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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-30 21:12 [#02169675]
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What is up with this piece of shit software?
I spend my money on a new Macbook and actually BUY Ableton Live 7, like some kind of stupid tool pissshitter, only to find that there's audio glitches and that it makes ugly sounds when, wow, more than TWO loops are playing which have a couple of effects/pitch shiftings/tempo changes going on. At the beginning of each repeat of some loops, there is a big, fat, annoying CLICK.
I never had this problem on my cracked version of Ableton 5.2 on my slow arse Viao PC. What a waste of money. That ran/runs 230.6% better than this infected toenail muck.
And then there's Cakewalk Sonar 7, which works like a mite-infested pair of raped tits in comparison with version 3.
Everything I've bought recently has ended up being WORSE than its older brothers.
Stick to your old software if it's working for you, I guess, is the "message". I hate it when you get this stuff in the mail - and you're all excited - you rush to start it up, smell the nice laptop box hmmmm. Load up the software, eyes wide and hopeful like a sexed up dog bitch, only to find that it FUCKING DOESN'T WORK.
whinge...
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-30 21:14 [#02169676]
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Yep, old movies, old videogames, old music, old software are all better. Ooh, have you tried the new windows vista?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-01-30 21:15 [#02169677]
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did you run any buffer test already? just guessing..
i upgraded to leopard a few days ago and i didn't install any audio software yet.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-01-30 21:24 [#02169679]
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Mommy, Where Do Servers Come From?
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Sano
on 2008-01-30 21:25 [#02169680]
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I'm still grooving in win2k. It's common sense that just because it has an higher version number it does not necessarily mean that it's better than the previous versions.
Why didn't you try the trial/demo versions before buying?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-01-30 21:41 [#02169688]
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i dont really like ableton anymore im probably going to uninstall it soon
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-30 21:46 [#02169689]
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Well, I just fell in love with version 5 for live performance and thought I might as well buy it for my faster mac, so when I saw 7 was out I stupidly just... got it. Made sense then. I should have probably read up on it, because the ableton forums are teaming with people having problems with 7.
Then again, it's been behaving itself better now - no more clicks. Until the next patch, then...
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-01-30 22:25 [#02169693]
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yeah dont go berserk man, first of all its just software, and its still in beta-fucking-testing, they dont even know what they created man. The new slicing capabiliteis is fucking crazy. it makes fruity loops and all the other crazy shits obsolete, just wait and learn about ableton more before you're unhappy that it doesnt work.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-01-30 22:30 [#02169694]
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the thing i hate is the whole You CAN register two computers, but you cant use them at the same time." bullshit. I WANT TO SYNC TWO COMPUTERS TOGETHER
they make it impossible, killing all midi interface uses. and the MIDI/Sync Preferences is just fucking not there at all. it's just yellow lights and blinking colors, yay.
i think i want them to hire me.
i think it drived me to kill my MOTU fastlane thing, from repeatedly connecting and disconnecting my USB wires.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-30 22:41 [#02169697]
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They don't even know what they created! They don't even know what they created! They don't even know what they created! They don't even know what they created! They don't even know what they created! They don't even know what they created! They don't even know what they created! They don't even know what they created! They don't even know what they created! THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW!!!
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-01-30 22:41 [#02169698]
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Ableton looks like the program is controlling the music rather than you controlling the music. I'm not an expert but it seems like that a little. Ive never used it extensively though.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-01-30 22:43 [#02169699]
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I liked Ableton at first then discovered it is designed to be really convenient and easy to do things that I don't want to do.
It is like one of those plastic chairs that is molded in the shape of someone else's ass.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-01-30 22:48 [#02169705]
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haha.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-01-30 22:48 [#02169706]
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As far as computer stuff goes I think renoise is the most impressive program Ive come across.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-01-30 22:49 [#02169707]
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yeah if someone's using ableton, and theyre letting it do all the work plus laziness and no creativity, you can simply say,
"That sounds really Ableton"
Live 7 is like Frankenstein's monster
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-30 22:56 [#02169709]
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Well, I never use it to compose actual tracks (although I'm sure great things could be done with it), but live it is wonderful because of the on-the-fly decisions that you can make. Other sequencers don't offer that.
You're right, pulseclock, the new features are v. nice, but it is more unstable than older versions.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-01-30 22:57 [#02169710]
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what do you use to compose with?
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-30 23:03 [#02169713]
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Cakewalk Sonar, and sometimes Pro Tools in the final stages of things.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2008-01-30 23:10 [#02169716]
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what?! they wrecked out the midi/sync preferences?
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-31 00:24 [#02169732]
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I stuck with Live 5 for ages, illegally, and only just bought Live 7. I love it... but it does need a bug fix. Those CPU spikes are deadly and I almost couldn't save a set thanks to demo mod on Operator.
It's not that practical at the mo, but it'll get better, we just need to wait.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-31 00:38 [#02169745]
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Yes, it's the CPU spikes that causing the annoying sound artifacts. I'm not even pushing it as hard as I did 5, and I was running 5 on a computer that's half the speed of the Macbook.
But I am glad you love it, I feel I could love it one day too. When it's patched up I will enjoy its sexy company.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-01-31 01:37 [#02169764]
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are you using the asio drivers?
actually, are there even asio drivers for mac? i've never actually run any music software on my macbook - i just boot camp into windows xp to run ableton because the mac crack is hellof unreliable.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-01-31 01:42 [#02169765]
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so yeah i just check and there certainly are mac asio drivers, so double check youre using those (under preferences > audio > audio device)
also, ableton fucking kicks asssss. it doesn't fit fleetmouse's bum because mine slides in there so comfortably.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-01-31 03:56 [#02169830]
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Kinda worries me, that you say that. I was going to buy that exact setup - MacBook and Ableton live 7.
I just really like the interface, and the sequencer does what it needs to do for me.
Any idea when a new patch will arrive?
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-31 04:25 [#02169835]
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Hmm. You should look into it a little more - I'm sure its fixable.
I'm using ableton 7/macbook combo and its really really smooth. Completely bugless in fact, so far at least.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2008-01-31 05:26 [#02169847]
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just wait until your MacBook overheats in about 6 months time and breaks down due to a Logic Board Failure
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2008-01-31 05:28 [#02169848]
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I feel that Live is nice to "groove" in, but I don't like making tracks in it. But it's great for jamming.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2008-01-31 05:28 [#02169849]
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you don't need ASIO drivers in Mac OS X
Mac OS X has Core Audio
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-31 06:26 [#02169853]
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^^ yep, as soon as i plug my edirol fa-101 into my mac, it just hooked me up, no drivers needed, sweet!!
btw i use logic 8 and it's pretty cool, does what i need it to do and can be customized, cpu efficient etc get some UB software a few plugins you got the shit you need to lay down some shit
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-31 06:26 [#02169854]
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shit!!
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2008-01-31 06:27 [#02169855]
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Mommy, Where Do Servers Come From? is pretty funny :D
I grabbed the demo disc with version 6 lite and 7. I thought it was cool until I found out it's 400 bucks or so. That's money I could be buying food and clothes with so that's not the route I want to go :D
I did however get a free copy of 6 LE and my buddy and I recorded one song with it. It's pretty good! I like the fact that I'm using the LE/demo legit instead of uber high ticket ableton or cracked ableton.
Sorry you spent so much on it !
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-31 07:47 [#02169865]
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these are very true words,i love you.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2008-01-31 09:33 [#02169935]
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I use ableton 3 still
I like it.
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