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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-03-24 17:07 [#00139322]
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i was just wondering is the pioneer of the the whole 'drill&bass' genre. are the songs on HAB consider the first drill&bass songs?
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-03-24 17:20 [#00139346]
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i kinda wondered that myself
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-24 17:43 [#00139382]
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no... luke vibert was prolly the first to release what we now know as drill n bass..
as plug.. squarepusher came not long after that...though he was prolly doing it at the same time luke was...
richard is good friends with both...and was probably inspired by them
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-24 17:45 [#00139386]
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so...check out plug's 'drum n bass for papa' (with the plug ep's) and squarepusher's 'burningn n tree' for what were probably the first true 'drill n bass' tracks
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-03-25 01:19 [#00140414]
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thanx for the info wayout. i'll check out the plug stuff. i only have one luke vibert cd 'Big Soup'
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-03-25 01:20 [#00140416]
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Why do you hate mashed potatoes?
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-03-25 01:25 [#00140422]
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oh get me another tie, get me another shirt, get me another ...?? eeevverrrryyyddddaayyyy.
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-03-25 01:26 [#00140424]
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Wooly
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-03-25 01:30 [#00140428]
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Well Both Hangable Autobulb 1 and Drum and Bass for Papa both came out in the same year (1996).
Is there anything of RDJ's before that that could be considered Drill 'N Bass? What about Tom Jenkinson?
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-03-25 01:31 [#00140429]
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Start as you Mean to go on from ICBYD borders on drill n' bass
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-03-25 01:33 [#00140433]
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I love that track
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-03-25 01:34 [#00140434]
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me too, it's fooking great, and I do believe it is somewhat drill n bass, with that ambient background, ohhhh it's so good
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-25 01:38 [#00140441]
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true, but the second disc of 'dnb for papa' was a compilation of the plug ep's...which were previously released..
same thing with burningn n tree...its a comp of sp's singles from spymania...most of which came out in 95 i believe
and as far as i know... HAB was the first appearence of rdj's 'drill n bass'
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-03-25 02:43 [#00140512]
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interesting, you are probably right.
who knows when RDJ wrote the HAB tracks tho =), that we'll never know.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-03-25 03:13 [#00140558]
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I made some drill and bass tracks back in '92, at the age of 10. I lost the fucking MP3 player I had all my tracks on!!! Dammit.
Yes, I had an MP3 player in '92...
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-03-25 03:16 [#00140561]
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i made some drill & bass bout 2-3 years ago
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Ubik
from United States on 2002-03-25 05:11 [#00140631]
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Conumber by Squarepusher came out in 1995
HAB came out in November 1995
Plug 1 and 2 came out in 1995, thou it doesnt seem as 'drill' more than just really cool drum and bass.
mu-ziq, was as usual, a couple years behind (yeah, i'm mean)
do any of these artists use the term drill and bass???
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-25 05:34 [#00140636]
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heh... i doubt it...terms like that are usually created by journalists and used by fans...and journalists...
its funny, most artists involved in sub-genres tend resent the sub-genre's title..
mostly because they tend to resent music journalism in general...
i think most of those artists prefer the older, more general term 'jungle' (even though this too was created by lazy/racist journalists) or at least thats what they refer to it as in the few instances i've seen them talk about their music in interviews
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-03-25 08:47 [#00140730]
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no, it wasnt luke vibert either....... squarepusher was doing it before AFX was I know that for a fact. I dunno about Luke Vibert and his history with the stuff.... although I have tons of his cds and such..... but im positive none of these artists started the genre.
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-03-25 09:05 [#00140750]
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73 yips!!!:)
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-03-25 09:20 [#00140767]
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take caustic windows tracks and speed them up you got oldschool drill'nbass...
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