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We see what you are saying , humans are bad , no one is arguing that mate. We behave stupid But intelligence VS motives and action isn't the same thing. Does hitlers motives and actions make him an unintelligent man ? NO! He probably had a very high IQ , but used it in a very crappy way. Belive me ... i can kick any rats ass in chess =) . Us being smarter then the rest is what in the end makes us bad. Like i said before , the way other animals harmonize with the eko system has nothing to do with intelligence. They don't chose to do soo. They just do cause their evolutional path has gone in line with the rest . Not like us that has taken giant leaps like any succesfull virus does. |
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you're glorifying nature and talking down man too much nature sucks too: you can get eaten by it man made beautiful things too (maybe because of the suffering, but that falls outside the biological approach you're taking) man can't live a 'pure' life like animals. progress or whatcha callit happened because that's in our nature. radical answers aren't the way, we have to make the most of the society we enherited |
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I'm not saying humans are bad - just stupid. Regarding intellectual intelligence, there seems to be two forms. There is the ability to learn and remember things, of which becoming a success in any given field has more to do with motivation and ambition. Although apart from retarded people everyone has the ability to become progressively more "intelligent" in any give field just by reading books or learning from superiors in any given subject. But there is also emotional intelligence, which relates to communication, reading and perception within relationship and your surroundings. This requires a far higher level of intelligence, because although everything is still based on memory, emotional intelligence requires more depth of understanding. In this respect, the likes of Hitler are obviously deluded cretins. Big says, "man made beautiful things too" - beautiful too who? It is only considered beautiful because of culture, which is an intellectual ideology, ie. no substance, no reality. Whether something is considered beautiful or not is entirely down to opinion, it's intellectualising. There is no requirement by nature to measure things in terms of beauty, no requirement for music or paintings and art, all of it has been created from man's boredom, but actually has no importance or relevance whatsoever - other than to fend off your boredom. Like all animals, all that is important, and all that is necessary for the human being is procreation and survival of the species, anything above that has no significance to the body, only the superficial mind. The mind is an illusion generator and human consciousness prevents you from ever experiencing anything, as you can only see things from the perspective of your conditioning, inputted in to your memory from a very early age, most of which information distorted and false. Other animals do not have such conditioning, and live a much more intelligent and natural life - whereas our minds have merely made us unsophisticated squatters in this body. |
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if not beautiful things than at least man made useful things. the bare minimums for humans are: housing, food and clothes. we've gotten better at getting those things, thus our intelligence has made us better off. most animals barely have a conscience (maybe monkeys and dolphins do a bit), therefor they may perhaps experience better as you say but they can't feel happy about it as we can. and, again, we've got this conscience and intelligence so we can't live freely like animals and should use these capabilities for the better. and, yea, maybe we are being a bit stupid, but maybe that's human nature |
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knock knock |
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Who's there? Whoops, you just engaged in a joke, a frivalous and immoral higher though function that doesn't contribute to our survival. |
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read 'the idea of god' in karl jaspers' 'way to wisdom' and you'll be equipped to answer this bitch of a question. |
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monoid is my god |
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blink 182 |
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blink 182 who |
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I don't. No reason convincing enough has ever swayed me into bilieving in the supernatural. Funny, i was brought up in a religious school and i followed the herd as one does when they are younger...but still you dont get religious children, only children of religious parents. All my adult life I have bounced around the athiest and agnostic playground. |
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yes |
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8bitgawd |
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Believing in the supernatural is much more fun than believing what is apparently true, to be honest. |
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I believe ill be in heaven when i actually buy and get my copy of CS2x's 12" and cd. yep thats god. |
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