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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-01 10:55 [#01712174]
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Hi Folks,
As mentioned here: LAZY_REBIRTH
Rebirth is now available for free DL. As such I want to guage interest on an xlt-vibes idea: Rebirth vibes. I was thinking along the lines of a vibes done solely using rebirth (mac or PC version) with no effects/post-production work, other than those bundled with it.
Something I'd like to get an opinion on is if the use of mods should be banned (insert Jedi Chris joke here). Personally I think it should to help retain the traditional sound of the 808 and 909 as well as create an extra challenge, but if everyone has their heart set on using poisoner etc., I'm happy to go with that.
Quite aside from the tribute to what was, for many of us, the first serious softsynth we used and a pioneering bit of software in its own right, the classic 303/808/909 sounds should mean lots of nice acid, detroit, techno and minimal tracks. There's also a nice challenge for people to come up with something that sounds fresh and interesting and actually having to pull their fingers out and do some tight programming, without relying on the latest "does it all for you" softsynth presets etc.
NB: THIS IS NOT YET AN OFFICIAL VIBES. It's just guaging interest, if there's enough, I'll speak to Phob about it. I'll be happy to mix it/DL tracks etc. if it goes ahead.
Let me know what you all think.
Cheers,
Ceri
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-01 10:57 [#01712177]
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You missed the A.K.A. between the words Chris and joke there :P
Sounds decent. It shouldn't take more than about 4 weeks for the download to finish :)
I would like to have a go and would be up for it.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-01 10:59 [#01712179]
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i'll have a go
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-09-01 11:06 [#01712182]
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I am up for the challenge.
Are there any other restrictions in mind? As i saw this really good programing interface for it. Can i use that?
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-09-01 11:09 [#01712184]
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yes!!
NO MODS!!! that would defeat the whole point.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-01 11:14 [#01712187]
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I was thinking about if people could use Patternmaster (or the mac equivalent) or not. On the one hand, I'd have no way of telling if you did and I don't want to put too many restrictions on it. On the other, the fiddly interface (and consequently the mistakes that are made whilst programming it, due to this) is arguably a part of the instrument, particularly the 303. Personally, I'll be doing everything in re-birth (yes, even using that compressor), but I don't want to take the fun out the project by dictating too much :-)
Ecnad: Yep, the DL rate is taking the Michael.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-01 11:16 [#01712188]
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Glad to see I have an ally on this point, you just know someone would abuse it and load absynth/reaktor sound samples into a custom made mod. :)
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-01 11:16 [#01712189]
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I made a 90 min rebirth-liveperformance last week, its nice.
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staz
on 2005-09-01 11:22 [#01712190]
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YOU did too? I hear Bruno Mandel did one as well...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-01 11:27 [#01712193]
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Then I take it you would be up for this challenge?
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-01 11:30 [#01712195]
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Yea, I was so inspired by his set that I had to make one myself actually :)
Ceri : Yes, I'm very much up to it :)
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-09-01 11:30 [#01712196]
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Well, ok i will do it all in re-birth then! : )
I am not one to back down from a challenge.
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-01 11:33 [#01712199]
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Yeah Im up for this, it was true what you said above, Rebirth was one of the first bits of music software I ever used, and it was a turning point in the way i made music (a lot of Hardware gathering dust since). I still love the interface and haven't heard of the update that Skink mentioned but I will have a look at it.
This should be a good project and it is exciting to see what everyone produces given the same set of tools.
I bought a compilation album a few years ago which was produced entirely using the Roland 505 groovebox. Beck managed to squeeze a good electro track out of it. The rest of the artist lineup sounded shit.
*Fires up Rebirth
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-01 11:35 [#01712201]
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When is this thing due?
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-09-01 11:57 [#01712209]
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whoa, easy there. we can't detonate until we arrange to obtain some explosives.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2005-09-01 12:01 [#01712217]
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ill try
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-01 12:02 [#01712219]
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Shit! I already lit the fuse
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-01 12:04 [#01712223]
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Quickly, use some gum to put it out!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-01 12:09 [#01712226]
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I'm still waiting for a few more people to sig up to this before I get it "officialised" and formalise the rules, submission requirements, etc.
