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Radiohead is obvious and well documented, and now Blur is going the electronic route... poorly. Their new album (leaked out ever so sneakily) isn't very good. Tortoise's ''Standards'' has some electronic edge... but doesn't stray too far from their usual jazzy shtick. What are some gee-tar bands that augment their sounds with newfangled pretentious electro-wank? |
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do portishead count? |
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Am I mis-understanding you,are you saying Radiohead's new album is pretentious elctro-wank? |
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I wouldn't say Blur's are "going the electronic route" on their new album. Not to a great extent, anyway. |
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It would appear that you are indeed misunderstanding him. But perhaps I should leave Ophecks himself to answer that. Ahem. |
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Yes. They haven't done anything recently though, have they? Actually, Allmusic.com says they have something called ''Alien'' from 2002... no rating. What is this, I've only got their first and their self-titled. |
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Maybe I will offend some people stating this. But I think radiohead's jump to electronic music was a desperate attempt to stay alternative. Their music became mainstream, so they just jumped into electronic music, and it just sounds a lot like music soms IDM/electronic acts were doing 10 years before them... But maybe I am the only one who sees it like this |
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you're not the only one ophecks-i dont know nothing about that release either |
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I was just being ironic, I think Radiohead are Gods and I dig electronic rockers. |
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you aren't the only one, but i'd say you're wrong. radiohead ain't idm. they're electronic stuff sounds basic and danceable. godspeed have some electro tint to their stuff, as does sigur ros. |
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Rock bands use synths and other gear sometimes, I dont see any bad in that :) It expands the genre. I just hate it when people tell me electronic music sux because it sounds allways the same, allways the same sounds... yeah... Your music sounds more versatile when you use a guitar, a bass, a drum set and a microphone for all your music. And besides that? what is a distortion? Its a piece of electronica... *sigh* wake up! Rock is electronica! (and thats when most of my metal friends walk away pissed ;) ) |
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Simian. Most noticeably on 'The Wisp' |
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If you read closely I didnt actually state they ARE IDM. I said they jumped to electronic music. Touching sounds IDM and other elctronic genres made 10 years earlier :) But true It's no IDM :) |
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you should all check XINLISUPREME i think they're japanese, something like sigur ros-bit more electronica i'd say |
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From portishead.co.uk: "We have noticed that there is some confusion on an album release called "Alien". Please be aware that this is NOT a Portishead release. The band are in the studio working on new material now but no release dates are scheduled as yet." |
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Actually, I'd rather see Radiohead go easy on the electronic route... I think the first and third tracks on Amnesiac are crap... the guitar or piano based tracks are always my faves. I don't want electro beats in their tracks... I want good old fashioned drums, played with good old fashioned wooden sticks, in good old fashioned 4/4 or 3/4. Or whatever the fuck time signature Pyramid Song is in. |
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Nifty, thanks for clearing that up. Allmusic are usually pretty reliable... shame on them! |
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No. |
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sometimes Tool has Idm-ish Sounds because of Danny Carreys electronic drums mostly. The two trance-like songs off of lateralus especially. ( Reflection, and Triad) |
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ok. |
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i agree with you with the exceptions being: idioteque, the gloaming, worrywort, like spinning plates, backdrifts, and kinetic. so basically their electronic tracks are hit and miss, with the majority being hit. the ones on amnesiac were pure shit though. especially pulk. what a terrible song. |
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pyramid song is actually in 5/4 time.....but thats suits me good enough... .i love radiohead's jump to electronica, it was a good time, and i don't think it was an escape to stay alternative, because radiohead can make pop songs that sound great and are still considered alternative...... treefingers started it all...............you have to understand where radiohead is coming from in amnesiac... i think the viewpoint and song tracks are brilliant...especially pulk/pull, spinning plates, hunting bears(!),and packt like sardines in a crushd tin box......:) radiohead is god of melodic moody music. |
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The Notwist. (i've said this before :-p) It's very interesting (i think) how this band mixes traditional rockmusic with electronic sounds. Just listen to the song 'chemicals'. |
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i dont see anything wrong with radiohead incorporating their electronic inluences.. i think its great.. a lot of bands claim to be really into various electronic stuff, but it never comes up in their music.. have to sell records ya know..and they dont play that 'techno shit' on the radio the whole electronic-rock thing isnt very new either.. its been around since the 70's.. was really big in the 80's.. it seemed to fade a bit until the end of the 90's.. |
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i think a good statement here would be rock's influence in IDM/electro. it's not HUGE, but it isn't non-existant either. i know i personally worship Radiohead for what they do, but i'm taking almost the opposite route...instead of putting electro in with electric, i'm getting to a point where instead of simply writing the melodies on guitar and translating them to sequencers and whatnot, i'm actually manipulating guitar lines cohorts record to me comp. that's prolly somethin else that's nowhere being a new technique, but it's just somethin i wasn't able to do a few months ago with any kind of precision/skill/talent |
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The nice thing about radiohead is that they really tried to find something inbetween rock and idm. Lord knows they weren't the first rockband to try and mix rock with dance-music. But it was usually just rockmusic with a drumcomputer and some weird samples. I think radiohead dug much deeper into electronica. Also sacrificing (in some cases) things like lyrics, and songs having a proper chorus. Tracks like 'everything in it's right place' are totally fascinating to me... because they sound so unique. Elements from both rockmusic and electronic musis truly combined into something new. |
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oh and to answer the original question of bands who use guitars+electronics.. sigur ros mogwai ampop do make say think fridge the album leaf slowdive fog stereolab the sea and cake minotaur shock four tet mum delarosa and asora greg davis telefon tel aviv ok, i guess the ones towards the end use electronics more prominently.. its nice that everythings getting mixed so much |
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i think you might like my groups stuff ophecks.. www.zebox.com/mua download the tiki obmar track called lilypads a. its guitar, drums, and bass, with loops and samples. |
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tortoise, portishead, __ these bands aren't rock 'n' roll by a long shot... godspeed and tool have NOTHING to do with idm... wtf?!?!? idm influence in rock: listen to Hood, The Notwist, The Music, Linkin Park (not that you all would ever admit it), Deftones (you'd have to be really familiar with their music to agree with me on this), Radiohead, . countless others. |
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hell yeah deftones! knew my influence list seemed a little light...oh well, those are just the main ones...everything i listen to influences me somehow =P |
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