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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-30 11:25 [#01376758]
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Well the one I made a long long time ago was that Bush would conviently capture Bin Laden before the Nov 2 elections to boost his votes. However at this point in time, that doesn't seem to be happening. My guess is that the Bush administration decided that Saddam would be effective enough for this 4 years, and save Bin Laden for the next 4 years to continue the Republican (satan's) agenda which consists of hiding behind values that are logical but not adhered to by the Republican party...
My next prediction now that Bin Laden isn't captured: Kerry will win. Thanks.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-10-30 11:29 [#01376765]
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I know a lot of innocents will be killed but if we just blew up the U.S. we'd be saving a lot of silly bother.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-30 12:03 [#01376809]
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Thats the dumbest thing I've heard all day, and I just woke up 2 hours ago.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-30 14:02 [#01376862]
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"My next prediction now that Bin Laden isn't captured: Kerry
will win. Thanks."
well i hope your right
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-10-30 14:06 [#01376865]
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Ha Ha!! Plums with Beaks!
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-10-30 14:06 [#01376866]
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You know I'm right.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-10-30 14:14 [#01376867]
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:)
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-30 14:50 [#01376885]
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I might support you if I had some sort of "hitler" complex. But no thanks.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-10-30 14:59 [#01376889]
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I'm not really looking for support, man. I made a joke.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-30 15:00 [#01376890]
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damn yo, try being funnier next time :o
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-10-30 15:13 [#01376897]
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JivverDicker saw the reference, don't be mad because you didn't get it :)
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Iroel
from Pisa (Italy) on 2004-10-30 15:20 [#01376900]
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Oh my God no...
Please don't tell me that there are going to be 4 mor years of Osama galore ;__;
I mean I'm tired...the justice league needs new enemies...
What about a new empire of evil in Europe? They should listen to Pat Robertson you know, the man has vision, immagination, he knows what people want to see on tv. Why don't they make this convenient story of how the Pope John Paul Dies and the antichrist becomes his successor. He puts up again the Catholic party and conquers all europe proclaiming the rule the great principate of the vatican.
Then the newly foundeed great principate of the vatican decides to attack the united states with a new weapon: the mobile suit.
At first america cannot face the power of such new weapon and slowly starts losing ground, when a new hope is born: the gundam.
And bam, fox news ratings go through the roof!
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-30 15:20 [#01376902]
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wtf is Plums with Beaks?
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-10-30 16:39 [#01376949]
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It's a really obscure joke. Don't worry about it.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-10-30 16:42 [#01376953]
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i predict an assasination of some sort
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Rostasky
from United States on 2004-10-30 16:46 [#01376955]
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I actually know some guys on some terrorist watch list because they own a couple sniper rifles and say that they will assassinate the president if he gets reelected. That would be fun. But unlikely, I suppose.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-10-30 17:09 [#01376966]
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I honestly think Bin Laden is dead....
I mean, if we we're able to find Saddam in a little hut in Iraq, then I'm sure Bin Laden got his in the mountains. I got a feeling though that Al-Queda will use his charateristics and find "posers." His face has become a symbol for them. As for the election I hope your right about Kerry winning, though I'm not so optimistic at this time. :[
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-30 17:14 [#01376968]
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I believe Mr Laden released a very up-to-date video the other day. This would be an effective argument against his death. Unless there were bearded robots or something.
Why would the US government even want to capture osama, though? They need a figurehead for Dat Dang War On Dem Cameljockeys.
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Iroel
from Pisa (Italy) on 2004-10-30 17:23 [#01376970]
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I think that some alien army is using binladen as a hand puppet...
they want as to destroy ourselves and invade us...
Simple tactics divide and conquer...
We will be all enslaved and whipped to death by some anime looking girl with cat years and cyber-punk clothing in an effort to build a giant phallic shaped obelisk
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-10-30 17:23 [#01376971]
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Hee hee! you need to adjust your tin-foil helmet a bit, + Bin Laden isn't a Poseur and would you vote for The governator of California to terminate Usama?
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OK
on 2004-10-30 18:39 [#01376986]
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"O American people, this is what I have to say about the causes and results (of the September 11, 2001 attacks) and the way to avoid another Manhattan.
I tell you that security is a major pillar of human life. Free men do not renounce their security, irrespective of (US President George W) Bush's claims that we hate freedom.
