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i don't see what's good about it |
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ur a gullable minded tosser. u think theres a shortcut to everthing. probably including quality of your fucking music. so if we need any fucking proof youre wrong it is that. |
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lol |
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Dobbin bravely comes out AGAINST consciousness, as usual. Fight the good fight, soldier. |
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I immediately see stuff like this as irrelevant the second they use terms like chakra and karma and whatever to explain their point. You can't use spiritual theories as grounds of explaining things. |
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Most people just don't know what consciousness is. |
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*flashes forward to clip of narrator with constipation grabbing tight to the toilet* |
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everythings pure consciousness - i think the chakra system is supposed to symbolize different levels of consciousness. i dont know much about it. dont know much about karma either |
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I hear you saying all this romanticised stuff, but what do you say about a small child or baby getting raped then shot in the head? |
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the baby and the other person co-created the experience. the experience happened. what more could one say? the human body's like a tool for experience. it is made of pure consciousness in order to experience things |
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Is your consciousness touching the ground? |
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isn't that just being objective about an issue outside of you like that, all the while being romantically involved with your own spirituality. i think Raz0rBlade_uk threw that at you because it's not something you can objectively comment on when for arguments sake, you're on a spiritual subject that fascinates you that can't be applied that scenerio because it's outside of you. |
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Spinoza said that mind and matter were attributes of substance. By substance he meant not matter, but beingness. So consciousness permeates all being. It's as accurate to say that the experience created the people as that the people created the experience. The world of man is substance dreaming about humans. |
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yeah. all that vid says is that time and space are energies enabling forms to take physical "particularized" shapes, and that since time is compressing - physical manifestations, events, "possibilities" are manifesting into space "quicker" - since there is less time. i dont know why you brought up the thing about the baby being raped and shot in the head to be honest, i dont see what it has to do with what that vid was talking about i have to admit |
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Well TBH I think those videos are the worst kind of bafflegab and dreck but I think it's important not to dismiss spiritual matters and metaphysics just because people talk nonsense about them. Read the (Feng and English trans.) for Best Metaphysics. This video is just narration for a laser show at the Shirley McClain planetarium. |
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If you're actually interested in consciousness, phenomenology is a good way to go. Try Merleau-Ponty first. His use of language isn't as cryptic as Husserl or Heidegger, so you won't need an “introduction to phenomenology” book. Husserl's “Cartesian Meditations” is also good if you want to take it from the start, but already there, certain language difficulties could arise. |
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it's because it has nothing to do with anything you talk about is the exact reason i brought it up. all these ideas of consciousness and natural progression to a higher plane of existence are very hard to understand when you look at the harsher realities of the world. |
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"are very hard to understand when you look at the harsher realities of the world" -yes my son,is natural to fear the unknow,as much as you fear as much as you love,so dont worry and be happy. |
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thanks daddy! |
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they aren't hard to understand! whats happening is time is compressesing, and therefore the "past" and the "future" are get smashed together. "now" and "then" are getting smashed together. the "time" it takes for a thought to be manifested in physical reality is faster, because there is less "time". or, maybe what is happening is that we are manifesting our thoughts into physical reality at higher densities and with much more speed, and the result of that is that less "time" is needed, so time seems to fly by. time thins out.there is less of it what it means for beings of consciousness such as us is that we can change the 'harsh realities' of the world at the speed of our thought when we embrace an accelerated consciousness. |
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easier said than done i imagine |
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That's exactly the point. What you imagine is what you will experience. All experiences are valuable as you have and will use the energies of time and space in order to create those experiences. Thoughts do not exist within time/space - they have to be demonstrated in physical reality. They are "proven" by being demonstrated, and therefore ARE. Youll imagine "easier said than done" - then prove it by the condition actually being easier said than done. LOL SOme people think that in 2012 - time and space will no longer be necessary tools for bringing thought into physical manifestation. That's what the vid is about. Heres some footage from my favorite video game ever |
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what if i were to imagine that what you imagine IS NOT what you experience? |
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god hand IS higher consciousness what an awesome game that is |
