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optimus prime
on 2007-08-23 13:14 [#02113465]
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for the last week i haven't been able to stop thinking about death. how i'm going to die eventually and that'll be that. i'll cease to exist. it's not only eating me alive but eating me out. i haven't been able to behave normally because of it. i'm not feeling depressed, just frightened and frustrated and helpless.
how do you guys cope with thoughts of the inevitable?
sincerely, optimus prime
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-08-23 13:24 [#02113468]
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Hi, I've been giving that subject an unhealthy amount of thought lately, as well. Basically I'm terrified by the thought of dying, and as I believe that there is no afterlife, I had better damn well make the best of this one, which I haven't. I usually just think about it until I manage stop thinking about it. That's unfortunately my only strategy: just hope that someone or something changes the subject before I go totally mental.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-08-23 13:24 [#02113469]
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At this point I would like to add:
:(
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-23 13:26 [#02113471]
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there is no solution
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dogvomit
from Cotttage Cheese on 2007-08-23 13:27 [#02113472]
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Well, take solace in the fact that everybody (apart from Walt Disney) has faced / will face it and,.. you know,.. keep writing turgid prose.
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optimus prime
on 2007-08-23 13:29 [#02113474]
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bad dog!
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optimus prime
on 2007-08-23 13:33 [#02113476]
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i try to think of it like going to sleep forever but i have really awesome dreams when i sleep, and i know i won't be having any such awesome dreams when i die. :(
man, no semblance of consciousness . . . just absolute, pure nothing. the end. basically the world is over.
oh god.
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optimus prime
on 2007-08-23 13:33 [#02113477]
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shit, guys, i know this is lame but i'm seriously having a breakdown.
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TheDogsBallix
from corkadorgha on 2007-08-23 13:41 [#02113478]
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i think about getting shot, shooting myself, scratching my nails at a rough surface until they tear away from the fingers, i think about these things nightly, but i don't moan about it
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dogvomit
from Cotttage Cheese on 2007-08-23 13:42 [#02113479]
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Stay on the Internet, especially on a board where no one particularly cares for you, you're bound to perk up. By no means go and speak to anyone or ask for a hug.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-08-23 13:42 [#02113480]
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Start by going outside with a bottle of water, take a walk to get some fresh air. Drink the water. You could die at any moment, any one of us can. You probably won't die for quite a long time, though. I walked around for a month thinking I was going to die every day from some random occurance, like I would slip in the shower and break my neck or a plane would crash into my house. At the end of that month, I realized how ridiculous it is to worry about the whole mess. Whatever will be, will be. You can't change your mortality, nor can you create an afterlife if there isn't already one. We all just have to go through the motions, and do the best we can with what we have, until eventually one day we don't wake up. It's that simple.
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TheDogsBallix
from corkadorgha on 2007-08-23 13:42 [#02113481]
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cancer is another one too, that's certainly a favourite
if it's advice you're after, then how's about you root out your local drug dealer, buy as much acid as possible, and take it all at once. you should be right as rain by the morning
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-08-23 13:58 [#02113488]
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rofl
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-08-23 14:01 [#02113489]
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go read some heidegger and get over it.
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rad smiles
on 2007-08-23 14:02 [#02113490]
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how do you think the average (insert fucked up third worlder's country) feels?
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2007-08-23 14:06 [#02113494]
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I've had this exact conversation many times with girl-acquaintances after astronomy lessons.
what are you, a girl or something!? HAHAHAHA *point point point*
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-08-24 06:35 [#02113803]
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Seriously, there is no solution. Don't try.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-24 06:41 [#02113806]
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have sex more, get loads of girls pregnant, this is the best method to take your mind off death.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-08-24 06:50 [#02113807]
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You'll never ever accept the idea of death. All you can do is build an elaborate lie or forget about it. It's a paradox of reason and it's stupid and horrible.
Deal with it even though you can't deal with it.
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2007-08-24 06:54 [#02113810]
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Why are you worried so much about it? It is fairly likely that when you die you'll be old and most of your friends and the vast majority of your family will already be dead. That will change your outlook on things quite a lot, I imagine and then you might not be as scared of dying as you are now. You might even look forward to it.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-08-24 06:58 [#02113812]
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No, it will only make things worse because you won't be able to tell yourself that you're still young and death is a long time away :)
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2007-08-24 07:02 [#02113815]
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yes but you would probably have far less to live for. Less friends, less family, less mobility, less hobbies, no job, less appetite, more pain, more bitterness
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-08-24 07:12 [#02113827]
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That would be part of the elaborate lie I mentioned earlier. Pain and loneliness are nothing in the face of death. You'll never accept death, I mean it. Acceptance is denial.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-08-24 07:13 [#02113828]
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Nothing wrong with denial, of course, since it's the only way to cope.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-08-24 07:16 [#02113830]
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sounds like you need to visit the whorehouse.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-08-24 07:23 [#02113831]
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Nah it's alright I feel good. I find it more funny than anything at the moment, because it's so tragically unresolvable.
That's because I'm in denial of course.
