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ChildrnsTalkn
on 2008-08-29 17:52 [#02233002]
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i grew up playing megaman as a kid, so i was excited to hear they were finally releasing what appears to be the last installment of the classical megaman series... sadly... i think the music is unimpressive, which was the main staple of the games legacy. megaman 9 appears to be an attempt to reinvigorate the nostalgia of what was a good game, but with megaman 9 it doesn't appear to have any new modifications in place. you'd think after so many years (since megaman 6, in 1993 the last to present the classical style) and with newer technology they could've added a bit of a twist to this game, so far it doesn't seem that way...
everyone who's played megaman knows the gameplay for megaman remained basically the same throughout the series, yet still managed to contain certain qualities for each game making them particularly original from the other. i haven't played MM9 so i can't say for sure what i think of it, but for now it appears to be a thumbs down. heres a sample of it on youtube
megaman 9
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-08-29 19:53 [#02233031]
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you haven't even played it and you're saying it's thumbs down? :)
growing up with the original games and being a fan of all the old 8-bit games, i'm really excited that capcom are even bothering to make another 8bit styled game. sure, they might only be doing it to milk the 8bit/chiptunes craze going around, but at least they're giving fans what they want.
i personally can't wait to play this game for the first time.
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ChildrnsTalkn
on 2008-08-29 22:48 [#02233054]
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i really wish for the best, in regards to video game music you dont get any better than capcoms electro music during the 90's.
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staz
on 2008-08-30 14:20 [#02233170]
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it's not electro
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IndigoIris
from New York (United States) on 2008-08-30 14:51 [#02233173]
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megaman music is the shit. they should make a megaman game for the wii or do they already have one?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2008-08-30 15:23 [#02233177]
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this looks RAW
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ChildrnsTalkn
on 2008-08-30 18:28 [#02233198]
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i can't call it jazz, although the music consists of jazz and rock, i prefer to go with video game-electro pop. what genre would you label megaman? (please dont tell me bitpop or chiptune)...
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2008-08-30 18:46 [#02233199]
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You didn't go with 'video game-electro pop' you stoatish liar.
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ChildrnsTalkn
on 2008-08-30 18:56 [#02233203]
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i said electro, electro entails various sub genre's. it can mean funk, hip hop, pop, etc...
dickhead
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2008-08-30 19:10 [#02233205]
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Yes, you said electro, you didn't say "video game-electro pop". Maybe in your daft brain electro means all those things.
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ChildrnsTalkn
on 2008-08-30 19:36 [#02233214]
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oh i get it. you're trying to be funny and a dick, if you go back to my original post, i said video game music, and electro
the fact that i didnt say pop doesn't change the fact you're a a dick, and head
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2008-08-30 19:44 [#02233219]
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You didn't say "Video" or "Electro" in your original post? Just be honest, that's the best way. There's no need to Lie.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2008-08-30 19:55 [#02233223]
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oh i get it you ' re trying 2 b phun & a penisssss . go back 2 moi original post wherein je said video game music & electro dick space head pop
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ChildrnsTalkn
on 2008-08-30 21:21 [#02233257]
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dick space head. *thumbs up*
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2008-08-30 23:45 [#02233272]
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heh jivver is fierce lately
ive noticed that
i like it
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-08-31 01:01 [#02233279]
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Of course of course... the pattern is so blatantly obvious... good stuff in past + easy money by parasitizing off its popularity = complete shit remake. Did you see the new star wars?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-08-31 01:05 [#02233281]
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I want one of those worms that burrows in your eye. Where do you get one?
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2008-08-31 08:07 [#02233366]
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I'm sorry dude, but when the developers say it's going to be the classic megaman, it IS going to be the fucking classic megaman without fucking twists or anything. If it had new twists like for example panning 3D Camera transitions or fucking blood and robot parts hitting the screen, it would not be classic megaman anymore. To me, the music still sounds the same old classic megaman music, and i like it. After loads of MM games, every game having quite a lot of different pieces of music, i'd think they'd go flat on the music a bit due to not having new inspiration anymore without making the music sound like another MM level tune, but so far i hear nothing but fresh bliss. Hell yeah i want to play this game :) and i'd like to find out for myself wether it sucks or not, thank you.
