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hexane
on 2009-04-23 19:04 [#02287534]
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The Intelligent Design Movement is a neo-creationist religious campaign that calls for broad social, academic and political changes derived from the concept of "intelligent design." The overall goal of the intelligent design movement is to "overthrow materialism" and atheism. Its proponents believe that society has suffered "devastating cultural consequences" from adopting materialism and that science is the cause of the decay into materialism because science seeks only natural explanations. Science is therefore atheistic, the movement's proponents claim.
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hexane
on 2009-04-23 19:11 [#02287536]
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Related: MC Hawking - F*the Creationists
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Advocate
on 2009-04-24 00:36 [#02287542]
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intelligent design is: bullshit. that's how i feel. total. fucking. bullshit.
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diamondtron
on 2009-04-24 02:02 [#02287548]
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IDM now stands for INTERNATIONAL DANCE MUSIC not Intelligent... pass it on
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2009-04-24 03:34 [#02287549]
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aphex twin believe in the god
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2009-04-24 06:57 [#02287568]
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they are a confused group of true believers who have allowed themselves to be seduced by their own egos into believing that their model of reality is the unassailable truth.
this applies to creationists as well as scientific materialists. in the short term, a rigid model of reality is stabilizing. in the long term, it is a tomb.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-24 07:57 [#02287570]
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My tomb can eradicate smallpox and fly to the moon. And yours?
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-04-24 08:42 [#02287572]
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life is a death sentence, you're going out one way or the other. Ideas and belief are temporary, nature seems to be a constant. If we are true in our perceptions of nature and life, there should be no problem ridding away unrealistic beliefs and models of thought.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-24 09:09 [#02287574]
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Plato seemed to think otherwise. Actually a major theme of philosophy, both western and eastern, is man's substitution of a world of illusion (Plato's shadows in the cave, Hindu maya) for reality. Which is to say, it ain't so simple.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2009-04-24 10:55 [#02287580]
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you kidder.
but what did you get out some people going to the moon? did the knowledge of lunar surface and samples (which we already had on earth) match the ego driven consumption of massive resources to accomplish the mission?
more interestingly, curing smallpox did not reduce human suffering. the suffering just got shifted somewhere else. do you imagine that science will proceed curing and fixing until the suffering is gone?
i still say that asking why we live is a more fruitful inquiry than asking why we die, and furiously trying to prevent it from happening.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-04-24 12:32 [#02287615]
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yes but what would Plato think about chavs?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-24 13:28 [#02287622]
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but what did you get out some people going to the moon?
http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/
the suffering just got shifted somewhere else.
Yes? Then you'll be happy to see it shifting back to you as infectious disease makes a comeback due to anti vaccination hysteria and misuse of antibiotics. And you certainly won't want to save yourself by using medicines derived from this technology. You'll embrace The Death.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-24 13:31 [#02287623]
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Plato was an aristocratic twit but I can see Socrates getting on well with chavs. Socrates liek hard boys.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2009-04-24 13:54 [#02287625]
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back in the days when the only way to insult someone was to firmly say Good day sir!!!
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2009-04-24 14:17 [#02287631]
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seriously, man. what the fuck. did you even read my post?
anyway, happy weekend.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-04-24 14:27 [#02287633]
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-24 14:35 [#02287637]
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Hon, I'm sorry. Let me wash your yoga pants and we'll listen to some Eckhart Tolle MP3s.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2009-04-24 14:49 [#02287639]
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you should be ashamed for doing that to our bear
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2009-04-24 14:49 [#02287640]
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hasn't he suffered enough?
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Barf Simpleton
from the outback (Zimbabwe) on 2009-04-26 13:09 [#02287880]
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jesus was the original idm artist
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