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i'm sure this will be of interest to some people- |
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so basically its like what reason does.... |
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nope |
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Sure it does. You patch things together and make noise. |
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similar but different. this is more about fx design that modular rig simulation i think. you do still chain them together though i guess. i might be interested in this. never got around to jumping into max/msp but this might be a good way to get into it. i'm interested in having custom fx that can't be identified and also glitch fx seem like they would be fun to make. |
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Kind of a bad sign that Max 5 still can't export VST plugins but it runs as a plugin in Live. Maybe they have an agreement with Ableton to provide plugins exclusively for Live. |
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I was sort of thinking the same thing. I'd be more interested in a Reason update then this to be honest. |
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omg what is wrong with you people! :P this is an amazing new feature.. the capability to make, edit and download devices created in max directly in ableton like this is a dream come true, and will extend live enormously.. its certainly a good opportunity to learn max as well.. and automation, preset saving and everything functions just as normal in live.. amazing |
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that and it actually has an api that allows the max "plugin" to alter core features of live.. *droooool* |
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i use fl studio |
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fl studio Max... hmmmm i'm interested, i love building music stuffs |
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well FL studio can also do this actually. it has it's own modular thingie internally called Synthmaker. it's there since version 8 I believe (free). and if you buy the commercial licence for the app you can export to vst. |
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i actually haven't used FL studio anymore since version 6 (i think), i hated upgrading all the time, and i rather have my own software or ableton |
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I've been using FL since verison 3 and I must say that FL 8 is a really complete and powerfull package. it's very modular in its own way. if only FL studio was a little better in marketing it's stuff. because it's still seen a bit as a toy. I haven't actually used synthmaker but it does expand allot of possibilities. |
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i really like the potential in this not for making synths or effects but for midi and controller stuff. i'm not really good in c++ and other non-graphic languages so i ended up always sticking reaktor 5 between ableton and my self build midi-controller. making your own sequencers is what excites me the most |
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Lame. Yet another ridiculous application with a gum-drop interface, requiring conformity from the user. We don't need anymore Max/MSPs in this world! Code-based electronic synthesis is the future. |
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it's nice to see the companies developing together however i've never really taken to ableton and i find msp is fairly rank for dsp work, so when it boils down to it you could simply use Max 5 to control your existing ableton if you wanted the midi functionality. the whole technology thing is basically a maguffin but it's hard not keep one eye out for something special. . . |
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super collider certainly sounds the best to my ears. |
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lol. |
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It's all about controlling ableton parameters with wii controllers, light sensors and the like. I'm interested. |
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wii controller was fun about 5 minutes, worst buy ever. |
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you people are so fucking dumb |
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55 points it took you to notice this, oy. |
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The university give me one to use thank god because in all seriousness is garbage outside of artsy fartsy uses or fucking around. |
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Shut up. This will be so awesome. Anyone know if it's gonna be free with Ableton Live 8 or an add-on thing which you've gotta pay for? I'm not even sure if Ableton and Cycling know this themselves yet... the details around pricing are vague/non-existent on the website. |
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I just got the ableton newsletter.. MaxForLive is a separate product not available in suite or regular 8.. My upgrade options tell me a pure 7->8 upgrade without the new instruments and latin percussion is 179 USD (ouch) and WITH mallet thing and latin it is 329.. (including analog, tension etc which i didnt buy when i bought live 7..) MFL will not be available on the launch of 8 either but rather later this year :( |
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Troutmask ftw. Once again he shows us the way musicians should really think. |
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Daymn. That's a shame. Oh well, hopefully it'll be less than Max costs itself. |
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i dont like how they treat their customers.. basically if i want to upgrade to 8 from 7 with no extra things like the mallet instruments and latin percussion, i have to pay 179, thats minimum price. if i want those, i have to pay 349 which also includes sampler, tension and analog which i didnt buy last time. theres no option to buy only live 8 + new instruments/samples, which would've been cheaper than including sampler/analog/tension which i dont even want/need. i want the mallet instrument but not latin percussion, and none of the other things, and theres no option to pick components, its either everything i didnt buy with 7, or nothing and only the core update.. On top of that you can get MFL is going to be at least 200, so if i want the mallet instrument and MFL, along with the core update, this whole thing could cost over 500.. 349 + whatever MFL will cost (i bet at least 200.) It's really stupid and outrageous to milk customers like this |
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Seems to be apples business model too. More companies are realizing that you can milk people for every last drop of blood if your product is popular enough. Its not about supporting the little guy anymore. When they come out I am going to buy ableton 8, max and that hawt akai controller. I will probably get cracks of those other instruments. |
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which akai controller? |
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Yeah, I'd like to know how much of a profit they make from each version of Live... they don't have to charge that much for each part of the Suite (or whatever) just to pay their staff do they? How big is the Ableton team too? I imagine something similar to the Elektron team - less than 10 employees working on a few products - but I wouldn't be surprised if it was much bigger, it would explain the pretty high prices for each upgrade. |
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ha, nice! a friend who knows someone working at Ableton told me about this a couple of months ago. Didn't post cuz i didn't want to spread false rumors or such. But yeah, it's a great addition for Live. I mean seriously, there is a digital DAW that's meant to be highly flexible/realtime contrallable and whatnot, but lacks so much of possibilities of *the digital*, still clinging to simulate the interfaces of analog equipment with knobs and faders, tracks, etc. much like a cd player: a digital device, but basically only an emulation of a vinyl player with just a couple of features added that are only possible in the digital domain. So until now, midi manipulation in Live was really basic and lacked so much... this Max thing will allow for very awesome stuffs, yay! now, there is still the crap sound of Live's instruments and effects. They should rework that stuff imo. |
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