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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-13 12:35 [#00648318]
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This is a rough cut of my new track, "Silo". Please listen and comment as I'm working on a slightly different version for my demo CD and would appreciate any feedback on it.
Many thanks. Ceri.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-13 12:41 [#00648321]
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doon larding
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-04-13 12:42 [#00648323]
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shit, i don't want to register
maybe some other link?
it would be cool if xltronic featured its artists, something like a members music section
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-13 12:42 [#00648324]
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I was going to include a link to this in the email I just sent you, but It hadn't ULed yet... 20 secs after hitting send it appeared :)
I'm DLing wonderwall as I type.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-13 12:43 [#00648325]
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That feature will be implemented when XLT is finished! Are you on Soulseek Cheffe?
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-04-13 12:44 [#00648326]
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yes, username r_rober
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-13 12:52 [#00648330]
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Are you on at the moment? I can't see you...
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-04-13 12:52 [#00648332]
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I like it. It's nice and mellow.
My only comment is that there is that sound effect that appears at about 2:02 and it fades in and stops.... my problem is that it feels like it stops quite abruptly and it drew my attention to it. After listening through a couple of times i noticed the same effect happening to me.
Maybe that's what you were going for.... like an attention getter of sorts to contrast the mellow ambience of things. :)
I liked it over all. Kinda soothing!
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-04-13 12:53 [#00648333]
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yes, maybe check the spelling, it is case sensitive, or gimme your username
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-13 12:54 [#00648337]
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Cheers for the comments- that sound effect does stop too abruptly and it's not intentional... that's the first thing I'm trying to fix in the more polished version I'm going to use on my demo CD :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-13 12:56 [#00648340]
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Anyone on SS can DL it:
username: ceri jc directory: d:\soulseek\ filename: Ceri JC - Silo.mp3
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-13 12:57 [#00648342]
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i like the pads at the beginning a lot... very ambient like and orchestral... diggin it bro
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-04-13 13:07 [#00648359]
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Too short man, I like it but it left me kind of wanting more, I can tell you're dying to make it vletrmx21 :D
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-13 13:11 [#00648364]
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I've been getting paranoid lately that I've been making tracks to long for the amount of variation in them and people get bored half way through so I forced myself to keep this one short. Glad you liked it enough to want more though! The other version I'm working on is about 30 secs-1 minute longer, is that enough?
Cheers Teapot, I thought you'd like it... I just realised the radio crackle on it sounds a bit like old xanpha stuff- not an intentional copy, honest!
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cx
from Norway on 2003-04-13 13:14 [#00648366]
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don't think quantity, think quality :P if you can hear it through without getting bored or feeling that something is missing, you have achieved your goal.
just use your ears.
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cx
from Norway on 2003-04-13 13:16 [#00648370]
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oh btw, i liked the track. but one thing occured to me, would be nice if you used some automation on the strings to make them more 'organic', maybe make them evolve and get stronger and stronger like on vletrmx21.
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cx
from Norway on 2003-04-13 13:17 [#00648371]
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and heh, put some more reverb on them to add atmosphere. all in all i like the tune, the strings just need a little bit more warmth. :)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-13 13:19 [#00648374]
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It's nice. What it might could need is a steady pulse, some straight bass notes giving it some spine and direction at a tempo of about 60. Just some straight quarter notes.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-13 13:19 [#00648375]
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Cheers, the strings are the only element that lack automation :)
I'd thought to add more variety to the patterns, but not to alter the volume (perhaps I should add another "part" one octave lower for a more orchestral sound?)
Everyone seems to associate this track with vltrmx21- I'm flattered! :D
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-13 13:24 [#00648379]
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Thanks for listening Fleetmouse. I've been playing around with basslines (for another track entirely) this weekend so I think I may try something like them on it. Good idea.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-13 13:26 [#00648382]
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Ceri im well into the idea of remixing this if you would like my services :)
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-04-13 13:26 [#00648383]
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nice, when i listen to this i picture being at a beach with some type of a choir/horns playing in the background, and what sounds like static-y waves crashing but then stopping abruptly like a radio blaring white noise from a random station while having the volume knob constantly adjusted, then followed by a few passing helicopters. i think the track is a good length--it keeps you interested throughout the length of the song, but doesn't overstay it's welcome.
good work.
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Chris Ochre
on 2003-04-13 13:26 [#00648384]
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Nice dark track, good stuff. I'd perhaps recommend adding something at either end of the frequency spectrum though - perhaps some occasional rumble or bass swell, and some distant hf twinkling. That'd really top it off I reckon. Nice one.
