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how does it change your world? |
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mohamed loses. |
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well for starters it seems I've been living in a time bubble that's about 24 hours behind everyone else. |
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in one of his speech he says that americans need to make the change themselves, regardless of the way which a new presidency can help that change. it sounds like the most of them might want to start watching what's inside of their homes. |
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*in which |
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My wife just told me his granny died, is this true (as I don't believe a word she says (joking))? |
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i told that once to an official at the compulsory military service just to escape for a weekend sooo... |
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It seems to be true. She was the only one who knew that he actually IS the devil. She couldn't bare watching. |
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to watch |
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"Make the change themselves....." quite funny coming from pro-big government. |
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gobama! We're getting drunqk 2murrow celebrætin' africa obaama! It'll be friggin' auwzum! |
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let's make this a pro-big humans era |
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So what's up with this Bergh VS Obama case? Far be it me to follow Obama very closely, but I guess the point is to prove he isn't a natural born citizen? I thought prior to running for Office you had to submit a Birth Certificate? Anywho it sounds like some Clinton supporter (oh god) is going through the motions with the court. I also find it quite funny on the guys site that a bunch of Clinton supporters are voting McCain. Two things come to mind with that: 1) People are fucking stupid 2) McCain is a liberal in sheeps clothing |
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sounds like a gossip column! |
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I heard about that. I can't see how Obama could have gotten this far into the race without having provided his birth certificate. |
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revpersona don't know shit bout shit. |
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Oh really? Please enlighten me then. |
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awww.. why fight, Obama has win! |
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*has won! or doesn't he |
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A small gobama from me as well. Even if I disagree with a few things... I still can't help but like the guy :) |
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Well, just watch some crazy thing happen where Obama is inelligble to become President due to this case and then all of the electorates he won cast their vote for Hillary. Then John Titor was right! And hell in a hand-basket here we come. |
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Psssst vote on the issues not character >:O :[ |
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I think the hell in the handbasket analogy better fits Bush's second term. At least Obama will surround himself with competent people. |
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Well SINCE all of california's electoral votes are going to Obama anyway, I'm going to vote my conscience and go Bob Barr. But if I lived in Ohio, I'd vote Obama. Like I said I'm not really a libertarian idealist. I like the philosophy but let's get realistic, it's not gonna happen anytime soon. Was it really so bad under Clinton? ;) |
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I don't think so. Obama has entrenched Democrats on his committee. There was some speech he was giving and he was mocking McCain and the "good ol' boys" - well Obama has the "good ol' boys" workin for him. Follow the money trail and then see where those companies are on his committee. That's a big problem with America right now, we DO need change, but nothing will happen because there's no new blood getting in on either party. I hate to sound conspiracist, but these old boys care more about corporate interests than our own. |
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But that also partially goes back to character. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I don't Obama's a sellout. McCain IS a sellout (his pick of Sarah Palin was just an insult to american's intelligence everywhere). I don't think Obama will align himself with corporate interests anymore than Clinton did. He seems to genuinely want to help people. That's why I like the cat. |
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See that's what my dad says. A lot of the problems I have with both Parties and the reason I like Paul so much my dad also agrees with, BUT like many Americans he's voting for "the party" and he tries to justify it by saying well Obama can't say that stuff now because it'll be political suicide. Personally, I don't think repealing Bush's executive orders is suicide, but like I told him I am of the show me mindset. I feel a lot of Americans are going to realize later on that they were led on (other than Stupid Fucking People) and that this new adminstration will keep most of if not all of the Bush policies intact moving forward with their own. I'm tellin ya, don't get brainwashed when he's in Office with what he wants to do. Remind yourself to look every month or so to see if he goes against these Bush policies. That will be the tell-tale sign. |
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youre a stupid mickane supporter. go away the electorals have obama with more than double your pathetic bush clone. you stnad no chance of winning so save your sore loser complaints |
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I really wouldn't be surprised if he shuts the Patriot Act down after a short time in office. He'll close out guantanamo bay, he's already said. He'll start bring back troops from Iraq, that's 12 billion a month right there. The things Obama would do that would directly benefit me: low cost health insurance tax cuts The things Obama would do that directly hurt me: supports the FCC- (censorship) inflation of currency based on spending money we don't have -- The things McCain would do that would directly benefit me: ..... (crickets)...... The things McCain would do that directly hurt me: supports the FCC- (censorship) inflation of currency based on spending money we don't have --- so that's pretty cut an dry if you ask me. Plus factor in the character, Obama seems genuine, McCain does not. That's probably the single biggest thing for me. |
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Yeah, but again they both voted for the bailout....and look what that has accomplished. Bernanke and Paulson (or whoever his Sec. of Treasury is) are going to keep coming asking for more bailouts. When 85% of the public is against it and both candidates vote for it - that shows where there interest lies. Yeah, Obama has a plan to have em home from Iraq is 16mos or something like that, but he is for sending more troops into Afghanistan....and again it's going to come down to show me. A lot of ideology comes into my decission making process, so I'm trying to keep that away from here. A thing to keep in mind is whenever the government makes a power grab (be it taxes, policies, regulations, etc.) more times than not (and way more than not) they keep them intact instead of casting them off when they are no longer needed. Specficially for all we know Obama's comittee likes these Bush Executive Orders because it will benefit them once they are in power - yet will cry foul (and vote for them - just look at how many Democrats voted for the Patriot Act) when they are not the ones utilizing it. When it comes to Liberals there needs to be more like Kucinich. If you want the "Straight Talk Express" with no bullshit and none or little corporate influence he should be your man. Not Obama or any of the other power brokers in the party. |
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it was wierd, all this time and my neighbor waited till the day before to talk about the election with me. in his words the "blacks" will riot with a obama victory or loss. the guy is a nice old man, he is a pastor and does social work. but to have he tell me that, when he knows one of my kids is half black was pretty insulting. |
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its funny how plugging sentences from revpersonia's posts into google takes u to the original articles from other people. god youre a sad boy. stop trying to act like you care about politics or that your stupid opinion matters. |
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gotta be insane to vote mccain lol!!!!!!! |
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true - now you just need to come up with a negative-witty slogan for Obama. |
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hmm. |
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yeah. I'm no fan of the bailout either. Let those banks rot, there are better ways and incentives to regulate the credit market than to pump taxpayer money back into private banks. I guess if people actually lost all their holdings in the bank, then maybe specific bailout for that would have been in order. But that didn't seem to be the case. But i'm not going to sit here and pretend that I really care about the bailout as an ideological talking point, because I don't. I care about Sarah Palin not becoming my president, and social conservatives banning books, censoring games, and looking over my shoulder like true socialist east germany style big brothers. |
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sorry but thats one of the worst nationalistic pictures i ever seen |
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