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I have a very hard time associating any sound with the way it was intended by the sound maker. I tend to create my own values for sounds, and it even reflects in my music because I constantly find myself re-evaluating every song I made, and each time I sense a more precise and different aesthetic and association pattern than i did before. Right now I am looking for one which revolves around an alien species that has evolved completely alone in the universe. It has a very specific aesthetic, but at the same time I find myself being forgiving and dropping the actual sound creation, because I'm happy with something I've already created. Then I become uncertain about what I want, because I'm not sure if I associate any of it with what I originally had in mind. I originally created a song named The Cube, and a friend of mine heard it and he instantly said "underwater!" and I was like wtf, I thought it was some the cube movie like thing. Then I listened to it, and holy crap, the reverb and such certainly makes it seem drenched in /something/ like water at least. I ended up throwing a pad on it and naming it abyss, and immediately felt better because I knew others would associate something like an abyss rather than the previous cube. As I said though, I am now looking for the aesthetic of an alien hive, which has evolved on a planet somewhere distant from earth, with different colors in the atmosphere, and a different vibe altogether. I have a song named Hive Mind, but it's not what I'm looking for. In fact I have a very hard time finding the sounds I want. I'm not sure what I want, but it has to be synthesized and digital, yet organic and evolving, without using too many pads. I'm looking for something I haven't heard before. I may have heard some sounds here and there, but the complete package - no. What I'm wondering though also, is if anyone here on the board whos into sound design and abstract stuff, want to add me on msn and maybe make some sounds together. im coax@cybernetix.org c |
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-- the point of this thread as well, is that i wanted to know if anyone had some tips for artists maybe with an otherwordly type aesthetic, and unusual sounds, and maybe some discussion about sound design in general. |
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theremin sound = alien sound. case closed |
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hell no! |
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i would like to make otherworldly sounds, and i will, but my semester ends th 17th, so hopefully by then i will be able to focus alot of time on that. right now im into painting and homework. |
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tl;dr |
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true :( |
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my approach would be to try capture themes, aspects etc. with sound, but not be overly explicit or obvious with the alien thing. so, for their sky maybe a breathy pad w some noise in the mix, but some ring or sine type mod mixed to make it feel alien. then maybe squelchy sounds or some click clacking to mimic the sounds the aliens themselves make. the mood for me would be about finding a blend between something very cold and desolate, but with just enough warmth blended in. maybe somewhere between rapoon, mirror, ambre, autechre. maybe some coil or r devine. i think you can do it, well you are doing it. your stuff does evoke what you are describing most of the time on its own, really. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUcOaGawIW0 |
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whenever i think of space (which really isn't that often) i think of the music at the beginning of alien3. |
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thanks glasse! maybe it really is that simple.. i guess what i wanted were more complex sounds, hard to explain.. oyvinto: great movie and great soundtrack ampi max: yeah, the alien movies really did it well. maybe some orchestral is the way to go, i dunno. |
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I don't think you can accurately translate aesthetics from one person to another through sound. You can certainly translate mood, but what the person pictures in his head is based on so many factors that don't even relate to the sound in question. I myself rarely picture complete soundscapes, like alien ships or whatever... I almost always automatically assign a specific visual to each sound and watch it unfold as a pattern. I don't remember listening to music this way before I took acid for the first time, but ever since music has been a "structural" thing, rather than a complete cinematic style visual. "almost always automatically assign" |
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I don't think you can even "translate" moods to everyone.. Maybe within a certain culture, but what a person in one country would construe as "happy" music, would likely sound eerie and "off" to another person. |
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