Kado: That thing skink is talking about (if it's what I think it is) isn't an official addon or anything, it's a third party (fan) proggy that lets you do your 303 lines on a piano roll, as opposed to the traditional 303 weird-as-hell step sequencer.
The limited toolset aspect appeals to me also, it'll be a level playing field for everyone involved and it'll really test people's programming abilities.
Now, where is my old phat boy RB-338 overlay...
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-09-01 12:10 [#01712230]
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Great idea, let's see if I can get something done in time.
If you somehow need a hand with the mixing part, let me know.
I would be willing to mix the tracks together.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-01 12:19 [#01712243]
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We are not allowed to use any kind of post-processing what-so-ever?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-01 12:34 [#01712260]
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No, if it's noticeable, the track won't be used. I suppose you might get away with some ever so subtle EQing/compression, if I don't spot it, but the whole point of the compilation is:
1. To use only rebirth- it's sort of a tribute to rebirth.
2. To have a level playing field. Anyone with a mac/pc can take part, legally, for free and have the same chance as the bloke with the £500,000 studio.
3. To have a cohesive sound to the tracks. This should make the mix work well.
Aesthetics: Thank you for the offer, I'll be in touch of your help is needed, ta.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-01 12:37 [#01712265]
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Yep, I agree with you, I just had to check to be certain :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-01 12:44 [#01712270]
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No problem. :)
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2005-09-01 14:30 [#01712430]
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I'm not prepared to download 500megs just for a few megs for the .exe. I'm sure others are in the same position.
Would any kind members with a fat pipe care to download the windows image and make available just the exe and core bits.
That way many more people could get involved in this.
Because I would be well up for this!
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2005-09-01 14:33 [#01712438]
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I'M IN!!!!!!! FUN FUN
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-01 14:35 [#01712443]
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my download just halted :(
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-09-01 17:12 [#01712684]
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Count me in. I already have ReBirth 2.01 and the ModPacking shit.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-09-01 17:23 [#01712694]
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sign me on the liney
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-09-01 17:47 [#01712714]
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I really want to get crackingon this but i can't because i have to wait hours for this pissing download.
I am really looking forward to some old school madness!
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-09-01 17:50 [#01712716]
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Also, will there be a tempo restriction?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-01 18:00 [#01712721]
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what kind of program is this?
I've never used it, how would I fare?
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-09-01 18:09 [#01712725]
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Well, you have to program it like the original. So if you are at all familiar with any step sequencing hardware you should be alright with it.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-01 18:24 [#01712736]
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right.
that's me out.
also the 5kb/s download is not good.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-09-01 18:37 [#01712747]
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It's easy once you get used to it!!!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-01 18:53 [#01712751]
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well.. everything is easy when you get used to it. :)
if the download speed gets better after the initial semi-rush, I might give it a go.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-09-01 18:57 [#01712752]
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I would like to hear what you come up with!
; )
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-09-01 18:58 [#01712753]
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Fuck it
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-09-01 19:00 [#01712755]
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???
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-01 19:10 [#01712764]
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Dan can only post two syllable messages inbetween his 14-hour DJ set.
it's either take 1/64th of a pee or type two syllables.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-09-01 19:38 [#01712787]
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Ah yeah, i suppose that is ok then! : )
I was worried!
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-09-01 19:46 [#01712790]
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rebirth is a bit fiddly at first, but it doesn't take long to get used to it. its pretty wysiwyg
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2005-09-01 20:21 [#01712824]
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isnt rebirth for... fags?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-01 20:24 [#01712833]
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you tell us.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2005-09-01 20:26 [#01712837]
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well i dont use it so probably
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-09-01 20:30 [#01712843]
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Witty nigel, very, very witty!
: )
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miss_croyles
on 2005-09-01 20:36 [#01712852]
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http://xltronic.com:8000/listen.pls
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zero-cool
on 2005-09-02 01:22 [#01712953]
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nice idea...i'm in
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-09-02 01:29 [#01712954]
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Heh. If I can hold my attention long enough to finish something, then I will take a stab at it.
Of course, after this download has gone throughl, I will probly be retired and have sold all my gear to pay for dentures.
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-09-02 01:53 [#01712958]
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i'll try to do smth for this project
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