Let him (Bush) tell us why we did not attack Sweden, for example. It is obvious that those who hate freedom cannot have the pride of the 19 (September 11 suicide hijackers), God rest their souls.
If we fought you, it is because we are free men, we do not ignore values, we want to return freedom to our nation. If you play havoc with our security, we play havoc with yours.
You astonish me. Despite the fact that we are into the fourth year after September 11, Bush is still misleading you and hiding the real reason from you, which means that the reasons to repeat what happened remain.
I will tell you about the reasons of these events and about the moments in which the decision (to attack) was taken so you will ponder them.
I swear we never thought of attacking the towers, but when we saw the injustice and arbitrariness of the US-Israeli alliance against our brethren in Palestine and Lebanon, it became too much and the idea came to me.
The events which affected me directly go back to 1982 ... when America gave the Israelis the green light to invade Lebanon, with the backing of the US Sixth Fleet.
It is difficult to describe what I felt in these painful moments, but it created an overwhelming feeling of refusal of injustice and a compelling determination to punish the unjust.
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OK
on 2004-10-30 18:40 [#01376987]
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As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me that the unjust should suffer the same, that the towers in America must be destroyed so that America gets a taste of what we went through, so that it will stop killing our children and women.
We did not find it hard to deal with Bush and his administration given the similarity with the regimes in our countries, half of which are governed by soldiers and the other half by the offspring of kings and presidents.
We have a long experience with those. Both categories count people who are arrogant, greedy and embezzle (public) funds.
The similarity began at the time of visits by Bush the father (former US president George Bush) to the region.
At a time when some of our kinfolk were impressed by America and hoped that these visits would impact on our countries, it turned out that he was the one affected by these monarchies and military regimes, envying them for keeping their posts tens of years, embezzling public funds without being held accountable or monitored.
He transferred tyranny and repression of freedoms to his son and they called it a national law (US Patriot Act, introduced) under the pretext of combating terrorism.
Bush's father thought it was a good thing to put his sons to govern states. And he did not forget to transfer (election-) forging skills from the presidents of the region to Florida to use them in critical times.
We had agreed with (suicide hijacker) Mohammad Atta, God rest his soul, that he finishes all operations in 20 minutes before Bush and his administration take notice.
It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the US armed forces would leave 50,000 of his citizens in the two towers to face these horrors alone at a time when they were most in need of him.
He reckoned that it was more important to preoccupy himself with the talk of the little girl about her goat ... than with the planes and their strike on the skyscrapers, giving us three times the time required to carry out the operations,
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OK
on 2004-10-30 18:42 [#01376988]
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to carry out the operations, thanks be to God.
Your security is not in the hands of (Democratic presidential candidate John) Kerry, Bush or Al-Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands. Any (presidential) mandate which does not play havoc with our security would automatically ensure its own security."
Osama bin Laden. in video aired this friday
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OK
on 2004-10-30 18:45 [#01376989]
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that translation is awuful i read a better one in the paper today
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-10-30 19:14 [#01377002]
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*sigh* none of you read what I said clearly. Of course a video was released the other day, but evidently you didn't notice how I think that Al-Queda is using a "poser" or "posers" for Bin Laden.
Here's some various footage pics of Bin Laden. I don't think you need me to tell you that there's some discrepencies. It would make perfect since for Al-Queda to use Bin Laden look alikes if he was to pass away. He's their idol and his face is a worldwide association with terror. Believe what you want, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did die.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-10-30 19:25 [#01377004]
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im looking but i dont see obvious discrepancies
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-10-30 19:52 [#01377026]
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Are you blind? B has a microphone and E is just a shadow.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-30 20:09 [#01377036]
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in one of those pictures he all of a sudden has a beard!
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OK
on 2004-10-30 20:11 [#01377037]
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it looks like the exact same guy.......
OH MY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT!!! THEY CLONED BIN LADEN!
idiot
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-30 20:12 [#01377039]
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a-HA!
so YOU are TOOLMASTER!!
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OK
on 2004-10-30 20:14 [#01377040]
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even the beard has exactly the same color pattern..
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OK
on 2004-10-30 20:14 [#01377042]
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No. but I had to do the toolmaster thing
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-10-30 22:08 [#01377057]
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So...the beard has the same color pattern...whoop-dee-doo. They could have grabbed any old random guy and have him pose to be Bin Laden. A and C look really close together, but the other 2 are off. You don't see the physical condition difference between A and B? I dunno about you guys, but being out in the desert and being ill for quite sometime doesn't allow you to act perfectly fine in "new" footage. I'm not saying my "theory" is fact, but Al-Queda will use the image of Bin Laden as long as they can regardless if he's around or not.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-30 22:24 [#01377060]
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I'm sorry, your "proof" isn't very convincing.
