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offline wizards teeth from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 14:27 [#00156280]
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who would like to join in with me.

purchase one loaf of bread on a friday night and make some
sandwiches using cheap cheese

on saturday if you are going into town take the sandwiches
in a back pack or other bag with you

every time you pass a homeless person give him a sandwich

calculations

number of slices in loaf = 40

sandwiches per loaf = 20

members on board = 672

sandwiches per week = 13440

homeless people fed per
year = 698,880


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-03 14:33 [#00156289]
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Not wanting to sound cynical, but most homeless people in my
area would prefer a beer or scotch. And they're mostly
homeless because they're:

a) insane, so they keep running from the institutions that
try to help'em (I know, I know, but they at least feed them
there)

b) lazy and don't want to work (which is fine by me but I
don't feel obliged to feed them)

Anyway, yours is a noble idea and there ARE people who would
be thankful for such a help.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-03 14:38 [#00156296]
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Fuck 'em. They should get a job like the rest of us rather
than basking in the sun with a bottle of cold beer all day.


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-04-03 14:40 [#00156299]
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I am not gonna touch this topic with a ten foot pole....

(thinks its too touchy) knowing how everyone is VERY touchy
here...=)


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-03 14:41 [#00156300]
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seems that we're not that compassionate after all. Good. I
hate happy endings


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-04-03 14:41 [#00156301]
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you had me going for a minute jonesy, til i saw it was you
who posted it.

*CLINK CLINK*


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-04-03 14:42 [#00156303]
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A loaf of bread only has like 20 slices of bread in it...


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-04-03 14:43 [#00156306]
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that's nice


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-03 14:44 [#00156307]
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I admit my views on the homeless are unorthodox for a
Marxist but they give the working class a bad name.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-03 14:46 [#00156309]
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homeless don't even belong to working class as they reject
to work. Which is again fine, but why should we feed them.

But there are sick, unfortunate people who only need some
help and WT's idea, if a bit naive is noble at heart.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-04-03 14:48 [#00156312]
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tsk tsk - why would a homeless person have to come from the
working classes?


 

offline Chris Ochre on 2002-04-03 14:48 [#00156313]
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I'd imagine it would be very difficult to get back into
work, as you'll need a bank account to get a job, and a job
to get a bank account. Should make the fucking effort
though...

A lot of homeless people I see do seem very mentally
unstable - I often wonder if they are deliberately trying to
look totally fucked up. I work at a bar 4 nights a week
(www.buffalojoes.co.uk - lol) and see tons of homeless
people on my way there. Every one of them will ask for
money, and I'll politely apologise for not giving any to
them any. Sometimes, after saying 'sorry' (why should I be
apologising?) to 6 or so homeless people, I just shake my
head at any more. After doing this to one guy he gets mad
at me, swearing at me etc, so I think 'what the fuck is
this? Fuck you? Why should I feel obliged to give you money?
Why are you making me feel guilty?' Makes me sooo fucking
angry.

I should say '20p isn't going change your fucking life,
mate. Only you can.' But instead I walk on, grumbling
angrily to myself....


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-03 14:49 [#00156315]
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Well maybe not the working class. The lumpen proletariat
then. How about them?


 

offline Chris Ochre on 2002-04-03 14:50 [#00156317]
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"...I'll politely apologise for not giving any to
them any."

Hahaha.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-03 14:52 [#00156319]
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I was waiting outside Nottingham train station for some
others to arrive and was giving leaflets about a demo
against the war in London. This guy selling the Big Issue
came up and started moaning that I was distracting people
from buying his magazine. What a cunt!

I told him in no uncertain terms to remove himself from my
vicinity as he was a scar on the face of my country.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-03 14:54 [#00156321]
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Nietzsche said something like "Beggars should not exist at
all: if you give them something you feel guilty, if you
don't again you feel guilty"

But most homeless people I know actually made a choice to
live that way. Not all, but most. It is another thing that
most of them don't have what we'd call "right mind" but
choice is choice to me. I respect free will of people we
deem insane.


