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offline coyote from NY (Canada) on 2003-04-22 18:29 [#00663995]
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Simple question: What are your thoughts on the meaning of
life? Is there a universal one that applies to us all? Do we
each have to find our own meaning of life, and live by it?
If you don't know , does it hamper your ability to live a
satisfying life?

*Eats a bannana*


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-04-22 18:33 [#00663998]
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I am looking for my pants


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-04-22 18:37 [#00664004]
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What good is your life if you’re not always helping other
people?

-Timothy Grover


 

offline magiker from Östersund (Sweden) on 2003-04-22 18:38 [#00664005]
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Beer is the proof that God loves us and wants us to be
happy.

Try it.
TRY IT
I DARE YOU


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-22 18:38 [#00664006]
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Simple question my arse. But for me, it has something to do
with music, and cookies. A little bit of column A, little
bit of column B. A quiet evening with a plate of cookies and
a brand new album... THEN I'll have the peace I'll need to
figure it out.


 

offline diemax from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2003-04-22 18:43 [#00664015]
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god is perfect, man is not
man made beer
god made pot
fuck alcohol, if you like your poisonous yeast excrement
that much ynot just drink ethanol and die?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-22 18:50 [#00664023]
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We fight, fuck, get buckwild
Kill, chill, make love, have child
Freestyle, b-boy, hit the block
Build, destroy, get it hot


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2003-04-22 18:54 [#00664027]
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..the pursuit to learn the meaning of life.


 

offline coyote from NY (Canada) on 2003-04-22 18:55 [#00664028]
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yes, good point
:/


 

offline coyote from NY (Canada) on 2003-04-22 18:56 [#00664030]
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that sounded sarcatic, but it wasn't


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-22 18:57 [#00664032]
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I think the meaning of life may be the joy you feel when the
Maple Leafs get slaughtered in a game 7, and you know the
collective agony their nimrod fans are feeling right now
is... incalcuable.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-04-22 19:02 [#00664038]
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google's answer -- some neat thoughts on here

my answer: to reproduce


 

offline Komakino from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-04-22 19:07 [#00664044]
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to annoy people; - you've all succeeded..


 

offline flim nanou from out of the frying pan (United States) on 2003-04-22 19:13 [#00664050]
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LIFE, n., pl. lives: it it all makes sense when I'm playing
drums


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-04-22 22:59 [#00664200]
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your capacity to conceptualize meaning is evidence that you
have been extended the gift of creation. you can define and
refine this process by:
1)resolving to discover who you are
2)resolving to discover where you came from
3)choosing your path and walking it

some simple laws: your ability to accept love is the same
as your ability to give love. your ability to forgive is
the same as your ability to accept forgiveness. your
refusal to judge your brothers and sisters will be your
brothers' and sisters' refusal to judge you. you cannot be
separated from your creator, nor from your brothers and
sisters (creation is a process of extension, not the
generation or reproduction of physical form). if you
discover why these simple laws are true, you will have begun
to transcend your suffering. you will possess the sword by
which you will divide the truth from the lie.

signs that you are in trouble (don't worry, you can resolve
this)
1)believing that your emotions "happen to you"
2)feeling that you are unworthy, meaningless
3)believing that only things can "make" you happy (mind you
i don't mean simply taking pleasure from interacting with
"things")
4)believing that other people can "make" you feel unhappy
5)believing that you can possess or know the whole truth
(note that acknowledging that humans cannot really "know"
this truth (rather they can operate ideas about it only) is
*not* a nihilist position)
6)you are besieged with feelings of guilt but you haven't
done anything to feel guilty about

but remember, there is no wisdom that is not earned.
however, there are many excellent teachers.

there is no plateau to learning and discovery; within the
network of self there are no limits.

