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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-16 03:40 [#02259092]
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i have just downloaded an ep and the person who's ripped it has recorded the track twice on to the single mp3 file (no doubt to get his ratio up)...
..anyways, this ep has been a ball-ache for me to get so i just wanna edit them with something like soundforge or maybe live. if i re-save them @ 192 kbps (the source files are 192kbps), will this reduce the quality any further or not?? if it does what's the best way to prevent this, but also keeping the files at a decent size? (not wav or whatever)......
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-16 03:41 [#02259093]
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what a way to celebrate 2000 posts, with a fucking geek question.
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blaaard
from Imatra (close to sky) (Finland) on 2008-12-16 03:47 [#02259094]
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me i dunno, but if this happened to me i'd save it as either 320kbps or vbr v0....
but that'd be interesting to find out.... to save something as 192kbps file, and then re-compress it a couple times more and listen if it gets bad...?
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Advocate
on 2008-12-16 03:51 [#02259095]
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my advice is to compare the original file with the edit/copy in adobe audition or someting.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-12-16 03:52 [#02259096]
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for personal use there's really nothing to worry about in terms of loss of sound quality. re-encoding in a higher bitrate than the source is completely useless.
but keep in mind if you edit the file you are seeding it will fail the hash.
also sites like what or waffles would most probably consider this a transcode (assuming you have to encode to wav then back to mp3, even within the program), preferring to have any edits in the original lossless format.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2008-12-16 04:01 [#02259098]
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re-encode at 192 then open both files in a wave editor, invert phase and paste the re-encoded one over the top of the original, should be perfect silence if it hasn't degraded
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2008-12-16 04:02 [#02259099]
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never, ever transcode mp3s.
i think you can actually crop the mp3 with some programs which don't re-compress the file. i can't remember the name of the program (mp3 cut or something?) but it definitely exists.
again, every time you compress an mp3 further, you're running the same algorithms but on a file which has already been "damaged" the first time. it's just the same as VHS generational damage used to be.
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-16 06:34 [#02259106]
Points: 2302 Status: Regular | Followup to Brisk: #02259099
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thanks for everyone's suggestions.
managed to find this thanks brisk.
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