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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-12 17:41 [#02264135]
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I like this stuff
example 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1jDm_UqAnk&feature=related
example 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6erC93RvZeI&feature=related
Plus more!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-12 17:43 [#02264136]
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LAZY_TITLE
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-12 18:19 [#02264147]
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God I used to love this game.
Thanks love!
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2009-01-12 18:24 [#02264148]
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The first one sounds like a Horace Silver effort. Get 'Song for my father', great tune.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-12 18:26 [#02264149]
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I remember this one. Great stuff.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2009-01-12 18:32 [#02264152]
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It did sound like on the first listen!? Now I don't know hat it sounds like.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-12 18:44 [#02264154]
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I never actually played rott but someone put this music inside the hell revealed wad for doom2, and that one you linked to was level 13, a bitch shit of a hard level I spent nosebleed inducing hours playing but fun and the music is great.
I'll see if I can find song for my father.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-12 19:01 [#02264159]
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Yeah song for my father was great and has slight similarities.
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2009-01-12 23:20 [#02264208]
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rise of the triad was tight.
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CowCudIsATwin
on 2009-01-13 00:00 [#02264215]
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R.O.T.T. Love this game, brings back memories. remember the double handed pistols?... John Woo style
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-13 05:06 [#02264235]
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Here is the full version of the game including the WinROTT executable but keep it quiet like.
Just unzip the archive and then run the winrott 2.24 executable in the ROTT directory. If you're in vista run it in Win XP mode. Enjoy :)
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2009-01-13 05:37 [#02264237]
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it's a fun game, but some of the level design is pretty embarrassing and repetitive... but at least it did SOMETHING new to make it different from the other doom clones.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-13 05:57 [#02264239]
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Five different rocket launchers!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-13 10:14 [#02264269]
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Cool, thanks, the music outshines the kinda repetitive hitscan-only game.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2009-01-13 11:01 [#02264274]
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great game, thanks for the memories.
:-*
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-13 11:12 [#02264276]
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hitscan-only? even the rocket launchers?
I played this game like 12 years ago and don't remember the weapons being hitscan only, but to be fair I didn't even know what a hitscan weapon was back then.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-13 11:25 [#02264283]
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Oh yeah, well basically it lacks a variety of enemy types like doom2 at least based on my initial reaction of the first 3 levels. Heretic on the other hand completely lacks hitscanners.
I like speedrunning and doom2's monster variety and infighting potential make for some fun gameplay with unique strategies, especially insanely hard wads like hell revealed.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-13 11:32 [#02264286]
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I just started playing doom2 for gameboy advance via my EZ flash 3in1 and it captures the spirit of the game pretty well, though it is funny to play doom on a platform that still lags when you open the door into a massive room. I think I'll probably get doom again for PC so I can really get back to basics/get the full experience.
I fucking loved heretic, and its sequel Hexen. I loved pretty much every weapon in those games. Hitscans be damned.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-13 11:42 [#02264287]
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I liked the whole feel of the first heretic episode. The crossbow is fun to use and those first enemies are cool. Episodes with Sabreclaws/etc started having bad gameplay imo. If you want to play doom/doom2/heretic on windows, I recommend prboom-plus (true to original behavior and demos don't desync from version to version like with zdoom). You just need the original doom2 etc wad. And doombuilder for making your own maps.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-14 18:29 [#02264711]
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Hi, I'd like to give this prboom a try, but I'm curious as to which .wad I'll need. Will only a doomII .wad work for it, or would, say, Final or Ultimate Doom .wad work with it? Or they all pretty much the same. Thanks.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-14 18:30 [#02264712]
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Or are they all pretty much the same?
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wizards teeth
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-14 18:33 [#02264713]
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hi wMw or whatever your name is
im in london on 2-5 feb, fancy a pint?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-14 19:53 [#02264722]
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oh I got it working... this is awesome.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-14 20:02 [#02264723]
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Prboom-plus has better demo support than prboom (or something), but yeah any 'iwad' seems to work (like just put plutonia.wad in the same folder as prboom-plus, or doom2.wad, etc... plutonia is harder/more fun anyway, but I spend the majority of time playing user made wads (like hell revealed). Then just drag/drop any wad (like hr.wad etc) into prboom-plus.exe. (or in that case actually simultaneously drop hr.wad and hrmus.wad if you want the music).
If you happen to want to record a demo go to start/run and type something like (with your equivalent file path/settings):
C:\prboom-plus-2.5.0.1-win32\prboom-plus.exe -file hr -skill 4 -warp 01 -complevel 9 -nomusic -record hr-mydemo1
then if you want to play that demo drag the resulting hr-mydemo1.lmp and hr.wad into prboom-plus.exe simultaneously.
