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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-14 14:48 [#02245437]
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Recommend your favourite Windows based media playing software for audio files. I use Winamp at the moment but am looking for something else to try out.
Thanks xltronic.com/mb
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-10-14 14:51 [#02245438]
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I love foobar, it has good options for different display setups, uses idtags (of course) and plays a variety of formats, all with almost 0 performance hit. I've found it to be very stable and efficient.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-10-14 15:22 [#02245450]
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#1 you should have stopped using winamp about ten years ago, it has become so buggy and bloated with code (at least the last time i used it) not to mention being owned by whatever big evil corp (aol is it?).
foobar (wow, i actually just typo'd that as food bar) is an excellent little player, and being open source it is both quite stable and have tons of plug ins and modifications to make. i have many friends who swear by it, but personally i don't because...
having been on mac os x for the last few years (killed my mb, now on a fucking gateway) i couldn't help but come to love the layout of itunes. the biggest problems are with memory usage and that if you don't have your id3 tags proper your library becomes an unnavigable mess, but if you get that in order is quite wonderful to have all your music at your fingertips without having to go rooting your endless amounts of subfolders.
your third option would be vlc, which is what i use to play files before i bother to import them into itunes. it's not as robust as foobar, and is more focused on being a video player, but does well in a pinch and uses a really minimal amount of memory.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-14 15:24 [#02245451]
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just use itunes mang
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-14 15:38 [#02245455]
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Unfortunately I am not hip to the groove of what's happening in the world of music listening software. I'll try Foobar for its low resource usage.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-10-14 16:16 [#02245461]
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I'd use foobar if it had a cooler name. ''Foobar'' just sounds gross.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-14 16:19 [#02245462]
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I still use Winamp, never really fucks up on me. I usually use a skin which allows for docked toolbar, currently I'm using "Big Bento". Now that's a fucked up name.
Itunes is horrible imo.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-14 18:00 [#02245479]
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i think i use vlc media player, plays most stuff but not midis
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freqy
on 2008-10-14 18:08 [#02245480]
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there is only one thing wrong with vlc..... nothing.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-14 18:23 [#02245483]
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Does VLC have a decent library function though? I already use it for videos but I'm not sure whether its good for flicking though thousands of files, making playlists, etc.
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freqy
on 2008-10-14 18:31 [#02245484]
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....infact it played my grans old 78's last week.. i wasn't shocked. ..we had a right ol nee's up! :P with port n lemon :)
however i had to stop it browesing my filthy aunts cine films from the 60's children were in the room at the time...so we all went into the garden for a game of football. .
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cyrstal dude
from LA all day! (United States) on 2008-10-14 18:34 [#02245486]
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never had any problems with winamp...
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-14 18:45 [#02245489]
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I knew I shouldn't have asked you a serious question.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-10-14 18:45 [#02245490]
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to be fair i stopped using it around 2003, so it may very well have gotten better, but man did it suck back then. the jump from 2 to 3 was just awful.
(i actually do keep 2.95 installed, just so that i can still get baked and watch the astounding milkdrop visualizer.)
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freqy
on 2008-10-14 18:49 [#02245492]
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" knew I shouldn't have asked you a serious question."
media monkey is something you should check out !! its very cool and it will serve you well. :P
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freqy
on 2008-10-14 18:50 [#02245493]
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i meant to say ..thats the sweetest thing anyone has said to me all day long.....be careful i might buy you rice milk chocolates.! mmm :P
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hexane
on 2008-10-14 19:10 [#02245495]
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remember this
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PS
on 2008-10-14 19:40 [#02245496]
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Listen to freqy, give MediaMonkey a go. Foobar. Songbird looks promising.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2008-10-14 19:46 [#02245497]
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foobar is a go go! vlc is kinda good too but very crash sensitive imo
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-10-15 01:21 [#02245530]
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ah, milkdrop! I had forgotten about that beauty... that plugin and electronic music go hand in hand, as far as my foray into the genre is concerned.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-10-15 01:31 [#02245531]
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yeah, it's actually now the default visualizer bundles with the new winamp, but for some reason it doesn't react to the music in the same way that it used to.
odd fact: the guy who wrote milkdrop lives here in santa cruz and a friend of a friend once went to his house and smoked him out as a thank you.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-15 07:38 [#02245567]
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One word: JetAudio.
Seriously, nothing has anything on this playa. Sound quality is awesome and there loadsa extra features, like CD ripping and lyric viewing, as well as sound recording and radio. |perfect for the kinda guys that use this forum.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-10-15 09:02 [#02245583]
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to claim that a software audio player has good sound quality (or any variation in sound quality whatsoever) seems kind of silly to me. and cd ripping, audio recording, and radio should hardly be considered extras anymore - for a media center-based player these better be fucking standard.
and i looked at this "playa's" website, and itunes has everything on it, every single feature is matched by itunes and most mp3 players out there.
PLUS you have to pay for some features like mp3 encoding, the "crystal clear" 32-bit sound (read: unnecessary, no one, and i mean no one can tell the difference between 16 and 24-bit, so why 32?) and AND AN EQUALIZER???
I call bullshit.
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2008-10-15 09:07 [#02245586]
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Fah teached me the power of foobar madness and now I swear by it.
diggin' thru subfolders? try having ALL your music in the same playlist-file. that's what retape™ does.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-15 09:43 [#02245618]
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Uh-huh.
And which media players offer 32 bit sound anyway? Let alone free ones?
And it does undeniably give better quality sound than other PLAYERS (if you are so rigid as to demand the correct spelling). How can you say that doesn't matter? Do you not care about the quality of your choons?
Plus, what are you actually saying about the equalizer?
