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Life - what is the point in negativity? I have observed many people who are trapped within their own selfmade circles of negative thinking, to the point where a kneejerk reaction has been born whereby, whenever any solution to their many problems is suggested, it is immediately rejected. It is almost like many people have acquired some perverse satisfaction out of negativity and defeatism. One author who really shook up my own system was Colin Wilson, made famous in the 1950s for his book The Outsider. He writes extensively about the need for positivity and for engaging actively in life. It's a truism which many people seem to be wilfully ignorant about. Boredom, for instance, he ascribes to an individual's lack of engagement with life... people lack the energy or the will to make the effort required to engage with life and defeat boredom & negativity. But, positivity leads to positivity (or Constant Elevation perhaps). There is really no point in being negative, or allowing negativity to combat oneself. Engage Life, remain positive and active. But still - fuck advertising & marketing executives, fuck posers who adopt a cause or a look for shallow effect, and fuck so-called 'artists' who allow their music to be used like it was some kind of fucking off-the-shelf cheap-ass commodity: burn the lot of em as annual cleansing rituals. |
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Your first paragraph is who I am exactly. |
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I don't agree with some of what you state in your last paragraph, though. |
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i hit ctrl+f for 'tuss', but since nothing came up i didn't bother reading your post. sorry. |
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Wise words. I'm only beginning to realise the benefits of trying to remain positive. It's ridiculous; when I began, I kept feeling guilty for ignoring negative thoughts. Guilty! As if being positive was somehow wrong, and as if the "right" approach was to worry and to fester in "deserved" self-condemnation. It's also frightening how satisfying being defeatist can be. It's like false modesty; it's addictive, and twistedly fun for a while, but ultimately very ugly. Now. Back to the port. And Metal Gear Solid. |
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You! Where are my rats! |
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In a collage. |
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okay, i read it. do you think it's possible for somebody to enjoy their own boredom? andy warhol said he could. but then again he probably just hired a bunch of people to enjoy his boredom for him. i personally never get bored, since i dip my feminine hands into all of the creative arts, even if i'm completely aware that i'm not good at many of them. in terms of negativity, it's basically just the easy way out. that's why 90% of the posters on xltronic are negative people, because they're afraid of putting in the effort to be positive, as putting effort into something means you're going to be judged for it. |
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You just wait. There's a huge, demented, drunken poem in the works about a crow and some dead, rotting rats, and they'll be the dead-rat collage to go with it too. It'll be a sexy package, my fair child-boy/girl. |
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Hah! that made me harumph aloud with mirth, Josh. CS2x - absolutely true... there is a glazed-eye addiction to negativity, or a blame-shifting satisfaction to it. But, some people seem to never grow up, to never get past that stage to the greener pastures above. You know, when you hit your 40s and you're still totally negative and blaming everyone else because your life sucks (and it's not about your profession, your income, your social status, it's about remaining true to yourself and to what really makes you happy), then really, what is the fucking point in remaining in existence? |
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Precisely - it's easy to remain disengaged in life and to live it out in some kind of dazed malaise... but, it's easy and meaningless. I'm blessed in that I was brought up in a house with many books, and a piano, and that I took an interest in both, and had a natural aptitude for the piano. I've always had the piano as a creative outlet and it's one of very few constants in my life. We all (or most of us) get a little bored at times & a little dispirited, and it's how this is dealt with that is a key to a person's character. When I was a teenager I might have stayed in my bedroom and listened to 'The Wall' but like I said, people have to evolve within their lifetimes, to actively engage in a positive manner with life, with their own spirituality, with selflessness. |
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yeah, not everyone has lived the same life. i personally suffered through a life in an abusive household, where my only escape was my own imagination. it pretty much forced me to be creative. reality generally equated negativity and my imagination was where happiness lay. i suppose the ease in which a person can be positive is relative to the type of life they've led, whatever difficulties they had to face and triumph over (or fail miserably with). many nerds and freaks and geeks will tell you that they hate hate hate everything, but they won't tell you that it's because they were picked on their entire lives in school. or somesuch. |
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tony robbins |
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reptoids. |
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Good thread actually. I still can't get girls to touch my peepeee, No matter how positive. |
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I want to have a ménage à trois with God and Satan. |
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All the trees and animals are burning. |
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all the way marlowe. we have a responsibility to attend to our personal growth, especially those of us who are blessed with the opportunities to do so! |
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I try to be positive as much as possible, but i'm pulled toward cynicism by my insecurities. Also, the last paragraph in your first post is how you come across to me more often than not. Meaning, bitter. See: my first paragraph :( |
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You shouldn't underestimate the power of negativity, though. Sure, if it's negativity for negativity's sake, a general negativity about life, it isn't worth much, but if it's negativity about something like a political situation or other such matters, engagement is exactly what could follow! Constant positivity, the attitude that life is all flowers, overlooking the thorns of the rose and the poison of the ivy is as dishonest and easy as the opposite; bliss is often passivity, one's wallowing in one's joy. |
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I just want to be a millionaire who fucks dozens of beautiful women, takes the finest designer drugs and makes other, less fortunate people feel like shit. Is that really too much to ask? |
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You're mistaking positivity with naivete - also, positivity is an action, it's not passivity :) |
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Not really, I'm just saying naïveté is what positivity turns out as if you take the positive approach to everything; some things warrant negativity and negative responses; everything has its proper reaction. Also, you can be actively passive, doing everything in your power to avoid having to be active with regards to something else: For instance, you can be actively trying to be positive about something to avoid having to be negative about it, which makes you actively passive with regards to it, ignoring or not taking seriously certain aspects of what you're dealing with. |
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there were times when i felt blue and didn't mind it..dunno if i was being negative but i couldn't see much positiveness. nowdays i feel awesome. |
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I'm sorry, the second half of that post wasn't very clearly written. Also, I do not agree with you. |
