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Anyone had them ? I wouldn't wish this shit upon my worst enemy. Its hell!! It started 7 or 8 months ago and i can't take it no more, im gona go seek proffesional help next week . (expensive!!!) I thought i could manage this by myself cause i have always considered myself a strong sane person , but the shit just wont go away. The drugs triggered it for me in the first place. Stress triggers it for other people. I havn't touched any substance since it first hapened but it's a part of me now. All of my friends who have been taking drugs have had similar panic experiences and stoped taking drugs sorted their lifes and their panic dissorders have gone away in a few months . But for me its different. FUCK!! I feel great for a period and i think i have concered it it but noooo! All of the sudden i get a fucking panic attack again. I live with my parents now cause i can't be by myself in my apartment . I have to take sleeping pills and watch tv (distract my brain), and know my parents is close by if i go insane to stress down enogh to be able to sleep. I hate it. Anyone know what im talking about? Whats your story? There are about 10 types of panic attack syndromes and you usualy get about 4 of them. I get... , Loosing touch of reality/the feeling of going insane , Iregular Heartbeat , Nausea , Irrational thoughts and not being able to look/think forward for like 1 sec |
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drugs destroyed me when i was a teenager and i'm still recovering after about five years of being drug-free. my speech patterns are inconsistent (strange christopher walken-like pauses between words) and i'm overly paranoid. anyone who thinks drugs are cool is a total idiot. |
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i've only had about one anxiety attack but it was so overwhelming that i called a suicide hotline just to hear a reassuring voice. |
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I used to suffer horrendous panic attacks at the tail-end of my drug career (I stopped taking drugs when I was 22). I spent about 4 months in an almost constant state of fucked-upness, whereby I thought I was at the very edge of consciousness about to plummet into the abyss. They're like extraordinarily unpleasant O.B.E.s |
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on a serious note, i've had panic attacks without ever having had recreational drugs in my life VERY not nice :( hope all gets better for you Sido man :( |
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i've had two girlfriend who had 'em. no fun at all |
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Damn. Good luck, hopefully whatever treatment you'll be getting does work. What exactly will it be? I don't regularly have them but I think I've had two panic attacks during times of great stress. One during my second year of university, just felt like a heart attack. I didn't feel overly stressed but in retrospect I probably was, I was lost and self-destructing and had to leave school. Second one was last year. After never being on a steroid in my life, I was put on a huge dosage of Prednisone and one of its many side-effects can be heart palpitations. I had them all night, couldn't sleep and eventually got the same ''heart attack'' feeling. |
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but on the plus side you now have massive muscles, right? |
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I remember you talking about those, Jay. |
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Amen!! I have many awesome great drug experiences to look back on with a smile but in the end i have to say FUCK DRUGS!! Its not worth it at all when i look at the things im strugeling with now. I have some speech problems too (hey hey hey Weed All day ,Every day) . I stumble on some words some times. I can relate too that " just to hear a reassuring voice" thing. I have too call my mom , dad or a good friend when i get an attack. I loose touch of reality and hearing a familiar voice brings me back , and i can start to calm down. When i had my first attack i called my parents (first i thought i should call an ambulance) and my dad came and picked me up .I remember standing out in the middle of swedish cold ass winter in a t shirt and thin trainer pants , stooned out of my mind calling him every 30 seconds "where are you , are you here yet?" I hugged him for an hour and confessed everything i had been doing for like the last 3 years .When i got HOME to my parents there was an open fire going and my mom was there and everything was warm and safe and i started crying. An hour earlyer i wanted to blow my brains out with a gun just to make the pain go away. My parents werent mad at me. They just looked ahead and wanted too know how they could help me get better. My mom hold my hand until i finaly passed out. I love them. |
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Yeah i have regular anxiety attacks now wich is hell . But an anxiety attack enchansed by a drug....pfew..thats something else. i wouldn't wish that upon Adolf Hitler himself. Pure Mind Hell!! It's hard to describe it with words. You try to describe it Paul. You are good with words. |
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The attacks I had were like my consciousness rushing upwards and attempting to flee my body, and my mind reacting in sheer terror, and a loss of personal identity which was frightening. The childlike shock of 'Who am I?' as my sense of self seemed to be floating off into the ether, possibly never to be seen again. I especially sympathise with you because you don't have to be actually experiencing a panic attack in the here and now; just knowing that one might hit at any time is paralysing.. I could barely leave my flat during the worst of it (and I had a job, too), and I didn't tell anyone what I was experiencing in case they thought that I was falling apart (which I was). It's the general loss of function during the worst period of attacks, the shakiness and the sapped energy, which really blows. I really do hope this period of your life passes soon, Sido! :] |
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As shit as human life is at least we're not lab monkeys that get tested as crash dummies. Given that humanity is completely evil, the only moral thing to do is grab the deadliest weapons you can find and head toward the largest human gathering. The birds would have deserved planet dominance and made a utopia but they wisely chose to fly instead of have opposable thumbs. |