Hello teeth, I shall write words in that other topic.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-14 20:14 [#02264725]
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yup I got PRboom-plus working for the most part. The only problem is that the doom torrent I downloaded didn't come with a doommus.wad so I guess its just looping the built in music to PRboom.. which is like some weird General Midi 80s metal thing... Unless this is the music that was always in Doom but I don't recall it being that.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-14 20:16 [#02264726]
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And I can't seem to turn the music down or off with the in-game options.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-14 20:29 [#02264727]
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Which iwad are you using. It's probably just playing the music of your iwad, like plutonia has its own music etc. Normally wads have the music inside the wad itself with no extra 'mus' wad (hr is just an exception). Google:
hell revealed idgames Then try level 11 or 13
options (Esc)/ sound/ music seems to work. If not maybe fiddle with your computers volume controls.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-14 20:47 [#02264729]
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Actually sounds like maybe you're simply playing the normal doom2.exe without using the prboom-plus source port. Try putting doom2.wad (or whatever you have) in the same folder as prboom-plus.exe. Then drag and drop doom2.wad into the prboom-plus.exe icon. Then the music/etc might work right.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-14 20:49 [#02264730]
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yeah it's weird.. the in-game SFX slider works perfectly fine, but the in-game music slider doesn't seem to effect the audio. It might be turning it down a bit (not sure since i turned the SFX up gradually, too) but putting the slider all the way left doesn't mute it... should it?
also, is an iwad different from a wad? I don't seem to have any iwads, but I'm using doom.wad (the ultimate doom wad that has all 4 chapters of Doom1).
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-14 20:58 [#02264734]
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I also have the doom2 wad but i haven't played it yet as I kind of want to relive them in the correct order. Plus I need some practice before I graduate to something like plutonia or hell revealed.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-14 20:58 [#02264735]
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an iwad is a commercial release, a wad is a user made level. you need an iwad in the same folder or it won't work. try dragging doom.wad into prboom-plus.exe (with the mouse)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-14 21:16 [#02264739]
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Oh I see.. yeah I've got iwads and they're working fine. but ill try the drag and drop thing. Do you think that would fix the audio?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-14 21:53 [#02264744]
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hello again mister w M w. I've downloaded heretic and hexen .wads, but prboom only seems to recognize them as a subset of the doom games, I can't get it to load heretic as the actual game heretic, it tries to load the wad through the doom engine instead and then crashes. Any ideas?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-14 22:20 [#02264745]
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Oops, I thought prboom could play heretic but maybe not. Zdoom does though (same thing just download zdoom, put heretic.wad in the folder and drag/drop into zdoom.exe).
Did drag/drop fix the audio?
also if prboom seems choppy try: options/general/uncapped framerate:yes
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-14 22:33 [#02264746]
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cool I'll get Zdoom too, thanks. Also I don't know if there ever was an audio problem, as the levels have been progressing the music has been changing so it seems to be okay. Also I enabled the framerate thing and it runs smooths as silk.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-14 22:45 [#02264748]
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ah man I can't think you enough. Zdoom works great too, I'm having so much fun with heretic and doom. I think I might play heretic first. :D
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-14 23:00 [#02264753]
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prboom is mostly about staying true to the original doom behavior and demo recording for speedruns, while zdoom strays a bit from the original behavior but allows more advanced scripting behavior (like new monsters or enemies not being 'infinitely tall' etc), zdoom demos break on each new version.
I play this game a million hours a day. Making levels with doombuilder is quite fun too. Here's an unfinished weird wad I made (no monsters, intended for prboom (drag drop into it if interested))
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-14 23:01 [#02264754]
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-14 23:24 [#02264758]
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I've downloaded your .wad (that sounds filthy), and will check it out. It's so fun rediscovering all these doom and heretic conventions, like crushing ceilings and stuff. I found a torrent that has additional addons for all the games, like textures and models and stuff for doom, heretic and hexen... I didn't download any of them but I was wondering if you had any experience with those kind of addons, specifically in use with zdoom or prboom.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-14 23:35 [#02264759]
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One thing I've noticed that 3d games don't usually seem to get right is death animations. The animations are so good in doom and heretic, even if they're repetitive. I still remember the feeling of awe I had the first time I saw one of those corpse-brute-thing's soul escape as it ripped apart in heretic.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-14 23:51 [#02264761]
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I like the action packed weird 2.5d way more than boring 3d games. Some wads do have new textures/monsters/etc. 2 examples:
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There's software to add stuff like that but its not user friendly imo so I don't use it.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-15 00:10 [#02264763]
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LoL @ the description for Jar Jar's Last Fritter... in fact, LOL @ the entire concept. downloaded them both, will try them out.
speaking of 2.5d, you've played duke nukem 3d, right? That was always a classic "2.5d game" imo. I had a friend back in the day who had 2 comps on a LAN so we were able to play duke3d multiplayer. Those were good times. Anyway if you haven't already played the shit out of duke3d, get it immediately.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-15 12:10 [#02264889]
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I accidentally hit F5 in prboom and it replaced the standard HUD with a low profile one. hitting F5 just cycles through the prboom HUDs now... do you know how to get the classic HUD back?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-01-15 12:28 [#02264897]
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options/setup/keybindings/smallerview
I played/enjoyed duke many years ago. One con is all the extra buttons for looking/jump/etc and there's probably much less user created levels.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-17 23:02 [#02265640]
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thanks.
I'm currently on episode 4 of heretic, episode 2 of doom(I). I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to finding all the secrets, so I spend a lot of time running along walls spamming the space bar, otherwise I'd be much farther along. I'm savoring the nostalgia so I don't mind taking my time with it.
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