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offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2007-09-21 12:34 [#02122637]
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religion isn't the root of all evil

religion AND science is.

pwnd*


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2007-09-21 12:48 [#02122644]
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he is just a silly american.


 

offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2007-09-21 12:55 [#02122647]
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Dawkins isn't American. He's British.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2007-09-21 12:59 [#02122652]
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that was a good 7 minutes of hilariously painful
disinformation on the internet there


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-09-21 13:00 [#02122653]
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would you care to elaborate why you feel that science is the
root to all evil?


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2007-09-21 13:12 [#02122661]
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he's working on the equation right now


 

offline misantroll from Switzerland on 2007-09-21 13:16 [#02122664]
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Tom Cruise is the tuss of the scientology


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2007-09-21 13:24 [#02122667]
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science has given a great power to do evil on a very
different level. a physical evil. not just a mental one.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2007-09-21 13:25 [#02122670]
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it's almost like...

well...

the more we know. the more problems we create for ourselves

maybe we should just leave it all be.

big nosey noses


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-09-21 13:48 [#02122680]
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YOU TALK OUT OF YOUR ASS.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2007-09-21 14:06 [#02122684]
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i just had my first internet deja vu


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2007-09-21 14:23 [#02122694]
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science is a process of learning efficiently. that's not
bad imo.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-21 14:24 [#02122695]
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who is dawkins


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2007-09-21 14:25 [#02122697]
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Richard Dawkins


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2007-09-21 14:35 [#02122706]
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hey hey hey!

stop shooting up the messenger.

i just heard that 'science is bad' that's all.

jeeeeeeeeezus

some people!

fuck ME


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-21 14:40 [#02122710]
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isnt it kind of ridiculous for an individual to claim god
doesnt exist all the while they probably subscribe to cable
television and love VH1?


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2007-09-21 14:42 [#02122711]
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No. What are you talking about?


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-21 14:44 [#02122712]
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also i think it is dumb when atheists self-proclaim
themselves publically like they should be famous for not
believing in god

theres an american comedian whose name i cant recall right
now who, whenever hes in front of a bunch of people lets it
all out about how its impossible for god to exist and it's
like you kinda wonder why he doesnt tell jokes instead


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2007-09-21 14:44 [#02122713]
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i think mr dawkins rather fancies himself as god
actually

i mean he's got the look


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2007-09-21 14:45 [#02122714]
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"Let's now stop being so damned respectful!"


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-21 14:46 [#02122716]
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well to me its strange when someone believes something
supernatural like god does not exist but they will
acknowledge the existance of something ridiculous like VH1
or MTV

ive sat in front of people say, like, "MAN! GOD CAN'T EXIST,
DUDE! SERIOUSLY! LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE, I MEAN, DUDE! C'MON!"
and then talk about reality tv shows. its confusing!


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-21 14:47 [#02122717]
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its george carlin. he is an atheist but it seems if he were
given the opportunity to be God he would be the first to
hand in his resume as a .pdf file


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2007-09-21 14:49 [#02122719]
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yes that too does baffle me timbers


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2007-09-21 14:50 [#02122720]
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Sorry, you've lost me. You're saying there isn't really a
channel on TV called VH1 and all the viewers are just
hallucinating James Blunt videos and "Behind the Music"? Why
would anyone imagine that?


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2007-09-21 14:51 [#02122722]
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don't you dare

carlin would eat you for breakfast

as the pre-cereal appetiser


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2007-09-21 14:54 [#02122724]
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Well, to be fair, Dawkins is the chair for the Public
Understanding of Science at the University of Oxford, so his
actual job is to promote science and be outspoken about it.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2007-09-21 14:56 [#02122725]
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hah, woah, what?


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2007-09-21 14:57 [#02122726]
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dawkins is a great (and respected) scientist
but unfortunately
a terrible philosopher


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-21 15:15 [#02122732]
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i dont know exactly how my brain is configged, but yeah,
that's how i see things. i can't handle how a person can say
all-powerful, omnipotent beings are not real but they can
turn around and say justin timberlake is


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-21 15:17 [#02122733]
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if i ever met dawkins i would ask him to prove to me that
his existance is possible. same with carlin, etc. i'd ask
them to prove to me they were real and then probably just
stare at them and chew gum!


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2007-09-21 15:19 [#02122734]
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are you denying the existence of justin timberlake?

i don't mind if you are. we can unimagine him away


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2007-09-21 15:20 [#02122735]
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well first you would need to define 'what is real'


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-21 15:22 [#02122738]
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our souls are older than the planet earth itself!


