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offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2005-03-19 20:49 [#01538438]
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Pro Radii sounds alarminly similar to Gescom's Tangle ILL
off of ISS:SA.
Would autechre blatantly recycle sounds like that?

Augmatic Disport -> Gantz_Graf
Pro Raii -> Tangle ILL

hmmmm....?


 

offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2005-03-19 20:52 [#01538440]
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Holy Shit....

Iera -> Slow Acid (gescom)


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-03-19 20:55 [#01538441]
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If they are working on a more processed baised music than a
result baised music, yeah.


 

offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2005-03-19 20:59 [#01538443]
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same timbres, nearly same structures at times

*jaw dropped*


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-03-19 21:02 [#01538446]
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Maybe they felt they didn't get it right the first time?


 

offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2005-03-19 21:08 [#01538452]
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heh heh, I'm surprised they would make that mistake
public though. Hmmm... Here's an honest question for you:
You've heard the Untilted leak, yes? Whether you like or
not, did you feel this record sounded vaguely remeniscent of
others the first time you listened? I felt that way and
it was the first time I ever had that happen with a new
autechre release. Any opinions?


 

offline mimi on 2005-03-19 21:09 [#01538453]
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my opinion is that they ran out of ideas past confield


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-19 21:16 [#01538456]
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My opinion is that you are a pig.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-03-19 21:17 [#01538457]
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I felt that draft seemed to be them revisiting various
points throughout their carreer in a noncronological order.
This album seems to be a continuation of that. The same
thing I feel with draft, is that they are seeming to have a
bit more fun with stuff than they had in a while. Confield
was much too serious and intellectual for its own good, and
eventually worked itself into near nonsence, because too
many ideas seemed to be expressed at once. This album
doesn't seem to do that. Pretty much, if the leak is real,
then it seems to be a worthy predicessor to draft.

Honestly, I wouldn't see it so much as a mistake. Maybe they
sat down one day, listened to one of their gescom tapes, and
said, "you know what we should have done here?...."
Honestly, if I were in their shoes, I would probly do the
same thing. Although, I haven't really listened to the leak
enough to bridge them together. I am waiting for the album
to come out, so I don't find myself bored of it and not
wanting to buy it.


 

offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2005-03-19 21:33 [#01538461]
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well said, though I might contest the point about Confield a
bit. That one was my favorite and the most original I felt.
(-_^)



 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2005-03-19 22:02 [#01538462]
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offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2005-03-19 22:38 [#01538466]
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ok


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-03-20 01:29 [#01538478]
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Honestly, I think they kinda lost the handle with confield a
bit... and they have got it back. I love track 2 and 7 in
confield, but for the good part of the middle, its kind of
just clompy beats. It kind of felt like they were just
testing out their technology before they really understood
it. The rumor is that they were just getting used to kyma
with that one, and its mostly presets. If you listen to
draft 7.30, you can hear that they kyma was strong in that,
and it had extremely tangible themes, where confield doesn't
so much (its one of the few autechre releases that don't,
IMO).

I really like draft. It sounded as if they were just getting
back to what mattered. Wanking with style.

(sorry, i am drunk. Hopefully this doesn't come off sounding
too whack)


 

offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2005-03-20 01:39 [#01538480]
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well not to bring it back full circle, but Draft did
sound different than Confield, so that is a good thing.
Still not feeling how Untilted is illustrating any type of
progression though... :(



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-03-20 03:06 [#01538487]
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it is my theory that gl0tch and elusive are the same person,
in a kind of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde kind of thing.

for the life of me I can't figure out which is which.


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2005-03-20 04:05 [#01538494]
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If Detective John Kimbell were with us, he would probably
say "Stop It!"


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-03-20 05:33 [#01538515]
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Confield was amazing. The control they excercised on that
release was really good. Untilted which I have began
listening to a lot because I couldn't wait for the official
release (I am still getting the vinyl and CD though :P) is
shaping up to be my favourite Autechre release ever. It is
absolutely excellent.

I agree with hearing elements of other Ae/Gescom tracks, but
for me that has enhanced the album, it's familiarity with a
different edge. Augmatic does sound like a development of
the Gantz Graf sound but that could just be down to the use
of the same percussive samples they have used are similar.

As some of you will know Slow Acid was my favourite track of
ISS:SA so having Iera is a massive bonus for me.

In fact this is the autechre album I have been waiting for.
It's really sad in places. I dunno I just love it
completely.


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2005-03-20 05:38 [#01538517]
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my opinion is that Draft 7.30 still kicks the shit out of
Untilted (the mp3 version). I will of course buy the CD of
Untilted which I hope will 'sound' better than the mp3
version. I think Ae's stuff is much better in the format
intended anyway, i.e. CD's.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-03-20 05:56 [#01538523]
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of course


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2005-03-20 05:58 [#01538526]
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Autechre are awesome.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2005-03-20 06:11 [#01538527]
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crazy good


 

offline lupus yonderboy from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-20 11:08 [#01538769]
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alright you lot, i warned you before. swims over now go back
to the changing rooms.

btw: brokephones if you find the adventures of arnold strong
amusing you might want to search slsk for his work out
tapes. highly entertaining material. uap dawon!


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-03-20 12:34 [#01538897]
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CRAZY good music out right now


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2005-03-21 01:26 [#01539428]
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stop me if a) im being naive or b) im talking about leak 2
or c) im taling crap , but

although i love pro raadi the most from what ive heard of
untilted, (for me i could access it much faster and with
more satisfaction than most songs on the previous 2 albums),
and to my ears it sounds fantastic; i honestly feel as if im
on a journey when i listen to this. Yet doesnt anyone find
the applause samples a bit un-ae like? i mean they hate the
use of samples dont they? the music is about the opposite of
sampling and always has been.

same with the little beat that comes in toward the end of
augmatic disport (i think, on my version anyway) - just
seems a little unlike ae. although these are the only two
things that kind of betray the rest of the songs, at the
same time i dont dislike these foibles.

however, i havent heard enough gescom, or dont have enough
knowledge of ae's music making processes to confirm that the
things i have mentioned dont add up. just thought you guys
may be able to put me straight!

thanks.


 

offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2005-03-21 01:29 [#01539429]
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there's some alarmingly suspicious activity going on in
there, and I feel like I am the only one who notices it
enough to remain unconvinced that this represents the proper
release



 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2005-03-21 01:31 [#01539430]
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not anymore, its ridicuclous to assume, always. still great
music though. still think that this may be them but not
untilted.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-03-21 02:24 [#01539434]
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Yeah. All deliberations are off untill a proper studio
release is procured.

At least for me... you guys can make up your own mind about
that shit.


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2005-03-21 04:13 [#01539489]
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Do you mean stuff like the things I mentioned?


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2005-03-21 06:36 [#01539567]
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does anyone else have these concerns?


 

offline woj on 2005-03-21 16:50 [#01540152]
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pro radii = gescom - chunge.


 


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