do you know this? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Stop talking to me, you make me feel weird. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Did you know cyberwar is a loaded term? Usually bantered about by the u.s gov. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Seriously, what are you trying to say with that article?You must be a bit more precise because i can not read your mind. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Richard Armitage Life after public service: There was some media speculation that President Bush would appoint him to a key security position such as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Director of National Intelligence or Defense Secretary. As of the start of July 2007, Armitage had not re-entered public service. On May 10, 2006, he was elected to the board of directors of the ConocoPhillips oil company. In October 2006, Armitage lobbied – on behalf of the L-3 Communications Corporation, a company providing intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance products – some key people in Taiwanese political circles regarding the possible sale of P-3C marine patrol aircraft to the ROC military. Those who received his personal letter included Premier Su Tseng-chang, President of the Legislative Yuan Wang Jin-pyng, and opposition People First Party leader James Soong. Armitage stated in the letter that he wished the Taiwan government would reconsider the purchase from Lockheed Martin, the dealer the United States government had designated. Instead, he hoped that the right to negotiate the purchase should be made through an open and fair bidding process.[8] The letter was made public by PFP Legislators on October 24, 2006 in a Legislative Yuan session discussing the military purchases.[9] |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Mitch McConnell In August 2007 McConnell introduced the Protect America Act of 2007, which allowed the National Security Agency to monitor telephone and electronic communications of suspected terrorists inside and outside the United States without obtaining a warrant. McConnell remains one of the strongest supporters of the Iraq War, which he considers a central part of the War on Terrorism. He holds the view that the violence in Iraq is perpetrated primarily by al-Qaeda and other international jihadists who would otherwise be engaged in terrorist actions within the United States. In an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper on January 10, 2007 (after President Bush's announcement of an escalation in troop levels in Iraq), McConnell claimed that the war in Iraq was a success because it had prevented terrorist attacks in the U.S. since the September 11 attacks. He warned that if the United States withdrew from Iraq, "the terrorists would come after us where we live." |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
as if you lot can do international politics. but try all you like |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
|
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i remember at the time , many missles BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG X 100000 ...through the plane infra red cameras ,thinking....WTF?... AND if i hear the words "weapons of mass destruction" one more time i'll get on a cargo plane and ram the white hose!! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
that would be at 3am after i induce a fire alarm of course! b******s hit the twin towers when everyone was in there.during the day . ...now that really did suck ***t pure polluted evil doings |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I respectfully disagree, the Taliban show the effectiveness of guerrilla warfare. You can quite clearly see how, with all the will in the world, a tin pot army that recruits any old loser can withold the might of the US and all its allies armed only with land mines, AK47s and a mastery of their own landscape. Undoubtedly a majority of Iraqi's want peace, but it's a bit simplistic to imagine they would achieve it with or without Saddam, the country has always been unstable and riddled with factionalism and probably always will be. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Just go a facebook friend request from Hope Graham who's a member of NewLife Church in Florida... & her wall states that she has her T-shirt and & panties on. Now I'm paranoid maybe i should shut up ;) |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
which new book, and why'd u ask? I have the god is not great book |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hitch-22-Memoir-Christopher-Hitchen s/dp/1843549212/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274858431&s r=8-1 Because he is a left wing marxist in favour of the Iraq War and he has persuaded many lefty children to change their minds. Apparently one lefty kid joined the army because of Hitchens and ended up getting killed in Iraq |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I am sorry, but the last elections in Iraq were clearly lost by those parties that supported al-qaida and Iran. If the shite mayority stays stable, after the americans are gone, the iraqi democracy will act as an model for Iran. The influence of the clerical fascist sunnite parties is also crumbling. Those who said democracy isn't possible in Iraq were after Kuwait, Jordan and Pakistan once again wrong, with their analysis. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Have you actually been to "Iraq"? I flew over where it supposedly is in an unmarked helicopter, and it was just flat land. All your media is controlled. You are in a cage, being fed pellets of food and info, to comfort you into thinking that there exists others than yourself. But you are wrong. It is all in your head. And you are tripping so hard right now, that you've forgotten that you're tripping so hard right now. AWAKEN, and be Free. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
dude. that is some hardcore dis-info. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
"dude. that is some hardcore dis-info." ...Says the illusion to the illusion. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
|
Messageboard index
|
|||||||||
