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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-18 08:37 [#00408194]
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So has anyone heard this "new" nirvana-song yet? (apparantly the last song they recorded as a band). I for one am very excited about it :-D
If anyone's heard it: is it any good? what does it sound like?
I just read an interview with dave grohl who said: "i'd sooner call it 'interesting' than 'good'"
I think it's scheduled to be released as a single for the end of this month already. And after that there will be a greatest hits-album with "you know you're right" as a bonus-track. (i'll just buy the single... no way i'm going to spend 20 euros on a bunch of songs i already have).
But later on there might also be a cd with rarities! (outtakes from the in utero-sessions and such).. I'm very excited about that one too!
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2002-10-18 08:42 [#00408207]
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Yep. I will buy the cd (hopefully cd-box) with rarities, but not best of. Have all the cd's so I hope the song will be on a single. Wonder if there will be any b-sides? Maybe some live-stuff?
I'm a hardcore Nirvana-fan, and I think the song is really good!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-18 08:44 [#00408208]
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I would like that rarities-thing. next year, right?
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2002-10-18 08:47 [#00408215]
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Think the best of is in nov/dec, and the rarities is next year, yes. I guess the delay is because of that stupid Courtney Love cunt!
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Bremzen
from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-18 08:48 [#00408218]
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didn't the rest of the band and courtney love finally settle things?
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2002-10-18 08:52 [#00408222]
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Yep. But if she was a normal reasonable person, it would have been settled years ago. I think.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-18 08:55 [#00408231]
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She's cool. She's gone on the record saying she doesn't care if people copy her Cds as her record Company charges too much...
Re: The Nirvana thing. I don't think she should have any say, merely a share of the profits...
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-18 08:57 [#00408236]
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i thought it was already for sure the song would also be avaiable as a single?
Damn i hope so! I'd be really frustrated if i had to buy the entire best of-cd just for one song.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-18 09:00 [#00408239]
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i agree (only with the 2nd part of your post though! ;-))
I think it's absurd that the 2 remaining bandmembers aren't the only owners of the unreleased material.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-18 09:09 [#00408251]
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just d/l it.
sounds good.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-18 09:09 [#00408253]
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anyway it's good to hear you like the song! That makes me optimistic :-)
I hope somewhere on one of the new relaeses they will be able to fit "i hate myself and i want to die". That one was released on a beavis and butthead compilation-cd i've never been able to find in any shop :-(
I've heard that song on a tape though, and it fucking rocks.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-18 09:10 [#00408255]
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yes that one is good too..
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-18 09:11 [#00408257]
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right now i don't even have a soundcard on this crappy computer ;-) No downloading for me i'm afraid.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-18 09:17 [#00408266]
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Had Kurt written her into his will?
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2002-10-18 09:17 [#00408267]
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surrounded: Yeah. There are many. I hate myself, verse chorus verse, you know you're right, and a lot of live stuff.
Damn; I had a link to a really great nirvana-site with a lot of news bootleg-discogs and so on. I'll try to find it
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2002-10-18 09:19 [#00408269]
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check out: http://www.digitalnirvana.net/ Click on; "song guide" and "all songs"
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-18 09:22 [#00408270]
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i don't know actually :-s
But let's say he did. Than ofcourse she has the right to receive the royalties of all the nirvana-albums that were still being sold after his death.
But now we are talking about unreleased songs that the 3 nirvana-members recorded by themselves! Courtney had nothing to do with that.
I guess if Kurt had put her in his well, she is probably *legally* the owner of that material... but if that's the case, it's an absurd law imo.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-18 09:38 [#00408291]
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nice site!
I'm mostly interested in the songs that might have been recorded in the last years of Kurt's life. I actually already have quite alot of bootlegs with very early unknow nirvana-material... and i don't really like most of them. I think Kurt became a much better songwriter later on :-)
This sounds good though:
"There is a certain amount of Nirvana material that has not been released. "I have a buttload of material," Love says. "I have the holy grail of rock & roll. That's the story." There are 109 tapes. "But not all of it's great. Some of it's fragments." She thinks there are between five and eight "solidly good," unheard acoustic songs. "There's some stuff that's not very melodic that I'm not fond of, but, hey, if you're a fan of [Radiohead's] Kid A, it might be really great."
Hehe... typically Love to casually dis radiohead like that. But i don't mind, it just makes me laugh :-p
But anyway, i'd love to hear those 5-8 new acoustic songs! And i think she's being very selfish by wanting to keep it for herself.
I just don't understand where she's coming from. Obviously Dave and Krist would like to release as much as possible, so Courtney... doesn't? But why not? What is it that they are actually fighting about?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-18 09:39 [#00408293]
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the video was just on MTV. nice video, nice cuts.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-10-18 09:40 [#00408294]
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I accually really like this song! I never stopped liking Nirvana I loved them when I was in the 5th grade!
After that, I just started listening to other music more often... man, I miss Kurt's voice! :D
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2002-10-18 09:40 [#00408295]
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I think Dave and Krist hate her. With reason. I would seriously buy anything (I don't have before) of Nirvana. Give me a quadruple cd-box or something. Maybe Nirvana will be the new Beatles with secret tapes popping up every now and then?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-18 09:42 [#00408297]
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listened to it a couple of times now. its really good. :)
"nevermind" was the first cd I ever bought.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-18 09:42 [#00408298]
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damn! And you live in holland aswell... i could have seen that :-p
Hopefully it will be shown again, rather sooner than later please ;-)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-18 09:46 [#00408303]
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hm... i'm not sure about the cd-box. I'm very afraid the box will mostly contain all the regular-albums, each with a couple of outtakes or something. I seriously doubt the announced box will contain nothing but unheard songs. All the 'new' material will probably fit just as well on one cd, and the box will just be a way to make more money :-/
(from what i read in OOR magazine, first there will be the best-of albums, than a cd full of rarities, and after that a boxset)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-18 09:46 [#00408305]
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You can put copyrights in wills, jsut like you can sell them... Elvis' family still makes shitloads from copyright royalties of his material...
