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Ableton Live 6.0 Vs Traktor 3
 

offline B123 from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-05-08 20:48 [#02080796]
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Who here has used both for live mixing?

I was wandering what some of the pros/cons are for each. I
know traktor has a rep for being crap at recognising real
bpm's but from the interface it seems like it would be
closer to mixing real vinyl, would i be right in presuming
this? ableton is pretty smart with beats but falls to pieces
on tracks with lost of swing of multiple bpms.

so can any one here be a give me bit of a run down?
any info will be greatly appreciated.

peace


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-09 00:18 [#02080815]
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Ableton Live.

I can tell you now that that will be a much better piece of
software because not only can you mix tracks, but if you
decide to create or remix your own, you can do so either in
a studio or even live.


 

offline B123 from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-05-09 00:44 [#02080818]
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the problem i'm having is that the warp markers can sometime
be troublesome when a track swings a little, if it were
vinyl i could easily just guide the record to catch up but
once the markers are picking up the wrong tone of a song in
ableton its all over.

i guess i'll just have to spend more time warping my tracks
by hand.

Q: how do i cut a song up and save it as a new sample in
ableton?
EG: I load say REMIX by AFX off 26MFC. And using the loop
tool I seperate the first 2 bars so that the scratchy bouncy
part just continues to loop. How do I then resave this
isolated 2 bar loop as its own file so that next time I want
it I can drag it from my folder without effecting my
original file so that I may play play that too if I desire.

Sorry for the longwinded Q's.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-09 10:44 [#02081053]
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yeah the Warp Markers can be a bit tricky to do with but
they're usually alright.


 

offline B123 from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-05-09 18:00 [#02081209]
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maybe i'd get more responses if i made my topic "i hate my
life" or "why is my penis bleeding" ???



 

offline oyvinto on 2007-05-09 18:04 [#02081213]
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what really sucks with traktor is that it can't handle two
soundcards at once. the newer ones maybe can, can they, can
they farbror melker?


 

offline oyvinto on 2007-05-09 18:06 [#02081215]
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virtual dj does, but it's a a bit shitty as well, but closer
to virtual vinyl mixing, then with ableton.


 

offline jkd from Twitch City (Canada) on 2007-05-09 18:06 [#02081216]
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Q: how do i cut a song up and save it as a new sample in
ableton?

A: Go to Arrangement View. Put the part of the clip you want
to make into its own clip somewhere on the timeline. Select
it. Edit->Consolidate. Now that part is its own clip. You
can cut-and-paste it back into the Session View if you
like.



 

offline B123 from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-05-09 20:12 [#02081282]
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thank you so very much.



 

offline whoami from Dallas/Ft. Worth (United States) on 2007-05-09 20:19 [#02081285]
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when you drag a clip into ableton and goto arrangement view
and edit a sample you have, when your done editing the
sample to you have to locate the edited sample and replace
it or is there some faster way, cuz right now thats what i
do after i cut up and audio sample, go in and re-drop it.


 

offline B123 from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-05-09 20:29 [#02081288]
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so now back on to more important issues..

my sex life this, my sex life that.. who's hotter, ghandi or
the queen?


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2007-05-10 05:00 [#02081352]
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imagelines new deckadence looks pretty interesting. only for
the vst support really but guaranteed it'll be a doddle to
use. i would just really like good sounding scratches and a
nice crossfader style. abeltons a bit too automated for me
at the mo.



 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2007-05-10 05:59 [#02081359]
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if only deckadance would also play .flp files, it would be
more interesting and rising way above traktor, right now, it
just seems to me like ANOTHER 'one of those mp3 mixing
tools'.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-05-10 06:24 [#02081372]
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oyvinto - you can use mutliple soundcards in ANY application
usign Asio4All - even with older traktors.

actually calling it "djing" using ableton live is quite a
joke for me.


 

offline B123 from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-05-10 10:04 [#02081479]
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when luke vibert is playing live does he just use scratch
samples on ableton or is he using something else.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-10 10:41 [#02081509]
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Agreed.

B123: I expect he's using something else, I can't think of a
way to easily scratch a sample on Ableton.


 


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