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offline ecnadniarb on 2008-08-30 20:10 [#02233233]
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I have been playing around with this over the last day and
was wondering could anybody tell me is there any way to
quantise midi recording as it is recording or does it have
to be done after the fact.
Also is there some kind of step recording like in Cubase?

I'm thinking about buying the full version but it is a lot
of money in these times of credit crunches and I want to be
sure it is the right thing to get like the reviews say.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2008-08-30 20:12 [#02233236]
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just download it illegally


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-08-30 20:14 [#02233239]
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you can set the record quantization to do it before.

also, if you create a midi clip and view it will be in
step/grid edit.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2008-08-30 20:15 [#02233240]
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I'm tired of virus' and buggy cracks.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2008-08-30 20:20 [#02233241]
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I can't find the record quantization option?

I have created a midi clip and whilst I have the piano roll
grid there doesn't appear to be a step record option?


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2008-08-30 20:21 [#02233242]
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what do you mean step record?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2008-08-30 20:24 [#02233243]
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Basically you set the note length/grid size and then each
note you tap on your pads/keyboard is entered and the marker
automatically moves forward one. As I say Cubase has it.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-08-30 20:28 [#02233244]
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it's not going to be classic step record where you tell it
the step length, hit the note and it goes to the next step.
It's grid edit, where you pencil in the notes/hits.

it might have it but i never saw it.

I'm not at home, but quantize is somewhere in the menus at
the top. I have 5.2 though so yours might be different.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2008-08-30 20:31 [#02233245]
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I think you're liooking for record quantization in Live, yes
i belive it has it. As you tap notes live, it will place
them to the closest grid point available, but I don't know
if you can set it so that your note will be automaticaly
after each's note next step. I dont know what you mean
with the Step-recording thing though, unless theres a video
on it.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2008-08-30 20:33 [#02233247]
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Nice one mate...just found the record quantize in the Edit
menu.

Shame about the step record though, it's something that I
actually used.

Overall though it seems a pretty nice package...just not
sure if I prefer it to Cubase yet.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-08-30 20:37 [#02233249]
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As you tap notes live, it will place them to the closest
grid point available


I think that is what he is looking for. A classic step
sequencer you set the note length, (1/16, 1/8, etc.) and tap
the key or pad and it places each hit at that note.

If you say it has that, cool. I've only ever used real time
and grid edit in Live. However, my Q and ASR-X both use the
tap style step sequencing.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-08-30 20:39 [#02233251]
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wait nm. i think thats just real time with record quantize
:P


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2008-08-30 22:06 [#02233264]
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Install the official demo, the one you can activate with a
legit serial if you buy. This will let you discover what's
buggy because it's cracked and what's Ableton bugs. Use it
for a couple of weeks doing one or two bar proof of concept
loops to see if it suits you and has the features you want.

It doesn't suit the way I work. I only ever finished two
things in it. If you don't have the kind of workflow Ableton
expects you to have, you'll find yourself not using most of
the program and fighting the parts you do use.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2008-08-31 18:40 [#02233516]
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That's what I've done and, at the moment, I don't think it
is exactly what I am after. It's fun but not really
productive.

Anyone with opinions on the latest versions of Logic and DP?
I'll buy a Mac if I have to.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2008-08-31 18:45 [#02233517]
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Or even Pro Tools?


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-08-31 18:58 [#02233520]
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i never tried something better than cubase, especially for
fx rendering on the fly and editing of audio files. i had
the last k'ed version for mac (1.6 sx) on my old g3 and
after upgrading to a macbook i still can't replicate the
flow that i had using it. i've tried dp, now using logic,
and i'm still planning to make a major mod on the g3 and
back to have serious fun.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-08-31 19:04 [#02233522]
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or, if you have the money, buy a mac and cubase 4.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2008-08-31 19:06 [#02233523]
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There was something about Cubase I didn't like. It felt like
I was fighting it a lot of the time but if I can't find
anything better I guess I will just upgrade to 4 and see how
I get on.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-08-31 19:11 [#02233526]
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if i got your point, you would have to fight more with other
programs


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2008-08-31 19:12 [#02233528]
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I beginning to think that...oh well.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2008-08-31 19:45 [#02233532]
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I find it best to use loads of programs/machines to make
music. None of them do everything you want and you are
forced into making music how those particular programmers
think/are capable of doing. Using different things
sometimes make it feel like a "band" are playing, Different
strengths and weaknesses rather than one homogenized thing.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2008-08-31 20:40 [#02233537]
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I know where you are coming from, the only problem I have is
that every cracked sequencer I have used in the past is
buggy as hell. I spent hours on stuff and lost it in a
tenth of a second due to a crash. I just thought if I spent
a little cash on a sequencer it would at least offer me a
stable base.



 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-08-31 22:18 [#02233543]
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this is free (untested)


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-08-31 22:33 [#02233544]
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woops sorry, not for peecee


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-09-01 04:11 [#02233566]
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We should discuss this over a Red bull.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2008-09-01 09:12 [#02233627]
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Try Reaper. It apparently has a step-sequencer entry
mode though I haven't tried that aspect of it.

The demo never expires, is fully functional (including save
and export) and only nags you once a day, the first time you
run it that day. Noncommercial license is 50 USD.

It does most of what Cubase does (the stuff I consider
important anyhow), in a 3 meg(!) installer that snaps open
almost as fast as notepad. Plus it has a built in scripting
language to write your own midi and audio effects /
processors.

I just finished my first medium size project in it. No
problems, no gotchas. Worked well with my plugins and sound
interface. I learned just enough to get the job done but
haven't really scratched the surface of what it can do.
Highly recommended.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2008-09-01 09:15 [#02233628]
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I mean, the program snaps open almost as fast as notepad,
not the installer. To the coffeemobile!


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-09-01 09:36 [#02233635]
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hey fleet, can it do offline plug in processing onto audio
files (you select a portion of an audio file and
preview/apply an fx without send/insert)?


 

offline evils on 2008-09-01 09:41 [#02233639]
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I would suggest it's crakt plugins that are making your
crakt copy of Cubase or Ableton crash, not the actual
programme itself. Just make sure all the plugins are stable
and the sequencers should work fine.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-09-01 10:14 [#02233649]
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aaah you use external audio editors in conjunction with it..
cool


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2008-09-01 10:54 [#02233673]
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I'll definitely give this a look. Cheers!


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2008-09-01 11:41 [#02233682]
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Yeah, use Wavosaur for that.

Also, Reaper has track freezing, which you can use for the
same thing. Saves CPU on big projects with hungry plugins.


 


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