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ChildrnsTalkn
on 2008-08-31 09:50 [#02233382]
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i'm sorry i'm going to have disagree and here is why sorry excuse my lengthy monotonous explanation but there was no other way to get my point across as to why i was let down by the video. MM 1 was the first one, far be it from me to critique the original game. then MM 2 comes around, 2 shared a lot of the same things as 1, although 2 had a more defined feel than its predecessor and most importantly thats when the music began to take off. MM 3 & 4 is where the series began to evolve at least in regards to the things you could do with Megaman, he begins to slide, and i believe thats where they introduced Rush and so forth. this is the time and i think you would agree with me thats when classic megaman reaches its peak in regards to the quality, its music, style, gameplay etc... MM 5 had no momentum in the series although the music had improved (something i would think was impossible) the gameplay failed to deliver. finally MM 6 included the jump suit which enabled megaman to fly for the first time. now given all these things here comes my counter argument as to why i'm not impressed by the video and quite possibly the game
as you can see given my summary of the series that capcom always tried to preserve its image, while at the same time included modifications. all i'm saying i think after nearly one and a half decade they could've added a little bit of a twist (just as they've done in the past). i'm not saying they should add any of the things you mentioned but it wouldn't have hurt to perhaps carefully modify the game to pull in fans who are not all that familiar with the series. maybe even have it turned out into a Viewtiful Joe... ok just kidding thats a bit of a stretch but yeah i'm just not impressed with what i've seen so far. i haven't played the game you're right. i shouldn't be such a pessimist but after hearing what i heard and seeing what i saw, that youtube video failed to impress. i personally hold cautious expectations. any hardcore fan i think should, and thats just my gut fe
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ChildrnsTalkn
on 2008-08-31 09:50 [#02233383]
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eling
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-08-31 10:01 [#02233386]
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Well you know, don't play it.
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ChildrnsTalkn
on 2008-08-31 10:12 [#02233394]
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will you play it Indeksical, no wait *reaches towards the remote at the same time accidentally, we gaze into each others eyes, then turn away quickly*
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-08-31 11:11 [#02233405]
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I would turn away. I'd be worried about your sister getting jealous and ripping my throat out with her rotten mandibles.
I love you.
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2008-08-31 11:19 [#02233406]
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your complaining about the 8-bit revival of a 1980s series of videogame?
your idea of making something akin to viewtiful joe would be awful. Im glad capcom is going straight up 8-bit nintendo. its about time people stopped using shitty 3d graphics and went back to the basics in a major commercial game.
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ChildrnsTalkn
on 2008-08-31 11:45 [#02233413]
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no i dont want it to look anything like viewtiful joe, i was just being sarcastic. although it wouldn't hurt to add something different to the game, in the video i did see a clone of megaman, that might be something new i dont know... i'm still going to play the game with high expectations, hoping for a good ending to one of my fav. games.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-08-31 12:19 [#02233416]
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You... kind of have a point. I'd much rather something akin to Bionic Commando Re-Armed. Now that's some well done nostalgia milkage. Preferable to something a romhacker could whip up.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-08-31 13:34 [#02233437]
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Modern computing power should expand upon a classic game in a GOOD way, basically start over from scratch at the NES level and re-evolve in a different non 3d cookie cutter direction. Keep all the 8 bit feel but just saturate everything, like quadruple the different types of enemies, each enemy has much more interesting/intricate behavior, each enemy has multiple death animations/sounds randomly selected each time. Make the frame rate much faster to account for intricate quick animations (like one monster could have each eye/mouth/arms each in a separate animation loop out of phase with eachother so it constantly looks weirdly 8 bit organic) etc
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ChildrnsTalkn
on 2008-08-31 14:36 [#02233447]
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i couldn't say it better myself. what you said sounds like the voice of reason, something that appears capcom failed to do.