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Chris Ochre
on 2003-04-13 13:28 [#00648387]
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Woah, simul-triple-post mayhem.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-04-13 13:28 [#00648388]
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it also sounds like someone's blowing a slide whistle in the distance occasionally.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-13 13:44 [#00648411]
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You have sharp ears indeed Q4Z2X! Not only did you spot it was meant to be a helicopter flying over head, but you also heard the distant sounds. Great considering it's a 128kb MP3 :)
Chris: Funny you should mention "dark"... I'm toying with the idea of doing this as part one of 4- this would be the nightime one, the other ones themed around dawn, day and twilight. 4 part track, each movement about 2 mins.
Thanks for the frequency comment I'll make a note of that.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-13 14:01 [#00648431]
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It fills my heart with an unspeakable sadness. I have no idea if you intended it that way, but i find the track very sad and almost depressing. I actually also immediately pictured a beach whilst listening to this.
And when i say "sad" and "depressing", i do mean that in a good way ;-) I find some of favourite songs to be sad and depressing, so it's actually more like a compliment.
I liked it! I think the length is about right. It leaves you wanting more... which is so much better than tracks that go on for too long.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-04-13 14:02 [#00648432]
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is it an actual helicopter sample, or something else with a choppy tremolo added to get the same effect?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-13 14:19 [#00648447]
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You picked up on the beach thing too :) My initial idea was of a grain silo (lots of my music is based on architecture...) in the desert, but I kept on mentally jumping to the silos on the docks in my home town. The staticy bit is meant to sound a bit like sand blowing around, perhaps from the downdraft of the helicopters hovering overhead? A water intake building (out at sea, but reachable at a low tide) ended up being the main inspiration for the track.
It is meant to be a bit sad and ominous, part of it being suggestive of the night I suppose...
Thanks for the feedback!
Q4Z2X: It's a synth patch of my own creating, no FX or anything...
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-13 14:23 [#00648452]
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That was cool, minimal notes, but thick thought out sounds.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-13 14:24 [#00648453]
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dig the visual images, i myself wrote My Debt with the visual of an Oil Rig out at sea
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-13 14:28 [#00648454]
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Cheers, yes I tried to use just enough notes to keep people's interest from wandering from the drones...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-14 03:10 [#00649082]
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BUMP (12 hour time difference = different people online...)
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Kill Switch
from Belgium on 2003-04-14 05:30 [#00649242]
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Still doesn't work for me, when I try to play or download it, I have to register first. Am I the only one with this problem?
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-04-14 05:32 [#00649248]
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nah I had to as well kill...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-14 05:34 [#00649253]
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I'll be on SS in 7 hours if you'd like to get it that way?
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Kill Switch
from Belgium on 2003-04-14 05:42 [#00649259]
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I've tried that before but I can never retrieve your shared list. Maybe it's just a sign I'm not ready for your music. :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-14 05:44 [#00649260]
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I'm aiming to have my own site up before christmas so if you can wait that long, hassle free DLs will be available.
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Murray
from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 06:43 [#00649295]
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Hey Ceri, good stuff man, the pads in it are really nice. The LFO effect on the synth bass line is nice. And there is some really nice crackly sound in thier that remind me of the begining of Gyroscope
good stuff man, looking forward to hearing more :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-14 06:45 [#00649302]
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Cheers Murray, after all the positive feedback I think I will proceed with my idea of making this into a four part EP.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-15 02:14 [#00651012]
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Sorry to bump this again, but some people mentioned that they didn't use soulseek and didn't want to have to register to DL from MP3.com. So, for those individuals, you can download it ("Silo") from here.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-15 02:18 [#00651016]
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nice... reminds me a bit of rapoon or steve reich... great lushness to it.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-15 02:25 [#00651019]
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feels like that pic on your zebox site... arid, dry, hollow, sad... veru veru nice work, i am a big fan of this type of thing.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-15 02:30 [#00651021]
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Cheers, I'm a big fan of Steve Reich (I tried to copy his style of piano work in my remix of David Bowie's UK heir for Teapot's latest compilation). I took that picture up in the mountains not too far from where I go to university.
You know you've really achieved something with a track when it makes you (or someone else who listens to it) feel something.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-15 02:32 [#00651023]
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my sentiments exactly, there is no bigger honor than to know you have effected someone in some way.
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