a quote (which exists in elaborated form elsewhere): "that
which you believe to be true either is true or becomes true
subject to certain limitations; these limitations are to be
identified and transcended." - dr john c. lilly

you must take responsibility for your existence and
everything c


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-04-22 23:01 [#00664202]
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onnected to it. you must realize that each of us creates
our own experience, and what we share in this is the result
of agreements that we have made. we all want stability,
coherence, and some degree of predictability. but we also
want to be surprised, we want novelty, newness.

maybe you have already discovered that reality is far more
intricate and subtle and malleable than our physical
experience implies. so what are you going to do about it?

this is a personal version of ideas that are not mine,
though i take responsibility for their reproduction here.
it is incomplete and can never be completed. i share this
because i think it is useful, and...since you asked...


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-04-22 23:46 [#00664224]
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being-in-the-world


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-04-22 23:46 [#00664225]
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ok .. i kind of stole that one from Heidegger.


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2003-04-22 23:53 [#00664228]
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the meaning of life might very well be to type on a keyboard
on xltronic.com. it's most likely.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-04-22 23:54 [#00664230]
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i don't think there is meaning. i think its all just a
beautiful coincidence. that doesn't mean life is any less
fantastic, but we should assume it won't happen again and we
should take advantage of the time we get.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-04-23 00:01 [#00664241]
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The emaning of MY life is just to have heaps of fun and help
others have fun too.

I work to suplpy myself with money so I can have more fun.

I be nice to my family (most of the time) coz if I was being
a dickhead to them then they wouldn't be having fun.

It's all very simple to me.

I don't think it needs to be any more complicated.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-04-23 00:23 [#00664260]
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amen to that shit.

enjoy what you got while you still got it.


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-04-23 00:27 [#00664264]
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What we have been told is how we men can be drawn into
Christ -- can become part of that wonderful present which
the young Prince of the universe wants to offer to His
Father -- that present which is Himself and therefore us in
Him. It is the only thing we were made for. And there are
strange, exciting hints in the Bible that when we are drawn
in, a great many other things in Nature will begin to come
right. The bad dream will be over: it will be morning.
--C. S. Lewis

I can't stop reading his theology. I'm not an avid reader
of anything like this and never have been but for some
reason, something in his writing strikes a forgotten cord
deep in my bowels. I feel secretly happy and inquisitive..
Is what he speaks of real? I've never really given it a
chance and it's not like there's anything to lose right?
Why am I ashamed to be typing this?


 

offline Toejam from Perth (Australia) on 2003-04-23 00:27 [#00664265]
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here, here!


 

offline Toejam from Perth (Australia) on 2003-04-23 00:28 [#00664266]
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*raises glass to xltronic members*

Here's to life.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-23 00:30 [#00664268]
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because religion, especially christianity, isn't seen as
"cool" among youngsters.


 

offline aron from saskatoon (Canada) on 2003-04-23 00:32 [#00664272]
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i know the meaning of life, but i cant say.
dead serious man.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-04-23 00:34 [#00664276]
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if anything has a meaning i think it is death. death is
white-out and life is the mistake.


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-04-23 00:39 [#00664282]
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And what does the venerable titsworth have to say about
christianity?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-23 00:40 [#00664285]
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what do you want me to tell you? i'm christian but ashamed
of most of my fellow christians for embracing bigotry, hate,
and intollerance.


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-04-23 00:46 [#00664292]
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This is sufficient.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-04-23 00:48 [#00664295]
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aronZ - "mushrooms"


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-04-23 00:48 [#00664296]
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. . . and eye make-up, and unnatural hair color/size/shapes,
and bilking the elderly of their life savings.

do you really think its 'most of your fellow christians' or
is it just that the baddies are more vocal and/or high
profile. evil christians make better news stories.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-23 00:51 [#00664297]
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meaning is a human construct tied to a rationality which
only can only ever explain a portion of the universe


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-23 00:52 [#00664300]
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all the same i am content to enjoy all the beautiful art
that the world and humanity have to offer


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-23 00:53 [#00664302]
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"most" is an exaggeration though christians on a whole could
be more tolerant and respectful towards other cultures and
religions... then again that applies to most people.

we do have a very vocal bunch of twits/twats though! that's
what really bothers me most.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-04-23 01:00 [#00664308]
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Yeah, as with a lot of groups, a few annoying christians can
ruin the image of the whole crowd.