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-08-31 16:41 [#02233491]
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wMw's description sounds pretty awesome, i think. i'm also going to have to say that megaman2 was actually the games peak in regards to quality :) the game that had no dog, chargable gun, or flying/muscle suits. unless capcom do end up releasing a game that has some gameplay twist none of us know about, i think they're making a game with the simplicity of megaman2, before all the crazy other stuff was added.
besides, at least it'll be better than this.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2008-08-31 16:50 [#02233493]
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wait, won't MM9 put rush on you as a suit instead of using it as a jump platform or a rocket?
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2008-08-31 16:54 [#02233494]
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I don't think you should expect so much of an 8bit revival of a game, it's not that everything old is better with a splendid slab of 3D slapped against it. I think you're just used too more newer games, and perhaps spoiled. What 'gaming era' are you from?
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-08-31 17:02 [#02233495]
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not that everything old is better with a splendid slab of 3D slapped against itLAZY_TITLE
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ChildrnsTalkn
on 2008-08-31 17:05 [#02233498]
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i was born in 1982, dont get me wrong i love 8 bit (i collect e-boy art) ; but at the same time i would've liked something perhaps like cover
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ChildrnsTalkn
on 2008-08-31 17:07 [#02233499]
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my previous post got obliterated because of the link, anyways this is what i had posted:
i was born in 1982, dont get me wrong i love 8 bit (i collect e-boy art) ; but at the same time i would've liked something perhaps like paper mario for this game, but not to the extreme of paper mario... my description isn't all that great, but i liked the ideas wMw proposed. on a side note the cover for the game looks great. which leads me to believe that maybe theres more to it...
cover
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-08-31 17:10 [#02233500]
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you talking about super paper mario for the wii?
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ChildrnsTalkn
on 2008-08-31 17:34 [#02233502]
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i never played that game, i had played "paper mario: the thousand-year door", in mind... but i'm sure they are very similar, except the thousand year door is an rpg. i think the one you posted is an adventure game.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2008-08-31 17:35 [#02233503]
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oh i can just feelthe smooth model movements opposed to the crunchy 8-bit frame-by-frame animation... ew :(
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ChildrnsTalkn
on 2008-08-31 17:48 [#02233504]
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yeah it is smooth, i think they go for the 'flowing feathery' feel to the game, hence the name of the game. although i think with some changes capcom can get that heavy pixelated feel you're referencing. i agree in the sense that 'crunchy' interface must be in place or else there wont be anything classical about the game really... i also wouldn't want the game to be like that entirely, but only for certain aspects of the game, like maybe when you fight a boss or something... viewtiful joe made good use of the 3d side scrolling.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2008-08-31 18:54 [#02233519]
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I don't know, i think that when i get told it's an 8-bit remake, i'd quickly lose the feeling of the 8-bit game i was expecting because of such 'new-age' aspects (if i can call them that) and thus feel abit lied to. And besides, i really WANT a second Megaman 2 game with a new weapon ability like Rush clamping onto your armor, not the new age 3d remake crap, that's what we have Bionic Commando for imo ;)
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-08-31 19:08 [#02233525]
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i'll buy a new generation console if that happens
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-09-01 00:36 [#02233549]
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I have the megaman anniversary collection. i have tbh i tend towards the later ones like 8. i was a kid in 86 and enjoyed nes games just fine, but now going back i think snes era is the sweet spot for me. its still 2d and plays more or less like nes but the graphics are just nice enough. i think the later ones are a tad less frustrating too gameplay wise.
that being said, when it comes to ghouls & ghosts/ghost & goblins or contra, i prefer the original nes versions to the super versions.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-09-01 00:58 [#02233550]
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well, mm8 was for ps1 and sega saturn, but it still has the 16 bit look and feel of snes. 2d but superized.
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-09-01 01:36 [#02233552]
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you serious? i couldn't play mm8. the levels were just massive and all over the place. it totally didn't feel like a mega man game for me :(
thinking about what wMw posted, it sounds more like what an indie game developer would do. not something a major company would be able to pull off with a full proper game (though i would absolutely love it)
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-09-01 02:06 [#02233553]
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MOTHER FUCKER! the tentative release date for mega man 9 in australia is first of november! :F
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