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-10-18 10:47 [#00408348]
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courtney love is a murdering bitch
any hardcore nirvana fan would have had the 'rariites' years ago. we're hardly short of nirvana bootlegs (well over 100)
the 'new' song i quite like, but yet again its a scam to make you but a 'greatest hits' (duh) by putting one extra unheard track on it.
why would you want to by the box set when i guess you have all the albums / singles already? up to you, i guess
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-10-18 10:51 [#00408353]
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I saw the video yesterday and enjoyed it immensly. The track itself is very good imo, I'm glad it finally made it out. As a collector, I'll buy the greatest hits even though I own most of Nirvana's albums, just because I feel it deserves a spot in my collection.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-18 10:52 [#00408355]
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yeah but all of the bootlegs i have are kinda crappy... both in soundquality and artwork.
It's usually audience-recordings with lots of talking through them, or (even worse) studio-recordings with audience-noises mixed over them :-o
If there were a nice compilation of all those rarities (verse chorus verse, sappy, i hate myself and i want to die, a studio-recording of spank thru (!)... that would make me very happy :-)
Hopefully the rarities-cd will be just that. There are some amazing unreleased songs out there, that's for sure.
But for right now... i just wanna hear You Know You're Right... :-p
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-10-18 10:53 [#00408356]
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oh i forgot to say...
UK'ers
and this is absoultely true
the new nirvana vid is being shown on NEWS AT TEN tonite
don't ask why, i really don't know
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2002-10-18 11:21 [#00408370]
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ok, heres the deal, cuz there seems to be alot of speculation.... a best of cd just called "nirvana" comes out sometime this month. the video is already on mtv and m2. next year we get a rarities cd which everyone should be jazzed about. then the year after we get the mythic "boxed-set" which dave grohl promises is alot of material that no one has EVER heard before. all this info is available at www.nirvanaclub.com
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fishbone
from widnes (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-18 12:00 [#00408414]
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the rareities boxset was already released a few years ago, then it was unreleased because of courtney.
i'll be looking forward to buying it tho.
also, cobains diaries (from the age of a child to the age of his death) is going to be published along with poems, artwork, and un-recorded song lyrics or something like that.
exciting times for a nirvana fan
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-10-18 12:08 [#00408422]
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i think its well out of oder releasing his personal diaries into the public domain, obviously personal stuff which was NEVER meant to be seen by anyone except himself
which i why i loathe that money grabbing murdering whore
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fishbone
from widnes (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-18 12:10 [#00408426]
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too true.
i think they're releasing the diaries to influence kids to stay away from drugs.
but rather than doing that, they should just use the biography that was written
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-20 17:04 [#00410495]
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i know i feel the same way and i think it is a terrible thing that they are publishing his diaries...
but...
well, i don't know if i'll be strong enough to resist the temptation of reading them :-o I mean when they're just out there... for sale in every bookstore (even in a dutch translation)... i know i'll be curious and will want to read it.
Someone pointed out to me that some pages are already online, and i couldn't stop reading. It's like you keep wanting to understand Kurt more... get closer to the mystery.
I'll probably read the diaries and feel guilty for the rest of my life :-/
people who cant resist the temptation click here
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-10-20 17:09 [#00410501]
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Nevermind was either first or second cd i ever ownes. Were talking classic!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-20 17:25 [#00410527]
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true
but in utero was much better. That was the life-altering record for me
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-23 09:33 [#00414006]
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well hurray! I finally saw the video today! And i liked it, i really really liked it. It's not one of Nirvana's best songs (well, as far as i can tell from hearing it only once with my mom talking through it :-/)... but it was just so great to actually see a nirvana-video i hadn't seen before.
Also, i was surprised at how hard it rocked! I dunno why, but i always thought it'd be a soft acoustic song... I like this even better though. It rocks like only nirvana could rock, and when he screams... wow... he really SCREAMS! Can't wait to see it again, and to buy the single when it's out.
I can't believe it's really been 8 years since kurt died... where did all that time go eh? By now there's a whole new generation of kids who never even heard of nirvana.
There was one of those horrible txt-bars at the bottom of the screen where people can send sms-messages... and during the video it was full of things like: "this song sux, pls play some sum41, the rok!!!!!!"
What the hell... who would ever prefer a sum41-video over nirvana? :-p
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-23 09:38 [#00414010]
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nice video also. I really like how (so far, i hope they keep it up!) Krist and Dave and whoever else is responsible for the nirvana-legacy never make it sentimental and "in memory of kurt cobain"-like. It just shows nirvana as they were... having fun, on the stage... yeah... i liked it!
Much better than all the tupac-videos released after his death (not that i like tupac at all... but those videos make me sick). Always ending with "in loving memory of..."... showing fragments of interview during the song. They are really milking his death i think. Luckily they haven't done that with kurt so far :-)
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OK
on 2002-10-24 11:24 [#00415552]
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what are they doing then?
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dhstii
from United States on 2002-10-24 13:00 [#00415603]
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verse chorus verse is one of my favorites
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