I am not religious, but I don't mind christians, the whole
religion seems relatively accepting and stuff.

Bhuddism (sp?) is in my opinoin probably the best religion.
but i don't really know enough about it ot argue my
statement or anything...


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-04-23 01:09 [#00664314]
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Why are you a christian tits? What compelled you to give
your life to Jesus?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-23 01:12 [#00664318]
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because i believe in christianity. christ gave his life for
us, i'm grateful and i try to live by god's will but i don't
give my life TO jesus like you're saying. to get into heaven
it's not prerequisite you be perfect; christ is the perfect
role model but no one can ever live up to him, so why front
like i'm some kind of monk.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-23 01:14 [#00664321]
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i don't object to anyone being religious, and a flirt with
something resembling religion myself... but i can't recall
to many individuals who i've met in my time who were
particularly cool (tolerant, open-minded, reasonable)
organized-religious folk... i trust that they exist... but i
wouldn't say that the majority of 'em is too cool... then
again, it's asking a lot for the majority of any given
demographic to be cool... which has been previously stated
by others (damnit)


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-04-23 01:14 [#00664323]
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There is nothing good about Christianity. It is an evil
disguised as good. Altruism, self sacrifice, voluntary
slavery, it is all the same thing.
Superstition is what kept us in the dark ages in fear,
servitude, ignorance, pain.
Reason and logic are countercurrent to religion. No pain
need be accepted as part of life. Human faculty and ability
should be used to ones own desire, and never to harm or
cause detriment to another.
Selfishness, individualism, egotism; these are the virtues
in the world and are those of free thought, action, etc.

As for the meaning of life, well, why is it assumed there is
a meaning?

The most disturbing part of this thread <<"What good is your
life if you’re not always helping other
people?

-Timothy Grover">>
That's a scary thought, and a sick statement.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-23 01:16 [#00664325]
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hmm you sound just like the televangelist/extremist
religious wackos we're talking about


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-04-23 01:17 [#00664327]
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That was what I meant. Making a decision to conform to that
way of life. But, what made you believe? What happened?
Were you raised that way?


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-04-23 01:18 [#00664330]
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Any conviction I have isn't a belief, its knowledge, unlike
"televangelist/extremist
religious wackos"


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-04-23 01:19 [#00664331]
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As much as I'd like to debate, it's too late for me here in
Burkani Faso


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-23 01:19 [#00664333]
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pain is as necessary a component of human existence as
pleasure.. i can't emphasize enough the importance of polar
opposites, and the reconciliation and acceptance of both
sides as necessary in the equation


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-04-23 01:23 [#00664338]
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I recognize these things, but I don't accept pain into my
life as necessary.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-23 01:23 [#00664339]
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came to my own conclusions, to this day they're sound
ones... christianity isn't just knowledge you can learn but
faith you can feel. there's nothing i can tell anyone that
should compel them to "convert", it's really something they
have to believe for their own reasons.

because i, too, am tired i refer to this older and more extensive discussion


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-04-23 01:26 [#00664342]
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mappatazee: and thus spoke Zarathustra !

i don't think christianity would work without the promise of
an afterlife.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-04-23 01:27 [#00664344]
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What I mean is;
Do I think that every negative instance can be prevented in
a persons life? No.
My point is that this "God is good and these things happen
for reasons because he loves us so much" (i.e. wife and
child are killed in a car accident, because that's God's
plan) is a)weakness b)self-degrading as a human being and
c)preventable. Make the roads safer, make cars safer, etc.
Nothing would ever progress if we left the world to "God".


 


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