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then i think you would experience that. assuming the theory's correct; why wouldnt you? if the theory's incorrect, then i dont know. there are lots of theories BoxBob: God Hand is my religion |
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That's useless: Assuming any theory is correct implies that what the theory predicts is correct. The question is whether the theory is correct or not; why should it be? To determine that, you first have to know what, exactly, it is the theory is claiming. What does it mean when you say that time is compressing? What is time, and how does it compress? If time was compressing, and you were a being in time, how would you determine its compression? If time compresses, that doesn't mean that there is “less” time, but that the same amount of time takes up less of whatever it was it used to take up. What is time taking up? How and in what way does a thought manifest in physical reality? Is a thought ever not in physical reality? What “realm” contrasts physical reality? How can you manifest a thought with higher density and how does this relate to time? Are thoughts only in time until you manifest them in physical reality? How do they cross the realms? If you manifest your thoughts at a higher speed, this doesn't mean that time compresses, it just means that the process of manifesting your thoughts take less time, but why should time be a measure of these processes, and why should it be so essential to this “insight?” |
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what a fucking terrible video. these videos always feature those fucking droning voices of posturing ASSHOLES who specialise in making this muck up. cygnus, come on now |
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what if i were to imagine that what you imagine IS NOT what you experience? that your intentions affect to me depends the love vibration that i carry on my thoughts,then my experience. probably thats why voodoo works... |
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you so crazy |
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are you experiencing anticipatory events and if so - would you tell out on the internet? |
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sometimes when i smoke a lot of weed, a whole dipset mixtape flies back in five minutes. |
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where is illfates surely he |
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"everythings pure consciousness - i think the chakra system is supposed to symbolize different levels of consciousness. i dont know much about it. dont know much about karma either" Look it up in books and the internet. find differing views and weigh it all up in your own mind. Then question it again. Then you can post some more shit that is truly what you think you think. |
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you think so? |
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Yes, that's why I typed it. |
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i typed the original post in this thread like months ago, since then ive read lots of u.g. krishnamurti ? |
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No I haven't. I'm not the one posting daft shit. (I am 99% of the time) |
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youre so edgy i can shave with your posts |
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i like this, thanks. |
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You don't need to shave, you're part native american. Has revspersona recieved your machinedrum? |
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people |
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hey cygnus, which UGK books have you read? |
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I just want to drop my consciousness thesis.. First off, I really loved fleetmouse's way of saying it, substance dreaming about humans, however, during that dreaming, how does one define what is real and what isn't? Does the substance become human, or is it all just a dream? Without consciousness in the universe, nothing would mean anything. So all these values we as humans add to the world, do they shape the universe, or are they just local phenomena in the brain that do not mean anything, and how can we separate these when we are subjective ourselves? Second off, nobody knows the mechanism for which consciousness works off. If there is a physical mechanism, then when we know this we can start to manipulate it to become smarter in any way we see fit, assuming there is a mechanism of course. Consciousness in the end is nothing more than an association box. You get some stimuli, the brain cross checks stored memories, releases chemicals, gives you an emotion, a thought, and off you go. That's why we're all so different, because there's no concrete real way to see anything. I actually don't believe much in philosophy, I do believe it can help us to eloquently phrase certain things we learn, but most of it isn't necessarily /truth/ Truth is something we cannot touch I think, not even with science. On one end of the spectrum, truth is everywhere, I am looking at this monitor, and thus truth is it exists, on the other end of the spectrum, I can't really in any way /prove/ that this monitor exists. I can show someone else, but I can't prove that they are conscious to see it too. I can never prove anyone elses consciousness, one can only do that through ones own experience, and even then it is questionable.. And then you see that the problem of consciousness isn't just definition, it's also the barrier between language and abstract thinking.. Well im running out of space now, bbl |
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ive read mind is a myth, mystique of enlightenment, sage and the housewife (the most brutal one of all),thought is your enemy, and 3 other ones i think. thought is your enemy is a pretty brutal one, too. they are all very brutalizing and will engage you. i sat immobile, in some sort of vegetative state for close to half a day after i read "No Way out" - the books are just napalm i reccomend "no way out" |
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seriously, the fact that we're all here watching this moniotor makes me think A) we're all the same B) we're all well tuned C) nothing else |
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