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"The childlike shock of 'Who am I?' as my sense of self seemed to be floating off into the ether, possibly never to be seen again. " Excellent!! Thats the way i feel when im in that state. Also ,classic big thoughts like" the universe never ends" and "whats my purpose" and such totaly fucks me over and is a big no no for me now . I hate that my mind is so fragile now. I have to filter myself to stay sane . I want to be my normal calm self again. The thing that tricks you into the drugie lifestyle is that in the beginning you feel you grow as a person and its a wonderfull process , but all of the sudden it totaly flipps over to the opposite and you are not ready for it one bit. you don't have to be actually experiencing a panic attack in the here and now; just knowing that one might hit at any time is paralysing.. Excactly! Its a vicious circle. Thank you. It feels good knowing others know what im talking about. Thank you all for posting in this thread. Please share your thoughts on this. |
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It's really good that you told people close to you... one of the main reasons my own period of attacks went on for so long is because I didn't tell people. I eventually told my sister-in-law, and it was her who told I was having panic attacks, and reassured me and showed me that it wasn't unique to me and that I wasn't losing my mind. Knowing that empowered me and enabled me to fight them, and fight them I did. So, good on you, Sido... I'm sure that you will combat your attacks soon, just hang in there and remain positive and focused :) |
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What kind of drugs did you use that fucked you up that way? |
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Damn! that must be hard having the attacks and not knowing what it was . You really must have been thinking you where going insane!? When i got my first one i knew i what it was "fuck im having a panic attack!" , yet my brain was in such an irrational chaotic state i couldn't shake it. I have had bad drug trips before but i instantly knew what this was. Its like a big wave that runs over you and you can't stop it. Nowdays i usualy can stop the attacks. But sometimes that wave is just to godamn big!! I have now finaly surendered and am going to seek help. Scary shit talking about your inner problems with a stranger. |
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I have tried many things once or twice , but the thing that has really fucked me up in the long run is my almost everyday weed and alchohol abuse . I have difficulties handling stress now cause i have been stooned for years. My body can't remember how to do it cause the maurijuana used do do it for me. As soon as trouble acours like stress at work , economical problems or love trouble i panic like a little gay elephant (hahaha) . |
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well i'm glad i don't have panic attacks because i like weed and alcohols |
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I've dealt with acute panic attacks for 10 years; I know your pain very well. Fight or flight reponse - but you can't run from your body. Read many books on it and it helps put things in perspective. These days I'll feel one coming on maybe once a year and can work my way out of it with breathing exercises before it goes full blown. It's all about unlocking that diaphram and allowing yourself to fully and slowly exhale. If you can't manage and you're full blown - take a valium or xanax. You'll be ok in 15 min. |
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Thanks. for the advice .Theres a new book out now in sweden that the papers been writing about called "don't panic" . It is suposed to have been cured 80 procent of the readers in some survey. Im gona give it a try. 10 years!!! Damn!!! I feel for you brother. Drug related or stress / depression ? |
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i get them after a bad lsd trip. i experience them in a paranoid kinda delusion or feeling of going insane. I feel that people can hear my thoughts, then I reason and when i convince myself that that isn't possible i start thinking that i'm actually talking out loud my thoughts and unable to notice. i think i'm managing them and they are getting either lighter or i care about them less and less. but i think i'm getting better. but from what i read on your posts mine are much less serious as I can somehow control myself during one (it's just that i don't know how well/if i'm actually controlling myself). but it fucking sucks to KNOW you're not the same person you were just because of a drug you took. the thing that sucks the most is that i can't get high and not have a serious strong panic attack anymore. |
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Don't we all =) Good times man! Its like a lottery game tho , some can keep going all their lifes having a good time but if your unlucky you get butfucked and panic like a little gay elephant (lol again) . Like in Jamaica everyone smookes weed all day , no one ever stops and thinks "hey maybe this isn't so good for me" cause its such a big part of their culture/life style. There are no panic attacks there. "Everything irie man!". Or 23 year old something hip party people dj's/design students/club owners thinking extasy is the answer to life getting vip threatment knowing everyone bullshit.snort a line here and there type shit .I know a few of these people and i don't get how they can never stop and think. They just keep going like theres no tomorow. Its when you stop and think the drugs fuck you in the ass ...hard! . When this bad shit started for me all my friends had stoped using drugs and kinda settled down with girls . I was left behind alone in my apartment by myself with a fat sack of murdah skunk and a case of beer and my thoughts . BAM!! panic attacks!! My body/brain telling me to stop this shit!.Grow up! |
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I've never had a panic attack, however most of my friends who were expiermenting with psycadellics around the time I was ended up with them. Everything in moderation guys. And I would recommend against LSD in general, for everyone... too many after effects. |
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word! |
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"Like in Jamaica everyone smookes weed all day , no one ever stops and thinks "hey maybe this isn't so good for me" cause its such a big part of their culture/life style. There are no panic attacks there. "Everything irie man!". With dumb racist ideas like that you deserve panic attacks. |
