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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-09-22 06:29 [#02122984]
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A while ago, I discovered a method of downloading tracks that artists put onto their myspace pages. Myspace tracks stream at 96kpbs/22khz through the player, but what most people don't realise is the original MP3 which you uploaded isn't actually physically altered in any way and can be accessed directly. The result is all these fancy promos that artists upload to their sites can be downloaded without them realising.
I've seen a few tools online which automate the process, but they only seem to download the STD file (which is the 96/22 version myspace streams directly), but through simple manipulation of the xml document, the full-quality originally uploaded file can be accessed.
I downloaded and listened to the new Harmonic 313 tracks by Mark Pritchard and it got me thinking how shitty this could be for the artists if unscrupulous types realised this and downloaded/shared their music before its released.
Just a tip: if you're putting music on myspace, encode the mp3s to 96kbps to avoid these kind of problems. Oh and if you don't believe me, link me to your myspace page with music that you uploaded at full quality (192+ for example) and i'll show ya its real :o)
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-09-22 06:32 [#02122986]
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and how does one download the original songs? of course, im only asking cos some artists put up unreleased songs and whatnot on their myspace sites, and we get out of it is the 96kbps mp3s, which sound like ass.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-09-22 06:38 [#02122987]
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1) You need to get the user id of the account/myspace page you want to download from. This can easily be done by accessing their page and then clicking the "send user a message" button. In your web url, you will find something like the following:
http://messaging.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=mail.mess age&friendID=4094700&MyToken=4c7c2a0d-0762-441a-91e9-df37fc 90ca08
The number after friendID= is what you need.
2) The myspace player has its own url which parses an XML document. Basically, this is all the key info in your music player. The URL is:
http://mediaservices.myspace.com/services/media/musicplayer xml.ashx?b=USERID
USERID is of course the number of the account you want to access.
3) An XML/text document will now load. This has a lot of infomation regarding the music player, but you are looking specifically for the following:
durl="http://cache10-music01.myspacecdn.com/73/std_4c6951aa 9ba0387d5c0be1540c5ec720.mp3"
This URL lets you download the 96k recompressed version. However, if you change the std text to full like so:
durl="http://cache10-music01.myspacecdn.com/73/full_4c6951a a9ba0387d5c0be1540c5ec720.mp3"
You can download the original MP3 which the artist/label submitted to the myspace site.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-09-22 06:39 [#02122989]
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Oh and I only post that with the hope that you'll all encode 96kbps mp3s for myspace in future.
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woj
on 2007-09-22 13:02 [#02123052]
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401: Unauthorized
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cronenburger
from Ireland on 2007-09-22 13:12 [#02123053]
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401: Unauthorized
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blaaard
from Imatra (close to sky) (Finland) on 2007-09-22 13:13 [#02123054]
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works okay! good thread... :D
i promise that from now on i'll only put crappy music to myspace.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2007-09-22 14:16 [#02123066]
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this is most interesting.
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George_Kaplan
on 2007-09-22 14:24 [#02123069]
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lol myspace is such a mess i feel sorry for all those chumps uploading their prereleases
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-09-22 15:08 [#02123083]
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401: Unauthorized
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-23 04:58 [#02123225]
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I just record them, it's good enough quality for me.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-09-23 06:13 [#02123251]
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Works for me. Ta Brisk.
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hexane
on 2007-09-23 06:21 [#02123254]
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Suddenly i don't feel as 1337 as i did before this thread was made..God forbid that ppl should enjoy high quality tunes
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freqy
on 2007-09-23 06:30 [#02123256]
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brisk your avatar is insane hahaha i love it. yet i'm very scared too
...that i might get beat up and slung into a gas chamber because my hairs are no blonde. and so much more too .. hahah all that from a little picture.awww so cute.
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mark p
from Sydney (Australia) on 2007-09-24 06:05 [#02123623]
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Thats crazy, cheers for the heads up. So now im forced to put my new music up on myspace at shit lo-res mp3's
and fade them early, which is a pain in the arse. I put them decent quality so people could maybe get more of an idea of what the tracks are like as they always sound shitter coming off the player. Someone at Warp warned me last week that people are rinsing tracks straight off myspace.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-09-24 06:36 [#02123624]
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Mark,
I'm not 100% but I believe that streaming from within the myspace player is at 96kbps/22hz, but streaming from outside your page (aka if someone adds one of your tracks to their profile) is better quality. Regardless though, theres really no need to put high quality / vbr files on myspace as the user would never appreciate the sound quality anyway after myspace bastardises it.
Yeah its crappy really but this is the reality of myspace. It is a stinking sack of shit with more security holes than windows, but its still undeniably an excellent tool for promotion. Oh well, the tracks are fantastic anyway sir so i'm sure plenty of people will buy em regardless!
Nice one.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2007-09-24 07:44 [#02123658]
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Duly noted. In the future i will keep it low quality.
: )
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oyvinto
on 2007-09-24 08:52 [#02123705]
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401: Unauthorized..
so this only works if you are able to download the file in the first play, but wants the altered (full) version.. doesn't seem to work with artists that has bloacked download in their profile..
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oyvinto
on 2007-09-24 08:52 [#02123707]
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play=place
gew...
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-09-26 15:25 [#02125208]
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To all you people getting 401 errors:
I recommend you fix the problem.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-09-26 15:36 [#02125214]
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haha yes. I should rethingy my tracks because I wouldn't want my record label getting pissed at the fact it could impact my 0 sales figure.
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Combo
from Sex on 2007-09-26 15:38 [#02125219]
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It works very well, thanks Briskotte! I don't get errors.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-26 15:56 [#02125228]
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Cheers, this is quite a good find.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2008-01-27 15:47 [#02168124]
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amazing find brisk lucky i always convert my mp3's to 96 kbps before i upload them, just so the transfer goes faster
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-01-27 19:44 [#02168148]
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Heaven forfend someone might hear your music at a decent quality.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2008-01-29 16:49 [#02168980]
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exactly!
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2008-01-30 02:35 [#02169263]
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Yes, but if an artist uploads pre-releases onto myspace (and lets face it, they do) only for someone to steal the track from myspace without them realising only to distribute it through traditional p2p methods, the sales for that release when it comes to retail will fall. Especially if the track takes a few months to be released (and for independent labels, it probably will)
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