 

offline Chris Ochre on 2002-04-03 15:01 [#00156327]
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I told him in no uncertain terms to remove himself from my
vicinity as he was a scar on the face of my country."

Lol. I always think of great responses, then bottle out and
say 'Sorry mate, I've got no change.'

"Beggars should not exist at
all: if you give them something you feel guilty, if you
don't again you feel guilty" - Damn right. You can't win,
you just feel harassed walking down the street.

"I respect free will of people we
deem insane." Same here, until they bug me for money and
then insult me when I decline.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-03 15:02 [#00156328]
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There are loads of homeless people in Nottingham. you can't
walk five yards without being asked for change. I sometimes
give but I can't give to everyone as I'd be out of pocket of
about a tenner a week. I work in the city centre and so get
asked everyday.

If I gave to everyone I wouldn't be able to have caviar for
tea everyday now would I?


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-03 15:13 [#00156342]
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Damn right!!! Socialism does not equal egelitarism: you have
to work dammit!!! And he who works hard gets to eat caviar
at five pm every day


 

offline wizards teeth from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 15:17 [#00156343]
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Did I forget to mention that I will be adding laxitaves or
rat poison to each sandwich.

oooooh arent I evil.

Ochre,

You still making music ?

teeth


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-03 15:18 [#00156345]
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In all honesty i believe we should throw the royals out of
Buckingham Palace and live their ourselves. The homeless can
have our houses then.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-03 15:21 [#00156348]
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WT, you are a nasty basterd. Why not just shoot them, why
this evil game?


 

offline wizards teeth from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 15:31 [#00156357]
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The Queen Mother had 50 servants.

I bet you I am busier than she was, I have no servants.

I suppose I do not wear hats, legend has it that is takes 50
people to place the hat on each of the royal families heads.
The reason for this is that each royal family member has
legs made from steel (this is one defect due to the
inbreeding). Therefore they are able to wear hats made from
very heavy material. To keep thier friends in high places
(the osmand family) happy, they wear hats made from Osmium.
Osmium being the heaviest of the elements, named Osmium as
it was first found inside Donny Osmand's kidney when he was
rushed to hospital as a child. They now have little Donny
strapped to a chair inside a volcano, with pipes extracting
the Osmium from his kidneys.


 

offline Chris Ochre on 2002-04-03 15:52 [#00156375]
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Yeah, I'm still making music (not that anyone would know,
looking at my website until recently.)

I'm making an album for Surgery Records, hopefully for
release in the summer. I'm also contributing a couple of
tracks to Toytronic's next comp, which is cool, but I don't
know anything about this release yet. It's a bit hush hush.

My CPU cooler's made from Osmium, as it has very good heat
conductivity. Expensive though, although I hear prices
should come down with the imminent opening of The European
Donny Osmond Cloning Facility.


 

offline wizards teeth from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 16:25 [#00156413]
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after summer do you fancy having a live music night at the
art centre, there is someone on here called manic miner, he
makes music.

all three of us could play a live set


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-04-03 21:33 [#00156789]
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I just love your outlook on life Jonesy, you really do make
me smile! I really admire people who speak there mind -
besides I tend to agree with you! (Shhhhh don't tell anyone
else though!!)

I'd like to know what you think of Meho's idea of shooting
them all! I can imagine your response!! :)


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2002-04-03 21:40 [#00156794]
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just give a poor bastard a fucking sandwich! no matter what
circumstnces, you never know what could happen and i'm sure
if anything did happen to you, you'd like a free fucking
sandwich! so drop all the political bullshit and put a
fucking smile on a stranger's face who's been having some
bad luck. it's simple so keepit that way!


 

offline rarndaraki from from from from (United States) on 2002-04-03 21:43 [#00156797]
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hey meho- do you know how hard it is for homeless people to
get a job?!
Once your there its hard, very fuckin hard to get back into
normal society, getting a job and such. Most homeless
people become homeless when they are children. Without an
education its nearly impossible for them to get a job, so
please stop talking out of your ass.