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2007-08-24 08:12 [#02113851]
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What makes you think that one philosophy, your philosophy, fits all? There are many people who are completely at peace with the idea of death; Buddhists for example. How can you say that the only possible way of them managing to reach this state is by way of an elaborate lie or forgetting about it? They certainly haven't forgotten about it. Quite the opposite in fact, they meditate about it and think about it thoroughly.
I am also not particularly scared or worried about death. I've not forgotten about it, as I've had to deal with quite a few friends/members of my family dying recently, and so it is quite constantly on my mind. There is no elaborate lie that I have weaved for myself, no denial. I'm fully aware that I might die in a painful way, and that it might be the end of everything. I'm also aware that it might not hurt and it might be very sudden, but know that there's no point spending my entire life worrying about my death instead of my life. Where's the lying or denial there?
You seem to be trying to make certain, philosophical and profound statements, but are failing to back them up with any kind of logic or reasoning.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-08-24 08:13 [#02113852]
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You just have to accept it.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-08-24 08:20 [#02113856]
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don't be such a sissy. imagine living forever. a fate worse than death i can assure you!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-08-24 08:24 [#02113858]
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Logic and reasoning are kind of at an end facing death, though...
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-08-24 08:31 [#02113862]
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Okay I'll put it differently. You might accept the idea that you'll have to die someday. You can't accept or understand the idea of yourself dying.
I'm trying to find some backing up but I'm lazy and all the Internet is giving me is those stupid five stages of grief.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-08-24 08:32 [#02113863]
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WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY
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TruthGiver
from United States on 2007-08-24 09:27 [#02113881]
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Well I can only say that we at material things.. that said we also exist on energy. Now imagine yourself as an energy being. So what I am trying to say is from what we came is where we go.. Now with energy we can still exist on material things like computers, music stuff and the people that draw your energy for there deeds.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2007-08-24 09:45 [#02113884]
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i'm not sure why, but when i was an atheist (and later, agnostic) the idea that my existence would end absolutely with the death of my body didn't bother me at all. it does sound pretty terrible.
i recommend learning to meditate (to initiate the discipline of taking responsibility for your thoughts and to direct them to your satisfaction). you need to learn to let go of persistent thoughts that you're obsessing over. you might view your persistent thoughts as an annoying habit, and one that you want to lose. you're the only one who is directing your thoughts, and you are the one who is choosing to dwell on this discomfort.
also, choose to focus on the simple pleasures of life. it may sound silly at first, but try setting aside just a few minutes a day to explore in detail the texture of various objects. pick an object with an interesting texture, examine it closely, and feel it with your hands and fingertips. feel your hands. try to think only about the details of this experience while you're doing it. do it for only five minutes or so, at the most. whatever it is, make sure it is different from what you ordinarily do. don't decide to sit down and focus on xlt.
lastly, i'd like to add that you should not worry, optimus prime; you're going to be ok.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-08-24 09:53 [#02113887]
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Behold: The Poodle of Life!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2007-08-24 09:56 [#02113889]
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you're right.
again.
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2007-08-24 10:54 [#02113905]
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Well you can't just make statements and provide no arguments to back your theory up! Otherwise it's like saying, for example, "God exists and if you don't believe it, you're either lying or in denial! Because I said so!" :D
You can't expect to persuade others to come round to your way of thinking without giving good reasons why you think it to be the case. As your argument stands without anything to back it up, I could just ask, "why can't you understand the idea of yourself dying?" Surely it's just like any other complex idea. You haven't died before, yourself. But you have spoken to or read literature by people who are dying and have been told how it feels to them. You cannot know what it actually feels LIKE to die, but that doesn't mean you are lying or in denial about the idea of it happening.
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-08-24 11:02 [#02113907]
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you know what its like to not have life, just remember before you were born.
here's a cool pic
try not to worry.
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rad smiles
on 2007-08-24 11:11 [#02113908]
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wow that really is an amazing photo.
remember: life is the only thing worth living for.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-08-24 11:24 [#02113913]
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Lara Croft and the Poodle of Life
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-08-24 12:03 [#02113936]
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think about pussies it works for me
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-08-24 12:13 [#02113944]
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Nobody ever said life was easy/fair.
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-08-24 12:15 [#02113946]
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woah, i was gonna make a joke, but it looks like thad's totally right.
LAZY_TITLE
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-08-24 12:20 [#02113949]
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No results mom.
You make that joke, you go right on ahead and make that joke, make it loud, make it proud. Dont be a shy little kitty.
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-08-24 12:28 [#02113952]
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You're totally, wrong Thad. Check out where this guy assures us that life is both easy and fair.
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-08-24 12:28 [#02113953]
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Shit.
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optimus prime
on 2007-08-24 12:33 [#02113956]
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yeah, dariusgriffin is right. man, this sucks. i don't wanna die. holy carps in a bucket. this is a huge freakin' curse to have just for being born.
boo to this.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-08-24 12:36 [#02113959]
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We have had enough suicides and misfortunes on the board, we dont need one more.
Just take a nap Mr. Prime, you still have a place in my heart form your Xlt05 Christmas present :)
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-08-24 12:37 [#02113960]
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You will die we will all die ! It's what makes life so exciting, so come on ! Die ! hum sorry Live !!!
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oyvinto
on 2007-08-24 12:43 [#02113963]
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death in everyday life
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