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         |  hexane
             on 2009-04-23 19:04 [#02287534] Points: 2035 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | The Intelligent Design Movement is a neo-creationist religious campaign that calls for broad social, academic and
 political changes derived from the concept of "intelligent
 design." The overall goal of the intelligent design movement
 is to "overthrow materialism" and atheism. Its proponents
 believe that society has suffered "devastating cultural
 consequences" from adopting materialism and that science is
 the cause of the decay into materialism because science
 seeks only natural explanations. Science is therefore
 atheistic, the movement's proponents claim.
 
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         |  hexane
             on 2009-04-23 19:11 [#02287536] Points: 2035 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | Related: MC Hawking - F*the Creationists 
 
 
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         |  Advocate
             on 2009-04-24 00:36 [#02287542] Points: 3324 Status: Regular
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 | intelligent design is: bullshit. that's how i feel. total. fucking. bullshit.
 
 
 
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         |  diamondtron
             on 2009-04-24 02:02 [#02287548] Points: 1138 Status: Lurker
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 | IDM now stands for INTERNATIONAL DANCE MUSIC not Intelligent...
 pass it on
 
 
 
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         |  Falito
             from Balenciaga  on 2009-04-24 03:34 [#02287549] Points: 3974 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | aphex twin believe in the god 
 
 
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2009-04-24 06:57 [#02287568] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker
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 | they are a confused group of true believers who have allowed themselves to be seduced by their own egos into believing
 that their model of reality is the unassailable truth.
 
 this applies to creationists as well as scientific
 materialists.  in the short term, a rigid model of reality
 is stabilizing.  in the long term, it is a tomb.
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-24 07:57 [#02287570] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to plaidzebra: #02287568
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 | My tomb can eradicate smallpox and fly to the moon. And yours?
 
 
 
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         |  pulseclock
             from Downtown 81 on 2009-04-24 08:42 [#02287572] Points: 6015 Status: Lurker | Followup to plaidzebra: #02287568
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 | life is a death sentence, you're going out one way or the other. Ideas and belief are temporary, nature seems to be a
 constant. If we are true in our perceptions of nature and
 life, there should be no problem ridding away unrealistic
 beliefs and models of thought.
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-24 09:09 [#02287574] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to pulseclock: #02287572
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 | Plato seemed to think otherwise. Actually a major theme of philosophy, both western and eastern, is man's substitution
 of a world of illusion (Plato's shadows in the cave, Hindu
 maya) for reality. Which is to say, it ain't so simple.
 
 
 
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2009-04-24 10:55 [#02287580] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #02287570
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 | you kidder. 
 but what did you get out some people going to the moon?  did
 the knowledge of lunar surface and samples (which we already
 had on earth) match the ego driven consumption of massive
 resources to accomplish the mission?
 
 more interestingly, curing smallpox did not reduce human
 suffering.  the suffering just got shifted somewhere else.
 do you imagine that science will proceed curing and fixing
 until the suffering is gone?
 
 i still say that asking why we live is a more fruitful
 inquiry than asking why we die, and furiously trying to
 prevent it from happening.
 
 
 
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         |  mohamed
             from the turtle business on 2009-04-24 12:32 [#02287615] Points: 31593 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | yes but what would Plato think about chavs? 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-24 13:28 [#02287622] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to plaidzebra: #02287580
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 | but what did you get out some people going to the moon?
 
 http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/
 
 the suffering just got shifted somewhere else.
 
 Yes? Then you'll be happy to see it shifting back to you as
 infectious disease makes a comeback due to anti vaccination
 hysteria and misuse of antibiotics. And you certainly won't
 want to save yourself by using medicines derived from
 this technology. You'll embrace The Death.
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-24 13:31 [#02287623] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to mohamed: #02287615
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 | Plato was an aristocratic twit but I can see Socrates getting on well with chavs. Socrates liek hard boys.
 
 
 
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         |  larn
             from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2009-04-24 13:54 [#02287625] Points: 5476 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | back in the days when the only way to insult someone was to firmly say Good day sir!!!
 
 
 
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2009-04-24 14:17 [#02287631] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #02287622
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 | seriously, man.  what the fuck.  did you even read my post? 
 anyway, happy weekend.
 
 
 
 
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         |  mohamed
             from the turtle business on 2009-04-24 14:27 [#02287633] Points: 31593 Status: Regular | Followup to plaidzebra: #02287631 | Show recordbag
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-24 14:35 [#02287637] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to plaidzebra: #02287631
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 | Hon, I'm sorry. Let me wash your yoga pants and we'll listen to some Eckhart Tolle MP3s.
 
 
 
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         |  larn
             from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2009-04-24 14:49 [#02287639] Points: 5476 Status: Regular | Followup to mohamed: #02287633 | Show recordbag
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 | you should be ashamed for doing that to our bear 
 
 
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         |  larn
             from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2009-04-24 14:49 [#02287640] Points: 5476 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | hasn't he suffered enough? 
 
 
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         |  Barf Simpleton
             from the outback (Zimbabwe) on 2009-04-26 13:09 [#02287880] Points: 195 Status: Regular
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 | jesus was the original idm artist 
 
 
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