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By some miracle I was computer savy enough to figure out that 'midi' files existed and that they can be opened in modplug tracker. However they are usually messed up and badly out of sync (for example what would normally be the 64th row of a song would be on row 93 or some gay mis-scale). So I set out to accomplish the seemingly simple task of finding a way to open mid files in some sort of editor/sequencer that works good. First, maybe modplug can open them without messing them up and I just don't have it set correctly. No dice, I can't figure it out. Fine I'll find some sort of different midi specific software. Of course they are called 'midi' but have file name 'mid' so that doubles the amount of google searching you have to do to find anything. And the misleading ebay and porn links already make it hard enough. I could just search for music 'tabs' but I don't know how to read them, and attempting to find a site that will tell you how to read them results in more ebay and porn links. Plus guitar and piano tabs might be differently confusing. So anyway I went to download.com figuring midi sequencer type stuff would be the easiest way and got irritated quickly then went to sourceforge.whatever. Eventually I found jazz++ or whatever midi thing which was hard to find given the mass of redundant search results you have to wade through. I managed to navigate the maze to the apparently correct download link and noticed it is tar.gz compressed. Now I have to find something to unzip that. I ended up getting 7 zip but think I need g zip, who knows. Anyway 7 zip extracted the gz part, but had to re-extract for the tar part. Now I have a folder called jazz (I did, now its in the recycle bin). But when I clicked through the maze to the apparent executables, they still appear zipped and unaccessable despite clearly extracting the bastards. So anyway like 4 hours later I have gotten nowhere as far as importing airman.mid into some program that doesn't fuck it up just to look at/play with/study the notes. |
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True story. |
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stay a while.... s staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay for ever. bwahahah |
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What do you want to do with it, exactly, Ethan Hunt? |
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ROFL |
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Sonic 1's brilliant music on youtube: |
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I want to look at the notes of sonic 1 tracks and others to see how the hell they made them sound so good. Then I want to try and fail miserably making my own tracks. |
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, I think... |
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i dunno if you feel like installing it but reason does a pretty good job with importing midis. it comes in with notes in the right places and then you can assign synths and such to each channel of midi signals |
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why .sid files don't open readable in a sidtracker tellsme! |
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finale: from the looks of it it is music notation stuff. I'm more interested in laying out the midis in a tracker style program since thats what I'm used to. reason: I might have to try that, but its 400 friggin bucks. One might think midis are more primitive music technology and that there might be lots of simple free software easily available. That gave me an idea to try and import midis in the other shit programs I have and hardly ever use: fruity loops: airman.mid imports but is completely mute. Even 'replacing' the stupid sound things with other sound things like 'wasp' doesn't make any sound. Man, can't they label every key on the keyboard instead of only the c's?? Hmm, what's this key, let's see.. 4 up from c.. up c,d,e,f,g, ok, g... what's this key now? renoise: It's mute here too. This shit program is so stupid that the default is to start the program in some sample track. Even when you click file/new, it goes to the sample track. You have to select file/new/'without a template'... hmm, do I always want this sample track as a 'template' for everything I make? Let me think. |
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try the ableton demo sounds like you downloaded the source on that first thing |
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Get yourself a keyboard.. some cheap midi control thing will be enough. Play scales. That helps if you want to be able to get a better grasp on which notes are where. Sheet music isn't all that hard.. when there's one of those large curly things, it curls around the G. The space above is A and the line above that is H (called B in some countries); it's the same as all the white keys. If the curl is a slightly smaller one, more in the style of a c, it curls around F. Do not confuse it with the c marking When there's a # or b either before the note or all the way at the beginning, that means the note is one half tone "off" from what it says. If it's all the way at the beginning, it counts for all notes, except those that are negated. Both #, b and negation holds for the rest of the bar if inserted before a note that isn't the last note. I'm going to assume you know about 1/4, 1/2 and 1/1 notes and all other forms. |
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there's something wrong there around "don't confuse it with a c," which should've ended something like "marking 4/4." |
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it's all for the love of Noll. May his contemporary music touch thousands of hearts. |
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I downloaded ableton live le demo. At first nothing made sound, then I clicked around on stuff 80 million times after configuring the sound card stuff to asio and eventually it at least played a bad quality version of the midi. But clicking around 80 million more times and dragging/dropping stuff/etc didn't result in finding any place where you can see the notes, and if its that non intuitive then its probably not worth hassling with. Maybe I'll just try every cheap little tracker program out there like fast tracker/ mad tracker/ etc. I don't know how people deal with these software behemoths. Music notation seems stupid. A giant curly complex symbol? How about like, a single circle. Isn't that a hell of a lot simpler if that symbol even has a purpose? How about insted of dots with tails you simply write the letter of the note. I have no desire to learn that and you can't likely find sonic 1 sheet music anyway at least for free (plus you'd have to manually enter everything instead of a midi being done already). What a pain. |
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All these stupid programs screw up my 'asio' whatever the hell and now it doesn't seem to work at all. Fucking computers are fucking frustration. Stupid direct sound asio ass audio ass ass stupid music ass. Oh, now if you select direct asdf aweogtij ar then the crap demao gtaoei gaqoig aplay boia wernow the midi s don't play. Ok, let's select midi crap ti n the stupid crap place, asnd what savailab;e/ Nothing . Select from: nothign? This is hell fungus. stupid internal sound card having craputer with crackly sound external soundcard needing r2d2 homobot. FUcking incompatible box of circular logic. stupid ass 1's and zeros all tangled up in asio flypaper, outputting random lists of vegetables stupid thing brews coffee better than it does anything I want, no matter how hard I pound on it, and it doesn't even brew coffee. I opened that shit up ones and most of its 'cards' are pink. Every piece of software is a virus. Things I need to dropkick: my computer, my monitor, my mouse, all my software, definately 'svchost' and my firewall which are in cahoots to annoy me, my keyboard, my speakers (who always 'dream' weird sounds even though nothing is using them). They're all simpleton idiots that couldn't cooperate together to turn a single 0 into a 1. |
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n00b |
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you can import midi files in reason and edit them, and export them. I think there are tons of music authoring programs out there that write in midi, and there was one in particular that let you write music in notation and make a midi file out of it but i don't remember the name. if i remember i tell you |
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OK |
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try out the tutorials in ableton. they're easy. |
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Nevermind, I hate music. This topic has been closed by the moderators. |
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you're my best friend man :) |
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Just letters wouldn't tell you much about the duration of the notes, now, would it? Plus Try keeping track of where you are ACGAGAFEDHACGEFEDGHECFGHEDDDFGEGHFDCDAACADFGHEFGDCDFGEFGHGF DCDFGDACDECAGHEFHDGFHEDGFHCACGADHEGGFCHEGFHEGFHCGDHFEHCAAAC GDHFGACGACHFGDHEFGDHCGEFDFECGEHDGFACFAEGCHDAGFFEAGDHCGFAFAE GAHCAGDFAEGGACHCAGADFEHADCGADFAFEFADADAFHADEHADEHADEGAFFAGA FFAGAFFAFEDEFEDEFAGDFHDGCDHAFGDFDHADCGDAFHADGEDHFEGEEGADHDA CGDFDHEGDAHFADPCDGACGADHFHDAGEGADHFADHFGEAHDHCAGDDGCGADGEHA DHFGAEHDAGFADGFHAEEHDAGFADFXCHACHDHCDGEFDFHDAGEGADGDGAFGAEH DADGFAGDFADHCHDCHDAGDFGAEHADHF |
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But with trackers its like: c---g-e-c---c-c- plus easy to see simultaneous channels g-e-g-e-g-e-g-c- All well who cares. |
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