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uzim
on 2007-10-27 12:21 [#02138349]
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Saul Williams has made a new album! it will be released on November 1st and you can get it either :
• for free, in 192 kbps mp3 • for $5, in either 192 kbps mp3, 320 kbps mp3 or FLAC • or on cd, in early 2008.
also, it's produced by Trent Reznor and one track is called "WTF!".
i'm pretty excited about this, his self-titled album was great : )
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-27 13:19 [#02138365]
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awesome!
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yoyoyo
from cornwall on 2007-10-27 13:23 [#02138367]
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oh yeah i heard nine inch nails is planning on ditch there record label and release there music as radiohead did.maybe many others will follow.
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yoyoyo
from cornwall on 2007-10-27 13:23 [#02138368]
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The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of Niggy Tardust cool name
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staz
on 2007-10-28 06:02 [#02138588]
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pre-ordered this. i loved his previous one.
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-10-28 14:24 [#02138661]
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I listened to the "leaked" *roll eyes* track. While the production that went into mixing etc is really good, the track is highly forgettable to me. one listen was enough.
There was a time when i would have loved to hear that Trent Reznor was giving his music away or selling it outside of the record label system...that was two albums ago. I'm sure a lot of artists will be doing this type of release which is cool. Sometimes that studio artist conflict is needed though...or else you get material like the track mentioned above.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-10-28 19:36 [#02138700]
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Radiohead didn't do shit. Prince, Neil Young, and a gazillion of artist have been putting full albums online for free.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2007-10-29 05:37 [#02138772]
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Thanks for the heads up. I love Saul Williams!
: )
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staz
on 2007-10-29 08:05 [#02138798]
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haha, you're still caught up on this. let it goooo.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-10-29 08:37 [#02138801]
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THIS IS FUCKING FANTASTIC.
5 bucks for an album in Flac is EXACTLY the model I wanted and hoped for. Looking forward to an email on Nov. 1 with my files!
Everyone should buy this and help stab a knife into the black heart of everything that's wrong with the music industry. GO GO GO come on let's get on it, let's ordering music happy family yes!
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staz
on 2007-11-01 01:36 [#02139671]
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got the release mail this morning, just downloaded it.
listening now!
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staz
on 2007-11-01 01:45 [#02139673]
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sounding great so far, bit of an oldschool hiphop vibe mixed with NIN style distorted mayhem. funkydrummer included!
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-11-01 01:57 [#02139674]
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i still aint got my download mail :(
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-11-01 01:59 [#02139675]
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nevermind it was in my junk mail folder
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-11-01 02:08 [#02139676]
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this is kind of like when draft7.30 came out and i was like, "wow. someone has finally made the cd i have always wanted to listen to"
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staz
on 2007-11-01 02:17 [#02139677]
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some really good stuff in here, fo sho.
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staz
on 2007-11-01 02:23 [#02139678]
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banged and blown through is faaantastic.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-11-01 02:54 [#02139682]
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allow me to completely rescind that statement
"black history month", "tr(n)igger", "raised to be lowered" are just great and i cant use words to say how much i like them. they are so good. being black and growing up in america and being "peculiar" (as far as common personality traits go) i know where saul williams is coming from, i feel him. its all so true and the rage he expresses in these songs is so touching because it is so fucking raw and so strange. and the music is just fucking unconventional and pretty raw
the rest of the songs; i dragged and dropped onto the trash icon in osx almost by reflex
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-11-01 03:00 [#02139684]
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update: i dont like "black history month" anymore. at all, actually. deleted
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-11-01 03:28 [#02139686]
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what the fuck's wrong with trent reznor? i just want to say to him, "give saul some alone time and let him loose. keep your ass out of it."
you can hear hear trent reznors influence all over the album its just this awful "i am a rock star" crap, just turn your fucking guitar off trent. just put it down and go away. don't touch on the keyboards, just keep your ass out of the studio and let saul mess with your expensive equipment. take the reverb off of those drums, shut your dumb self in a closet and go to hell. the only song it works on is "raised to be lowered". otherwise trent should have just stayed away from the drum set or whoever it was - or whoever "made" those songs.
how can you work with saul williams and not know what sort of music to make for his vocals? how stupid do you have to be, and why would you allow it to be heard by someone else?
"raised to be lowered" is good and "tr(n)igger" is good . the rest are just a bunch of garbage
saul shouldve made this album with gescom,skeksi, opus, or adrock from the beastie boys. those are some white boys who'd know how to make a black man sound good ovr their beats. listen to that sensational remix by autechre that remix is razor sharp
nothing against trent reznor i just think he put too much of himself into it and its brutal
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PORICK
from fucking IRELAND on 2007-11-01 11:26 [#02139800]
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everything about this album is terrible.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-11-01 11:54 [#02139818]
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Wow, I'd love to pay $5 to support this release, but the music is just fucking awful.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-11-01 14:59 [#02139891]
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I'm enjoying this album and liking it more the more I listen to it.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2007-11-01 16:55 [#02139940]
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you make this album sound like its nin with a different singer, I just got the album and its nothing like that, yes, Reznors influence is obvious... but not the degree you imply. Having said that i think Reznor is an outstanding producer, and his influence on anyones music is no bad thing.