Maybe you're right about the extra features. Maybe they're just features, rather than extras.
Which PLAYA do you use then, hed?
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-10-15 09:56 [#02245625]
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i'm saying that 32 bit sound is hugely unnecessary. it's one of those audiophile things that people claim they can hear the difference just to warrant spending that extra cash. i mean, you're listening to MP3s! it's like drinking cheap vodka out of a really expensive glass - it may look nice, but it's still gonna taste like shit.
and you say "Let alone free ones?" like this one offers 32 bit playback for free, which it does not. look at the features list - you gotta pay for the pro version to get that. do you even have a 32 bit sound card to take advantage of this amazing sound quality? because otherwise all your hard earned dollars are going to waste because even if the software is in 32 bit, it's still being downgraded to a "lowly" 16 bits once it gets to your speakers.
other than this 32 bit wonderment, THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY FOR ONE SOFTWARE AUDIO PLAYER TO REPRODUCE SOUND BETTER THAN ANY OTHER.
and i'm saying you have to PAY for an EQUALIZER? that is horse shit. every single mp3 player i have ever seen at least offers an eq for free, even ones which do have a silly pro-version on top of it.
check out my previous posts - i use itunes because it has a great ui (which jetaudio is blatantly ripping off, and has only just implemented - read: bugs), syncs with my ipod effortlessly, and is stable as fuck, even if it does use a bit more memory than some of the competitors. plus it offers all of those "extras" with no need to pay for a pro version.
seriously, what is cd ripping without an mp3 encoder? fucking useless.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-15 10:13 [#02245631]
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Yeah- mebbe you're right.
I used to have an X-Fi card, therefore 32 bit sound. I'll be honest and say that my media player prolly didn't have 32-bit capabilities, so I effectively wouldn't have had it. To be fair though, before that I had shitty onboard sound, so anything better than that would sound amazing to me. Thanks for bringing that up- now I'll have a look out for it. I would get an external X-Fi, now that I have a laptop, but I have to install XP first, since Vista is a complete and utter bag of shite, as it doesn't even seem to support 5.1 sound for laptops.
I still disagree with you saying that all media players have the same quality of sound- Jet Audio is better than some shit like WMP. You can't argue against that.
Foobar looks pretty good- I think it uses less memory than JetAudio, though am gonna stick with JA. You make a very good argument though. I may download FB some time.
As I have said, a media player easily syncing with an iPod means nothing to me, as I have said in the iPod thread, since I don't like them, but yes, Foobar is good for a lot of things and has the 'extras' for free, which JA does not.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-10-15 10:18 [#02245635]
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vista does support 5.1 sound fine. actually, it's interface for dealing with audio hardware is arguably one of the few improvements it made on xp. just right click on the speaker icon in your taskbar, select playback device, and choose whichever you wish. double clicking will give you access to all sorts of options and diagnostics, including the ever essential 5.1 speaker test.
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PS
on 2008-10-15 10:27 [#02245642]
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I like dragging that bar in iTunes and making all the album covers whiz by real fast.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-15 10:27 [#02245643]
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Yeah, you're right- not a massive improvement, and there aren't many options, but it is a slight mark of progress against XP.
Which OP do you have- Ultimate, Elite? because I only have Basic. That make any difference? A lot of people have complained, saying it doesn't work on laptops.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-10-15 10:47 [#02245647]
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i'm actually using TinyVista, a special hacked version made by the fine people at eXperience. it's vista ultimate at its core, but with all the fat trimmed off. it runs incredibly well on older boxes, and even better on newer ones ("omg really??"), and i have yet to run into any problems with missing components at all.
it strips out tons of unnecessary goop like windows messenger, msn messenger, windows media player, windows movie maker, those huge language files, drivers (what you can't download them yourself?), windows defender, sidebar and gadgets, and tons more, as well as some really great registry tweaks right out of the box (no autoplay, no 2 GIG memory requirement, etc)
it takes the entire vista install and crams it into one 699 mb cd burnable iso, and the final install folder is only 2.44 gigs (remember when your hard drive was that big?). oh and the install has all the newest updates slipstreamed, so no more waiting hours to download the newest service pack and 20,000 critical updates to go along with it. all in all, with my own personalized scripts to install all the drivers on my laptop, a fully functioning install of windows including ff3, firewall, antivirus and my entire ableton live dj setup can be done in under an hour and a a half with a solid 50 clicks maximum.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-10-15 10:49 [#02245648]
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oh, and all of this is done off of my 8 gig flash drive.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-15 13:33 [#02245715]
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Wow- quite a set up you got there, my friend!
I will definately have to look into that. very soon. It sounds just like what everyone should have got from the new Windows OS, rather than something worse, like most people actually got.
Do you think it is worth getting an updated Vista though, rather than just Linux? Surely you would prefer it. Nothing everything is compatible with it, but if you don't play games, that won't effect you.
Linux is certainly the future!
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freqy
on 2008-10-15 14:03 [#02245727]
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linux is now , and lovely.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-15 14:52 [#02245741]
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Indeed, indeed!
By the future I mean more people using it- It is about time that a well-meaning company (or community) that is actually good at what it does monopolised the OS market for a change!
When I compare free, sublime, community-driven Linux with shitty, universal, over-priced MS Windows, I actually vom' a little.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-10-15 15:49 [#02245785]
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I probably would be running some flavor of ubuntu if i didn't dj using ableton live.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-15 18:32 [#02245853]
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Yeah- compatibility sucks somtimes. =(
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2008-10-18 03:20 [#02246403]
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I probably would be running some flavor of ubuntu if i didn't use ableton live (or played games).
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