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The choice not to act is also a choice, a choice is an activity, and as passivity is a lasting state within the individual and one that is constantly facing the possibility of activity, it has to be actively upheld by the individual; passivity is an activity. Suppression of negativity in the face of something that causes you to feel negative isn't always a good thing. As a positive individual, what do you do when you feel negative? |
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Positivity doesn't mean the suppression of negativity, it means the transcendence of negativity after identifying it as an ultimately self-defeating and destruction state of being. A person may be negative about something, and believe that positive results are being attained, but if a negative attitude is maintained, then they will soon discover that their confidence in negativity was sorely misplaced. |
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I think this thread has taken an active attempt to become positively convoluted. |
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Transcendence often implies destruction; "transcending" the state of negativity implies that you will no longer be negative, but what, then, if that's part of what you are? You can't transcend negativity any more than you can transcend yourself in any other way than by taking yourself as an object, which again means you aren't really transcending yourself, but rather your frozen image of yourself "then" or "there." Embracing negativity (and positivity) as parts of yourself is a more proper way of dealing with them, enabling you to choose your attitude towards them. Now, you may say that you choose your attitude towards negativity as a transcendence of it, but that transcendence is a negative attitude towards negativity, and the transcendence doesn't happen. Also, actually embracing yourself as being negative is a prerequisite of you choosing your attitude towards yourself being negative. When you've done this, you may, of course, keep on choosing to react to negativity with positivity, and that could well be a legitimate choice, but I'd say that in certain situations, positivity isn't the proper response; some things need to be sanctioned. |
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Variety is the spice of life and moderation is the key. success is the compromise of goals and morals. be shy, quiet and smile a lot. let people believe what they want. Don't follow the jones'. watch carefully, think logically and respond accordingly. Go with a feel. Life is chaos, it makes order and that brings balance. Moving forward in constant motion equals gravity. space plus time equals relativity. Proven scientific facts had once began as merely theories and were also considered heresy. The biggest doubters become the strongest believers. Hypocrits. Take the lead and get ahead because the first to know was already dead. |
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Keira Knightley is hot. |
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too much underbite |
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+ sharp knees |
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yes. let's all become stoned, happy Buddhists! duh... |
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I alwats thoght she look like a boy. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM |
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my connexion had broke where atr yio m w m |
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so you wouldn't and forr the rrecorrd i'd crrawl underr herr in this pic and let herr shit on my face. |
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negativity and positive are both emotional reactions to a factual physical state. the glass is either half empty or half full, but the physical truth is that there is a certain amount of water left, that amount is the truth while your viewpoint on it will have no change on the amount of water left. in essence i belive one should not have either a positive nor negative state, but rather a neutral one, a logical one. positivity and negativity implies thinking beyond the current state of the universe, which is pure speculation at best, and at worst hinders us from experiencing the present. the present is all that exists, as such it should be the only thing put into consideration. don't predict, experience. in theory humans become bored because they're not experiencing the present, they think about the future. my best moments in life are those where I'm not thinking about anything, but rather fully immersed in the present. but like someone else said a mix of various things is best, as such i keep a positive outlook on things. none of this is really possible, but a nice thought experiment i figured. |
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what about HIV positivity, hu hu |
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I lead a poz lifestyle. |
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If you walk around smiling all the time people assume you are a idiot or prescription drugs. |
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Some people seem to have been brainwashed into thinking positivity equates with: Being Stoned, Being Willfully Ignorant, Being A Hippie, Being Naive, Having A Vacuous Smile Upon One's Face. |
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And others seem to think negativity is only being depressed, being wilfully ignorant, being an old conservative man, being rude and having a vacuous frown upon one's face. |
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to me, negativity is tantamount to defeatism: the negative people I know always have problems, never solutions; oftentimes, their kneejerk reaction is to be negative to something. btw, I trust you were not referring to me in your post. |
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negative=dog_belch positive= . . . uh . . . i'll get back to you on that. |
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Yeah, as I said, too much of either isn't healthy, and because too much to one side of a dichotomy is always excluding of the other side, it is implicit that one shouldn't try to exclude either side. I also said that negativity isn't always unwarranted, and that it is in fact the proper response for certain things. Murder is, in our society, an obvious example, rape likewise. Negativity in a normal setting is a prerequisite for correction. In other words, too much and too little will not be set as the absolute zero on the scale, if one could talk about such a thing in matters such as these. It would rather mostly always be more to one side than the other, but which side would be depending on the situation you find yourself in. Then I added that you can't possibly have a positive attitude towards everything, as you'd then also have to have a positive attitude towards negativity, so if you believed yourself to be absolutely positive, you'd just be plain wrong, and not particularly honest with yourself. |
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Word. I need more positivity in my life. Its very easy to be negative all the time when you have quit the drugs. (life tends to get more boring and mundane) Positivity is the shit! We shall all be little happy gay elephants (lol ,can't stop posting "gay elephants") |
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Negativity totally creeps into daily life, yeah, of course. Personally speaking, when this happened to me, I'd allow it to wash over me, to wallow in it and to stagnate in it. Then I realised what a total fucking waste of time that was, and so when I start to feel negative, I now actively engage it and focus my energy on overcoming the negativity, and most of the time it works, and I soon go on my merry way, happier and more productive. |
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life presents all manner of problematic situations, gross and subtle degrees of suffering. acknowledging their presence is the first step. with this awareness, the next step is to gain an understanding of the causes. with an understanding of the causes, we become able to address the causes. the process of awareness, understanding, and constructively acting upon cause and affect, is the path of the 'positively inclined' mind, of an end to suffering, of happiness. these are the four noble truths of buddhism. |
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