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2002-04-03 21:44 [#00156798]
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and even if you don't think it's right you could at least
give him a sandwich with rat poison in it that way at least
he thinks you're being nice.....which depending on how you
look at it, that just as very well maybe true to some extent
of a certain degree.



 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-04-03 21:44 [#00156799]
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It's like that saying in the Bible though isn't it? Give a
man a fish, and feed him- yet teach him how to fish, and he
can feed himself. Hell - what do I know, I'm not even a
religous person. But then again I don't want to argue about
this with anyone!


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-04-03 21:52 [#00156806]
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To clear up a few common misconceptions about the homeless:

- "All homeless are insane/mentally unstable" - not true.
many aren't. Drug abuse is the most likely reason people
think this.

- "All homeless refuse to work" - not true. Many attempt to
get jobs but are turned away because of a lack of personal
information - it's hard to get a job when you don't have a
home address or , like Chris said, a bank account.

-"All homeless are unemployed" - not true, many are employed
at minimum wage jobs, but don't make enough money to pay for
food, rent, and other expenses. A lack of education,
experience, and job skills causes this problem.

- "They should go to shelters" - Shelters are nice, but are
also comptetive. People don't realize that there are often
requirements to stay in shelters. Some homeless people are
turned away because it's discovered by the management that
there is a long lost aunt (or some other family member) with
whom they could theoretically stay, even if that is
impossible for family/social reasons.

just some things to think about.



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-04-03 21:54 [#00156812]
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Jonesy, I thought homeless people were just archetypal
working class communists, living off other people's work.
;)

Seriously, I think this is a really good idea. I remeber
getting really pissed off when the restaurant that I worked
at stopped giving away leftovers to homeless people.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-04-03 21:56 [#00156815]
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I don't get how people can hate homeless people or go around
beating them up, it's not like anyone intends to turn out
that way. One day it may be you who breaks under the strain
and ends up homeless.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-04-03 22:05 [#00156827]
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You are nearly a wizard Ceri!
Post a few more times....and take your place amoung the
'elite' ! !

:)


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-04-03 22:07 [#00156829]
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I don't hate homeless people - like a great deal of people I
probably just ignore them, and hope they'll go away!

Granted, Jonsey would've used a lot more colourful
metaphors!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-04-03 22:11 [#00156833]
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I admit it can be annoying when they interrupt you
mid-conversation. I'm far more inclined to give to parisian
beggars who just sit there quietly.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-04-03 22:18 [#00156842]
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If they're just sat there, they're not beggars 'cos they're
not begging! They are tramps!



 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-04-03 22:19 [#00156845]
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At least beggars have the initiative to ask for money or
food. Tramps just sit there wallowing in self-pity!


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2002-04-03 22:25 [#00156853]
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now we know how you became a wizard so quickly, jedi chris.



 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-04-03 22:28 [#00156861]
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Jealousy is a horrible thing! ;)


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-04-03 22:30 [#00156866]
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So is spamming....


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2002-04-03 22:32 [#00156871]
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HA-HA!


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-04-03 22:33 [#00156872]
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You can all go to hell!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-04-03 22:35 [#00156874]
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I'll grass you up to Phob and he'll reset your points to
zero ;p


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2002-04-03 22:38 [#00156880]
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yeah, me too!

HA-HA!


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-04-03 22:38 [#00156881]
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That sounds like a threat to me ;)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-04-03 22:41 [#00156886]
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I don't FEED homeless people...

I EAT homeless people!!! Mostly families that just had their
home destroyed in a fire, that kind of homeless people... at
least they're fairly clean. The bearded ones taste gross,
like leather or something. Gah!


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2002-04-03 22:41 [#00156888]
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jk, i'm not a narc. i could do it anyways tho and just say
it was Ceri JC!

HA-HA!


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-04-03 22:43 [#00156889]
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Stop spamming EVOL - try sticking to the topic :P

:)


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2002-04-03 22:50 [#00156897]
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HA-HA!


 


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