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Wizard MaC
from Amersfoort (Netherlands, The) on 2002-03-22 08:48 [#00135909]
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Personally I think Aikido is the highest level of martial arts.
Here's a VERY nice link with clips of the founder of Aikido:
http://www.geocities.com/yovrosental/oshiba.html
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-22 08:57 [#00135924]
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Some years ago I wanted to practise AIKIDO, I like concepts of this martial arts, technic and meditation.
btw: Steven Seagal is an AIKIDO's expert, isn't it?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-22 08:59 [#00135928]
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I heard he's meant to be one of the top in the world of whatever style it is he does.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-22 08:59 [#00135930]
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I went to one class once and never returned. I'm not supple/fit enough. I always liked the idea of martial arts but never had the motivation/commitment and patience to devote the time it takes to get good.
In Aikido you use the attackers force no? Clever.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-22 09:01 [#00135932]
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Yesss...
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-22 09:03 [#00135933]
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I've not done anything but Lau Gar. I've never been to a Japanese martial arts club before. Aikido is very respectable.
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-22 09:12 [#00135936]
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Whats with all the pictures of people drinking pop from fast food places?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-22 09:15 [#00135938]
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Pop is nice. Anyway, only old grannies call it pop.
"Do you want a drop of pop love?"
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-03-22 12:00 [#00136031]
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Orange pop is my favourite!
(Let's not go down this route though - it'd be off topic!!)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-22 12:02 [#00136035]
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Hooray for Fanta (not Tango)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2002-03-22 13:38 [#00136136]
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AIKIDO CAN NOT MEASURE UP TO KUNG-FU!!!
meow
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-22 13:48 [#00136146]
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Drunken Mastah, I know that's probably a joke, but I really wouldn't recommend making accusations like that. He might hunt you down and kill you (if Kung-fu films are to be believed) for dishonouring his family style :)
Esp. as it's the old China vs. Japan rift :)
I remeber getting into a fight (not "proper", but not just playful either) as a result of someone claiming Tae Kwon Do was a better fighting technique than Judo :)
He landed a pretty good side kick on me before I managed to get him in a hold against a wall.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2002-03-22 13:53 [#00136154]
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Fuck him! Kung-Fu man is like water, Aikido man is like wind. If you fill the wind with water, the wind disperses into water. Wind cannot be filled with something without becoming it. For a human to become anything but human is impossible, so if you try to fill a Aikido-wind-human with a Kung-Fu-Water-human, the Aikido will perish.
meow, meow, meow
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-22 13:59 [#00136161]
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Yeah, I tend to agree, it's just that I wouldn't like to say that too a good akido or juijitsu player... :)
If you were really out to hurt people, Kung-Fu or Karate is the way to go. Stuff like Akido, juijitsu, judo, etc. are better for self defence.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2002-03-22 14:04 [#00136166]
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If you REALLY want to hurt someone, use Jeet Kune-Do or Fu-Manchu.
meow
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-22 14:04 [#00136168]
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Fu Manchu was an evil Chinese bloke I thought?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2002-03-22 14:07 [#00136174]
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Well.. Fu means master. Dunno about Manchu, but troops were taught in it somewhere.. dunno really. Maybe he invented it.
meow
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-22 14:11 [#00136182]
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Are you thinking of Wushu? The precursor to Kung-Fu. That literally was a "martial art" an art of war.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2002-03-22 14:13 [#00136187]
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nah.. not WuShu.. i know about that.. Fu-Manchu. I'm pretty sure.. It was a close combat-thingie for soldiers. Before the time when the emperor invited the Shaolin monks to come and teach his troops..
meow
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-22 14:14 [#00136190]
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Cool, I'll have to have a look into that.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2002-03-22 14:21 [#00136200]
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you sure do. :)
meow
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2002-03-22 14:52 [#00136240]
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In the newspaper today it said that Steven Seagal has decided not to do any violent films any more because his Buddhist guru has told him not to do so. He also told him not to associate with his children from previous marriages. Apparently his business partner now wants to sue him for £50m.
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doki
from cologne (Germany) on 2002-03-22 15:12 [#00136262]
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i just don´t get the thing with the children ... i mean, is that suggestion any good?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-03-22 19:22 [#00136540]
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me and my mate recently discussed aikido, and i really want to start practising it.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2002-03-22 21:01 [#00136616]
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Children, kittens.. what's the difference?
meow
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-03-22 21:43 [#00136681]
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Ich, ni, San, chi, go!!! Mina-san Chokatsu no iji Misuterimacho OOOSSS!!!!
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-03-22 21:45 [#00136685]
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*PAW!* *Sweech!* *Plaf!* *AAAOOUUHHH!!!* *Cronk!*
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2002-03-22 21:46 [#00136687]
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yes! YOU'VE GOT IT! FINALLY!