I'm liking it so far, I think its a grower...
funny that you dropped tracks into the trash after listening, what, once, twice? do people no believe in 'albums' any more?
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-11-01 17:03 [#02139948]
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Won't anybody else miss CDs? I *like* CDs. They often have pretty covers, and it's nice driving to a shop to get a CD, and then driving back and playing the CD in the car. It's like Christmas was when you were six all over again, sort of, vaguely. Now I'll have to make mp3 cds. :-(
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uzim
on 2007-11-02 04:37 [#02140112]
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i like cds as well... i haven't listened to the album yet because i can't decide whether to pay $0 or $5 for it — i want to support the artists, but i'd rather buy a real cd than pay for mp3s...
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2007-11-02 07:52 [#02140174]
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this album is fucking awesome... tracks 1-9 = OK tracks 10-15 = FUCKING WIN.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-11-09 07:15 [#02142231]
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Did cygnus have a mental breakdown in this thread?
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-11-09 07:15 [#02142232]
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also, I like this album.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2007-11-09 08:22 [#02142259]
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The irony is that if you took out Saul's vocals and replaced them with Trent's, um, approximation of the same style... It be WAY better than the last two anal leakages he called NIN albums.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-11-09 08:24 [#02142260]
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Agreed!
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2007-11-09 08:33 [#02142261]
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It's almost like being unable to listen to your own advice. It's easy to tell someone what THEY need to do, though it's impossible to swallow it if the same thing was prescribed to you.
Trent really needs an out of body experience and somehow rethink his entire delivery.
Though I wasnt feeling the Pusicifer album, I'll give it to Maynard that his multiple personality as a vocalist will definitely keep HIM interested, thereby keeping him interesting.
Now imagine relistening to the entirety of Niggy Tardust, with Trent on vocals. Now imagine the album was called Nine Inch Nails' "Insert Industrial Emo Title Here." It would be amazing.
Trents inevitable downfall is his relationship with gravity. He just orbits his own planet staying predictable and dare I say, cliche.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-11-09 10:15 [#02142277]
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Pitchfork gave it a 7.3 but inexplicably laments that it's a challenging listen. Sorry grampa, have some iced tea and Henry Mancini while you're coming down.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2007-11-09 11:11 [#02142285]
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My friend got this and played it in the car. I thought it was just OK. It really reminded me of Tricky for some reason, who is also hit or miss for me.
I really think the self-titled Prick album was a great example of Reznor's signature production style on another artists album. He does some backing vocals (not credited but it sounds just like him) on here and there is also some sequencing that sounds like his. Also the legendary Alan Moulder mixed the album.
Any of you youngsters who weren't listening when this came out in 1995 should check it out.
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mimi
on 2007-11-09 15:14 [#02142333]
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i actually agree with twatface, this shit sucks balls
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SPD
from United States on 2007-11-10 05:26 [#02142407]
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Rez just wanted an excuse to make the most racist album ever, and he USED a racist black man to do it....making it like quintuply racist or something.
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big
from lsg on 2007-11-10 05:41 [#02142408]
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dling no idea who this guy is
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yoyoyo
from cornwall on 2007-11-10 05:44 [#02142409]
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me to but i know who this guy is : )
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uzim
on 2007-11-11 06:53 [#02142694]
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"Rez just wanted an excuse to make the most racist album ever, and he USED a racist black man to do it....making it like quintuply racist or something."
> what... how is it racist?
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uzim
on 2007-11-14 13:23 [#02143594]
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well, anyway i paid $5 (first time i ever pay for digital music) and i must say it was well worth it... this album is at least as good as the self-titled one and one of the best albums of the year. brilliant stuff.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-11-14 15:58 [#02143627]
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dont you say anything about henry mancini.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2007-11-15 12:56 [#02143842]
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anyone notice the fragile era sound on some of the tracks?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-11-15 13:16 [#02143849]
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yeah, it's what Trent does when he can't come up with anything new.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2007-11-15 15:41 [#02143913]
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i meant it in a good way,
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-11-15 20:10 [#02143979]
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trent is only as creative as the people that he hires to be around him (band members/friends etc)
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-11-15 20:17 [#02143980]
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yeah, trent doent make wonderful music, then hires members to help him live or anything......
the Saul is not my cup of tea though
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-11-15 20:22 [#02143985]
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huh?
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-11-15 20:24 [#02143988]
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you basically said trent is shit w/out others, lol-E
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-11-15 20:35 [#02144001]
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yea, i was just trying to figure out what you wrote there...he had a good group of people at one point
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-11-15 20:37 [#02144003]
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"solo/had/has"
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