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boobah
from pants on 2004-10-30 23:51 [#01377071]
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Burn the satan child.
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OK
on 2004-10-31 00:12 [#01377102]
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MY GOD YOU'RE SO STOOPID. A AND C LOOK ALIKE BECAUSE HE'S MAKING THE SAME MARTYR FACE IN BOTH PICTURES. AND IN THE REST HE ISN'T.
and your theory is obvious since Osama is the only visual we identify with al-qaeda, he's the 'philosofical' (besides operational) leader. and also the founder. or course his image will be used later.
and obviously he isn't dead cus there's been al-qaeda attacks. that means they are alive and well organized. and us in afganistan didn't really do any little bit of harm to them.
everytime a tape or a video of him surfaces it goes trough an authentification tests. and all came being positive.
geez. get a clue
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-10-31 12:33 [#01377353]
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How do you explain him being ill, but then all the sudden he's perfectly fine in this "new" video. Also, like you said Al-Queda is still attacking because they're still well organized. Bin Laden doesn't have to be alive for them to be organized, that's crap. Al-Queda and their network are across the globe, it would take a LOT more than just Bin Ladan to make them un-organized. Maybe back in the day when he turned on the U.S. and even up to 9/11 he was the operational figure, but I believe he's much more philisophical now. As for the faces, of course he's making the same face, but regardless of the face he's making you can tell there's signs of deteriation like he doesn't look as healthy or he even looks older. That was my take from it.
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gnocelot
from Greifswald (Germany) on 2004-10-31 12:42 [#01377359]
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How do you explain him being ill, but then all the sudden
he's perfectly fine in this "new" video.
He got better.
The rest of your post makes sense, but I can't think of any very good reasons to assume it's a double. Not that I'm saying they necessarily wouldn't use one if he did die, I just don't think he did.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-10-31 12:43 [#01377361]
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The Arabic-language news network Al-Jazeera broadcast Wednesday what it said was a new tape of Osama bin Laden and his top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri encouraging new attacks against Americans.
Ayman al-Zawahiri is a doctor and a surgeon, he trained in Cairo. That's why Osama looks all cuddley and lovely at the moment.
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xian_ecci
from los angeles on 2004-10-31 13:24 [#01377369]
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so nice to come back to the board after months away to get a fat chunk of US slander.
while we all appreciate your interest in considering the historical perspective of the current situation, it's very single-minded. certainly the US is to blame, but not in of itself. this issue is borderless, having to do with the misuse of power and distrust of the other. what period of history should lead us otherwise?
By your cited year of 1982, the milion-faceted gears of conflict had been in motion for decades. just 3 years previous was the iranian kidnapping of US workers. 1972 was the palestinian kidnapping of israeli athletes at the munich olympics. of course, both in-part to make a statement about western policy in the middle east. but the united states was merely picking up the pieces of a failed european colonialism, and the aftermath of WW2.
the US has intervened to aid uprisings and even spark coups (such as iran in 1953), and this in most cases stengethened our position in the strongarming of already chaotic circumstances.
The governments of Brittain, Spain, Portugal, and the Netherlands all had their hand in dividing and conquering areas they felt were up for contention in the 19th and early- 20th centuries. The power grap goes back in decreasing scales from then, within virtually every arbitrarty borderline on our color-coded world map, including factions and families within the majority of the arab nations.
I will not make a case for American politics as having proper vision, and certainly have issues with recent decision-making, but lets not make out that it alone has given birth to evil and fear. I could easily argue that this hatred of the states is not based primarily on the last four years, but has inevitably evolved alongside the US rise as sole 'superpower' (see Randy Newman's 'Political Science', 1972).
And because of this ironic hatred, the balance will eventually change. but the situation of protectionism-into aggression will not. (see Xammax, #01376765)
Big F.U. to Xam
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-10-31 13:31 [#01377370]
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I got the joke about the quote from Alan Partridge.
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xian_ecci
from los angeles on 2004-10-31 13:43 [#01377372]
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which was it?
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-10-31 14:44 [#01377379]
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Good.
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