MEOW
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-22 23:16 [#00136852]
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Aikido is in my opinion, the only "true" japanese style. Praticaly all martial artists know that the other japanese style arts are re-rendered korean arts they stole/outlawed in an old nationalistic takeover of the korean dynasties. Simple examples=
Karate-Tawkwondo-So Bak ki, Hwa rang do Judo/Ju Jitsu-Hapkido-So Bak Ki
Practially all of the arts were first devised from "Buddhi Darma," (many other names ie. Dal Ma) to help the shaolin to condition their bodies. The stories were that the shaolin only prayed, and their physical bodies were deteriorating. But "O-Sinsay" (the founder of aikido) has developed an outstanding art based on the theroies and principal of neutralization. There are Chinese soft styles, but they don't focus on neutralization of enegery, mostly redirection/punishment, and self-improvemnet. I could go on, and on....
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-22 23:20 [#00136859]
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We must punch kitties!
Why do I hate kitties?
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-03-22 23:22 [#00136863]
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Because Drunken Mastah needs your help!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-22 23:24 [#00136865]
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I heard Karate was based on Tiger style kung-fu...
I agree about the origins of it. It was meant to be the monks let their bodies deteriorate and couldn't handle the long periods of fasting as a result, so they learnt wushu (soft forms first) to enable them to be a ble to cope with the fasting and pilgrimages. Sorry if you replied already, but what style(s) do you do Nanotech?
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-22 23:27 [#00136877]
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I practice an art that is currently being re-structered. use the search engine to find the "kung fu" thread....i really don't feel like re-typing all the info agin....
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-22 23:27 [#00136878]
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People I know really like Akido, give it a go.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-22 23:39 [#00136903]
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oh and about the tiget style kung fu...i don't know where you heard that, and if your instructor told you that i'm pretty sure that he/she had his reasons...so i need to reply with out offending...but on a non-biased point of view...if you look at the stances/hand techniques/foot techniques/forms/wepons/sef-defence techniques, they are practially the same.
My martial art has a major philosophy that all martial arts (just like much of everything else) is like a tree...they have the same roots...same trunk...but it's not until you get to the branches/leaves that you encounter the diffrent styles.
There is even a saying in aikido (i thought this is apropraite for this thread) "What can be used fro one...will be used for many"
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-03-22 23:42 [#00136907]
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wee mustu sturike at kitty!
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Wizard MaC
from Amersfoort (Netherlands, The) on 2002-05-02 13:47 [#00203340]
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PHOBIA: already practising aikido?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-02 14:17 [#00203346]
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I'm starting Akido in June, I'll be sure to let you know how I get on...
BTW Do you think a judo competition suit will be okay to wear?
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-05-02 14:18 [#00203347]
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martial arts are for people who cant afford/find a gun. all that dancing about cant compare to an MP40 up the khiber unless youre the bionic man...and we all know he electrocuted himself in the bath
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magiker
from Östersund (Sweden) on 2002-05-02 14:26 [#00203350]
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I'm a Jeet Kune Do Kung Fu Instructor.
Therefore, I rule. ::]
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-05-02 15:15 [#00203387]
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Many reasons people do martial arts -sport, competitiveness -physical fitness -self defence -'its cool'
Me? cos i love dancing & moving my body and the school i'm in is 2000 years old with a lifetime of learning about it, yourself and other people
[Togakure Ryo Ninpo Taijutsu] It is to martial arts what braindance is to sound
Anyone see Photeks - "ni ten ichi ryu" video of the samurai vs. 'ninja' ?....AMAZING..its sound choregraphed to a sword stroke or body movement
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Wizard MaC
from Amersfoort (Netherlands, The) on 2002-05-06 14:24 [#00207762]
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CERI JC: A judo suit will be ok to wear. A hakama (the 'real' aikido-suit) most times is only for the people who have higher grades.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2002-05-06 14:32 [#00207767]
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isn't that some sort of dress..? some guy in my school does aikido and he wears a weird dress like thing... or was that another sport...
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2002-05-06 14:34 [#00207770]
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Karate rocks
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2007-09-15 14:56 [#02120238]
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oh drunken your avatar rules! i like that mexican actor very much
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-15 15:01 [#02120239]
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Yeah, he's awesome! Any film he's in is instantly worth it!
meow
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2007-09-16 06:15 [#02120433]
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Aikido is pretty good but i like Brasilian Ju Jitsu better . Its a more practical form that is really superior in real fight situations. No hokus pokus .
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2007-09-16 14:35 [#02120533]
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i liked him in "from dusk till down", he was the bar man, very cool
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2007-09-17 04:01 [#02120651]
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Aikido for me is waaaay to arty and not martial enough. Its taken one concept - going-with-the-flow/redirecting force to the limit while ignoring other things like use of weapons.
Brazillian ju jutsu is the dogs bollox for gorund fighting and competiton but is doesn't address weapons and multiple
attackers so it falls down for me as a complete martial art.
The Bujinkan has everything - every weapon, every strategy every possible attack because its "priciples" based and beyond style/rules.
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diamondtron
on 2007-09-17 07:12 [#02120695]
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"Kung-Fu man is like water, Aikido man is like wind"
erm, what about hot air hand dryers in public toilets
good aikido whips everything (but judo) any day
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