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offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-15 20:01 [#02164005]
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How about whoever wants to tries to make their own original
song(s), but specifically try to emulate the overall
style/quality/feel of these 2 diddy kong racing tracks as
best as you can:

Frosty Village
and
Pirate Lagoon

By that I mean try to make your own approximately minute-ish
long loop that is similarly assembled from catchy, colorful,
entertaining parts with a similarly slightly fast pace and
similar simultaneous melodic lines (polyphony)- you know
just basically try to make it similar in style but original,
and loop back to the beginning. Doing this is quite hard for
me anyway, and I wonder how hard it is for others.

And hopefully reveal information about your the creative
process you used, such as whether you started with a series
of chords first, or whether you make a main melody first (I
think I might try both attempts), etc. Even if it ends up
sucking I'd be interested in hearing it because I'm
interested in what works and what doesn't.

Or if you think this is a shit idea, just type 'go to hell'
or do nothing or do whatever you want.

Sincerely,
Snuggle Slug


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2008-01-15 21:21 [#02164020]
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*does whatever he wants*


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2008-01-15 21:22 [#02164021]
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but for serious, it's a nice idea mr. slug. I'd like to
participate but I need a midi keyboard. I can't make music
with just a mouse like some people can.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-15 21:29 [#02164023]
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Using a midi keyboard is a good point that I don't often
think of, and could be a huge advantage over entering it
manually in modplug. I should get one eventually.


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-01-15 22:06 [#02164027]
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i might try. but i'm 100% sure it'll turn out sounding like
a shit :)


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2008-01-15 22:13 [#02164028]
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for some odd reason i have the mario kart 64 soundtrack


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-01-15 22:38 [#02164031]
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wmw, do you have any previosly attempted tracks?
what im working on atm is, no doubt, sounding like shit xD


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-15 22:48 [#02164032]
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:) Mine is definately going to sound like shit to. My brain
is missing melody neurons. I havn't made my attempt yet, but
have listened to those tracks a lot trying to form a
gameplan on how the hell to tie it all together.

I used to think making the main melody line first (then
chords later) is the best way, but after listening to those
tracks, they seem to have series of chords that are fairly
simple repetitive patterns. And it might be easier to get
the chords into those simple patterns if you start with them
first.

Also as far as I know the chords just seem to be 'loose
guides' for which notes can be played within the timespan of
that chord. Like MOSTLY the melody is constructed of the
same chord notes but certainly not ONLY those notes. Really
I have no clue, and my best attempts have been ignoring all
theory and just doing what sounds the best. This stuff seems
like it should be easy but grasping it has been surprisingly
elusively difficult for me.


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-01-15 22:55 [#02164033]
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haha fuck, i didn't have a plan..


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-01-15 23:24 [#02164036]
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here's my entry.
it's fucken horrendous. really.
anyway.. i tried to make it melodic and jam packed full of
cheesy isntruments.
the actual loop only goes for about 30 seconds too.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-15 23:35 [#02164039]
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:D
That really is not too bad at all, plus made impressively
quickly and will likely be better than mine. It was quite
fun just to see what you would make, I was loling. Do you
use a midi keyboard and what software did you use?


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-01-15 23:40 [#02164041]
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haha yeah. tried to make it as quickly as possible really
:D
that was all reason 3.0..
used a midi keyboard for most of it, though that's only for
working certain parts out. alot of arranging and cleaning up
is done by hand.
glad it got a lol :)


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2008-01-15 23:56 [#02164045]
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love the new av, pigster


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-01-16 00:11 [#02164046]
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I would love to enter this, but I just don't have these sort
of harmonies in me. Plus I hate the two title
tracks.

Looking foward to hearing the results... Pigster, yours is
very good (albeit still annoying as hell- not your fault).


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-01-16 00:22 [#02164048]
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hahaha! thanks. i hate the original two tracks but i
still gave it a go. i'm looking forward to what people come
up with, it's a hilarious idea to work with.

zephyr twin> you just can't go wrong with a kraftwerk styled
soft toy.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-16 00:34 [#02164050]
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Aw man, I love the two title tracks and want to
impose my subjectivity on everyone. I can listen to those
loop for millions of years. What the hell is wrong with you?


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-01-16 00:46 [#02164052]
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haha, i love most video game music. but the midi based n64
just doesn't have any charm for me. that stuff is just..
nasty :)


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-01-16 01:24 [#02164056]
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Those tracks are just unrelentingly upbeat and annoying. I
could see some worker at a theme park listening to that all
day and going home and suffocating his kids and hanging
himself. They're that bad. I listened to them again
just now, to make sure, and I had to light up a cigarette.
The tunes caused this slow tension that made every muscle in
my upper body flex tightly.

Here's some good, catchy and well composed old
school midi from Monkey Island.

kisses


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-01-16 01:29 [#02164057]
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I also really like the music from Sonic 1.


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-01-16 01:46 [#02164060]
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oh man, that song is so nice. there's almost something wrong
about it, but it sounds so nice.
megaman 2 will always be my favourite video game
soundtrack.
pure awesome


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-01-16 01:51 [#02164062]
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That's dope, I like how every element is in rapid fire.



 

offline 1up from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-16 03:24 [#02164087]
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robocop on the spectrum had the best music. fact. they even
used it for an ariston washing machine advert. midnight
resistance was also good.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2008-01-16 03:58 [#02164092]
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Yes, some crazy shit right here.