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dony worry be happy hehe http://svt.se/content/1/c6/84/28/31/domarattacken-370x190.j pg |
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"Drug related or stress / depression ?" it's all wrapped up in the same deal. people prone to depression are prone to stress, self-medicating (drugs), anxitey attacks, eating disorders, etc. it's a control thing. fear. most people who are susceptible to panic attacks start getting them between their late teens and mid twenties - around the same time that many are using recreational drugs (or having image issues, experiencing big life changes, and so on). the anxiety attack sufferer begins associating the attacks with drug use (which CAN trigger attacks in cases). drugs are not the CAUSE of your condition - whether you knew it or not you already had some level of depression/anxiety and were self-medicating for it. the real bitch about panic attacks are not the attacks themselves but the ASSOCIATIONS which lead to a constant fear of having the attacks. this is why people become agoraphobics. had an attack while driving? walking down a particular street? in a movie theater? thinking about your father? your brain will remind you next time you are in that place (or thought) and then comes the fear of more attacks. understanding all this (get books on it! read read read!) will lead to fewer (and milder) attacks and make the whole thing quite reasonable to deal with - I promise. these days, even when the very rare attack starts up I can kill it without having to take a tranquilizer (something most sufferers will have with them at all times the first few years... valium, xanax, ativan, etc). it will all be fine when you can keep the fear from your mind. |
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You wouldn't wish a panic attack upon Hitler? I don't know...You seem pretty wound up, I mean...a lot of people smoke weed and just relax. The thing that drugs do is surface underlying psychological disorders, so if you're prone to depression or anxiety, it runs in the family, whatever, you're probably going to have to deal with that side effect. I myself went through these things you guys are describing, the whole disconnection from reality, not feeling real, losing an identity, but I wouldn't blame the drugs. It's all psychosomatic, you're not really disconnected from reality, you haven't really lost your identity. Besides, what's wrong with questioning the universe? Questioning our existence, ourselves, our reality. You were put into an unfamiliar territory of perception, it's a blessing in disguise. Sure, don't do drugs anymore, but make the best of this. The Buddhists consider this a step in the path to enlightenment, a step away from our comfortable realities. But if you can't stand it I recommend you ignore these thoughts completely, that's how I dealt with it. Every time I thought about feeling unreal or hopeless or destroyed I'd just immediately think about something else, don't give it another seconds thought. The only thing that's not real is your paranoia, so you just have to ignore, don't consider it an issue, don't consider yourself damaged. Everything is perfectly fine. I struggled with this for two years and this is the only method I've found to work. You just have to knock some sense into yourself. We have no real problems. People are schizophrenic, poor, diseased, dying, tortured, their families and loved ones are killed, and we worry about stupid things that don't even make sense. Just forget about it, don't give it any more attention. It will only hold you back. That's my advice anyway, I hope it helps. |
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"the thing that sucks the most is that i can't get high and not have a serious strong panic attack anymore." That is the exact reason I gave up drugs. |
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i started having panic attacks about three years ago when i moved away from home to go to college. come to think of it, that does also coincide with some seriously increased drug use for me, but im not sure that truly was the reason behind it. mostly i think its that up until i was 18, my life was spent very much at a distance from everything else, and when i moved to california, i suddenly found myself living in a world where i cared about things. so im basically saying that i always had the capacity to panic, but never actually had anything to panic about. my best method of coping is compulsive chain smoking and alcoholism. works well enough most of the time, but when i get a bad one theres not much you can do other than live through it. |
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I like your coping method, hedphukkerr. |
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You're not alone. I started getting regular panic attacks after a major overdose on hash brownies, of all things. Fucked me up for 4 yrs, eventually abated to a manageable level. Now I get maybe 2-3 per year. I recommend maybe trying some antidepressants, and also EMDR (eye movement desensitization and reprogramming) therapy. It sounds like it might be a crock, but I actually found it to be incredibly helpful. |
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That is EXACTLY what I've been experiencing for nearly 1 year. Exactly. |
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A friend of mine suffered from them for a while a couple of years ago, he said there wasn't even anything specifically worrying him, it was just an intense feeling of fear without any cause. Eventually the attacks seemed to go away, I hope you manage to find a way to stop them. |
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THAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE WHO DONT BELIEVE IN GOD! |
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im defence, so long as you actually know where you get your weed from and youre not buying from sketchy ass creeps, that risk is completely nil. (i get all my weed from the guy who grows it, its entirely the way to go). |
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No, no, no you're not alone. |
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läget? Anxiety attacks, been having those for a couple of years now... more controlled now after hours of therapy and years of reading... |
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constantly i take ativan (lorazepam) regularly for it, it works |
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