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-21 15:23 [#02122739]
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something that is real, i dont know. its pretty obvious when
something is real. its pretty obvious also when something is
not real. thats a tough question to answer


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-09-21 15:24 [#02122741]
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that supports my point tho; unless you can tell me what is
real and what is not real i dont want to hear you saying god
or clownfish or calcium allotropes or tv controllers are not
real


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2007-09-21 15:33 [#02122745]
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and then there's the fact that nobody knows more than anyone
else. so why raise above one another?

LET US JOIN HANDS TOGETHER

JOIN HANDS IN IGNORANCE

IN IGNORANCE TOGETHER. FOREVER


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-21 15:35 [#02122746]
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Dawkins would dissect the question with razor like precision
and complete control of all constituent words and
effortlessly annihilate it. Look at his books, not the
'entertaining' public image produced by south park. He has
some of the greatest understanding of the world how it truly
is.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2007-09-21 15:58 [#02122754]
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i think i'll let danni clear this one up

ping!ping!


 

offline Barcode from United Kingdom on 2007-09-21 16:50 [#02122797]
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It's easy to be seduced by Dawkins, because any sane person
realises the concept of God in man's image is utterly
ludicrous - but if you ever watch his programmes you will
see he is as much wrapped up in his own beliefs as those he
opposes and is therefore no different to any religious
believer.

To propagate a belief that god does not exist is just as
stupid as propagating a belief that god does exist. The
problem with the world is not beliefs, but human being's
desire to coerce others into believing, which is exactly
what Dawkins is doing. He's just a different brand of
cigarettes.

I was watching one of his programmes the other day where he
was ridiculing religious believers for living in a fantasy
world, before going on to say, "who needs fantasy, when you
have the beautiful poetry of nature", well poetry IS
fantasy! Poetry is an ideal, a concept, a philosophy. Nature
is not interested in poetry, it's not interested in
anything, it is what it is. So to look at life through a
poetic lens is equally as deranged a fantasy as any other.


 

offline misantroll from Switzerland on 2007-09-21 16:55 [#02122798]
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You all sound sooo clever... Fuck you


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2007-09-21 16:58 [#02122800]
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I think you might have misunderstood his intention


 

offline OK on 2007-09-21 17:01 [#02122802]
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god and religion are two separate issues


 

offline OK on 2007-09-21 17:02 [#02122803]
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dawkins just says that irrational beliefs are not harmless.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-09-21 17:05 [#02122805]
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Ignore Dawkins and instead focus on Colin Wilson, the 20th
Century's greatest writer.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2007-09-21 17:57 [#02122826]
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to clarify, my post was a response to barcode, not
the rude dude.


 

offline Barcode from United Kingdom on 2007-09-21 18:12 [#02122839]
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I wouldn't defend him unless you'd watched it.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2007-09-21 18:23 [#02122846]
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fair enough.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-21 19:16 [#02122857]
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You're reviewing the most entertaining form of information
regarding this, a google video probably. His books are
brilliantly written with a lot of fascinating analysis of
arms races, replication, altruism, why things behave in
certain ways such as ants behaving more like a single
genetic being given their differing core of replication
compared to ours, etc. with tons of off tangent brilliance,
neat software examples of evolution. One books peripheral
part on bat sonar alone is excellent. Great speculation on
the origin of genetic replicators. Pretty much every page is
elegantly crafted and he has a mastery of the english
language using formidably precise and defined vocabulary to
reduce seemingly difficult problems/arguments into their
true retarded form. He's a master in pedagogy and I agree
with whatever review said his writing makes the reader feel
like a genius. The god stuff gets the most attention,
predictably given religions memetic foothold. He saw
religion as a brainwashing memetic illness plaguing
humanity's children from an early age and made a decision to
be a sort of activist against it. I guess he held people in
higher regard than they deserved thinking replicating memes
in humans can be battled and won. As soon as things like
information storing devices (books etc) took off, humans
branched off into quite different beings based on levels
cultural learning (as opposed to genetic difference). Like a
telephone system, adding more information to a brain
increases connections exponentially so the learned can be a
fuck of a lot smarter than the ignorant. He's quite learned
but gets more attention because of his book memes than
others I'd guess.


 

offline misantroll from Switzerland on 2007-09-21 19:43 [#02122860]
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you look so clever... fuck you


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2007-09-21 20:14 [#02122867]
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YEAH!


 


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