 

offline 1up from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-16 04:36 [#02164098]
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good god, i never thougt i'd see that advert ever again. i
was beginning to doubt that i ever saw it in the first
place. thanks.


 

offline Chihiro from twins land on 2008-01-16 07:27 [#02164128]
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pure awesome indeed!!! thanks for this, im actually playing
the game a lot these days. i love it


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2008-01-16 07:53 [#02164136]
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excellent thread

heres one i made earlier.
i keep thinking of a racer accelerating and accelerating
until he crosses the finish line and keeps racing
without the motor sound...


 

offline PS on 2008-01-16 07:59 [#02164138]
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Let's say someone hasn't made much music on their comp,
besides the occassional ambient dreamscape. What's a small
starter program you'd recommend to them, shareware or
otherwise, to make sounds like RC Pro Am?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2008-01-16 08:07 [#02164139]
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Get fruityloops, then download this,
this and this.

Some of the best stuff for old nintendo sounds, short of a
midines, IMO.


 

offline PS on 2008-01-16 08:31 [#02164150]
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Fruityloops it is, thanks for the links!

Great tune, ijonspeches!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2008-01-16 08:42 [#02164154]
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You're welcome. Lots of people here use floops, so if you're
having trouble after doing the tutorials, just post and
someone will be able to help.


 

offline staz on 2008-01-16 09:22 [#02164168]
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too much

text


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-01-16 09:30 [#02164171]
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make your own short little song that sounds like diddy kong
racing.


 

offline jkd from Twitch City (Canada) on 2008-01-16 13:17 [#02164225]
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Here's my attempt. It's only 20 secs long, and it's pretty
much a total failure, but ah well.

LAZY_MP3



 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-01-16 18:56 [#02164280]
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fuck, that reeeally reminds of diddy kong racing!


 

offline jkd from Twitch City (Canada) on 2008-01-16 19:08 [#02164282]
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Reeeally?


 

offline jkd from Twitch City (Canada) on 2008-01-16 19:10 [#02164283]
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Aww where's em dubya em?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-16 19:54 [#02164296]
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pigster- I actually think this wouldn't feel too out of
place in 'mega bomberman' for genesis

ijonspeaches- thanks, this is interesting. The chord notes
and other melody sound great, but only by themselves in my
opinion. When together they don't quite sound in 'harmony'
somehow with eachother (note-wise). But the actual
pattern/beat/shape of the melody sounds fine in relation to
the chords. Maybe the notes just need tweaking to 'fit' the
pitches of the chords, not that I know how to do that. This
is exactly what's happened to me so far. I put down a chord
progression that sounds fine by itself then made a melody on
top. At the time it seemed fine, but then I relisten a half
hour later and ugh delete it. Somehow these videogame track
creators arrange notes of any complexity and just cast some
sort of 'auto harmony' spell on all of it and it all sounds
perfect.

jkd- this sounds pretty 'correct' to me. Did you make the
main melody or the chords first (I assume those bass notes
exactly follow the chord structure)?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-16 19:56 [#02164297]
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I spelled ijonspeches w r o n g . ijon's peaches.


 

offline jkd from Twitch City (Canada) on 2008-01-16 20:11 [#02164302]
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I wrote the chords first (i.e. the bass), then the melody.
The chords are really polka-dot-door and the melody was
found by just randomly riffing over the chords as they
repeated.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-01-17 00:37 [#02164339]
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The race is underway! from my vantage point it looks like
Pigster has a solid lead.

1. Pigster
2. jkd
3. ijonspeches (I actually like yours best but it doesnt
quite go with the theme.)
4. Pirate Lagoon
5. Frosty Village.

w M w is back there somewhere, he hasn't used his power
boost yet so he could easily make his way to the front of
the race any second now.

I'll just be the little toad that throws you guys mushrooms.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-17 00:45 [#02164341]
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I think I need to read the game manual some more, and I'm
still trying to figure out how to use the shoulder buttons
on this controller.


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2008-01-17 08:36 [#02164420]
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thanks for the feedback,
maybe im not being objective,
but it seems to go well with each other for me.

btw here
is a huge database for midi files of videogame music
plenty good music for ages, also good for remixing.
i tried to make a donkey kong "jungle" remix,
but im stuck after the first minute...


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-17 14:48 [#02164585]
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Holy crap, that site is awesome Thanks

This turned out better than I thought I guess after multiple
restarts. It still lacks a main catchy melody I guess (and
still not good enough quality or long enough), maybe because
I started with chords first:
w M w power boosts in the wrong direction.


 

offline jkd from Twitch City (Canada) on 2008-01-17 21:12 [#02164684]
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Not too shabby... I like.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-01-18 00:03 [#02164708]
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You should give yourself a bit more credit, your melodic
structure is good here, and it's usually good in general. I
don't think this track quite fits with the diddy kong racing
nightmares you posted earlier (it's not as annoying to me),
at least it dosent fit as well as Pigster's track. But it's
still fun.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-18 00:25 [#02164711]
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It mostly sucks and I lose the race, but.. the good
news is that I was Conker the Squirrel (he totally has a
penis in his wikipedia picture).

Goodbye for now *poof*


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2008-01-18 14:15 [#02164914]
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hilarious tune there,
downloaded that one :)


 


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