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please say some music nerd thing that will inspire me to program a nerd thing instead of hitting f5 on reddit |
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lol. i've been picking up on SuperCollider couple of days ago and out of frustration (the learning curve feels like a wall) i do refresh boring sites too instead of doing the tutorials properly :B do you know genetic algorithms? fun can be had with them. there's other good stuff on his site too. or have you ever thought about setting up some sort of live networked music colab thingie via internet? i'd like to try that. |
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Szenks you! I went and downloaded the Nick Collins tutorial which seems to be pretty good. How do you envision collab online? OSC? |
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ah yeah the Nick Collins tut is also the one i'm doing. i find it a bit hard to get into SC syntax.. and well this whole signal-based programming itself is a bit unusual to me, but yeah it has to be worth it, i'm just feeling lazy. real realtime is not quite possible apparently, but if the peers are seen as autonomous environments which are just interlinked in certain ways it could work splendidly, i.e. not desperately trying to sync the same music to all peers, but rather, say.. in a house with rooms metaphor.. if you're in a room and i'm next door… and you switch off your light for example, the fridge door in my room opens… if i then take a beer out of the fridge, Mr.Bean climbs through your window… right? and by Mr Bean i mean excellent electronic music. i.e.. there could be a shared pool of musical elements which are limited in quantity, or energy or something… so if you use all the bass drum elements, there wouldn't be any left for me… and i'd have to do something which affects your composition to get them back into the pool… etc. etc… blah so yeah in short, i think OSC would be decent for that. One could also use network lag as musical element etc.. |
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quantum streaming soon to arrive in your universe |
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phuk u |
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I love the idea of music as a zero sum game - the tragedy of the audio commons. Would you have a database server in between the players, and lock elements when they're checked out? |
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heh, haven't even thought about that zero sum aspect.. was really just typing out a vague idea… yeh for that it would probably need some sort of server, to keep track of peers at least, though i'm totally unexperienced with that sort of thing. This can get so complex very quickly.. If you like we could try and cobble something together that just works 1 on 1 for starters, i.e. just ping each other via OSC…(i'm not sure if i can even port-forward through my router here). And then see where we can get from there.. |
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there's a lot of brain here |
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I figure the easiest thing is to have 2 people with the same patch on both ends, and a change on my control causes the same change on your control... is that what you mean by one on one? I did a bunch of the Nick Collins tuts and they're great, not too dumb or smart, nice balance of theory and getting hands dirty. It helps that in SC the documentation is executable. Have you built anything with OSC yet? I have some experience with Reaktor OSC but not in SC. [zombie vlari has ate your brain] |
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[the Hill doubts vlarz' hunger is stilled by this meager piece of butter] i'm out and about now, will be back home on Friday or so.. gonna drop you a mail! |
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