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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-02 12:24 [#02078476]
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You are on Ratio Watch because your ratio is too low. You have 4 days 2 hours to upload 1.16 GB more (required ratio is 0.25).
While on Ratio Watch, maximum additional download before account is permanently disabled: 9.97 GB.
What can you do when you're on a shitty spanish 3mb/250 line (3mb = 750/250kbit in real internet speed.)?
I'm just watching myself loosing a great preview source for almost every one of my album buys of 2007.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-05-02 12:26 [#02078478]
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that's what i'm on. you can bloody well do it.
just find stuff, demos, whatever, that's not up there and upload your own bloody torrents, and keep them uploading 24/7
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-05-02 12:30 [#02078479]
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I had it happen once - I just ripped some discs to lossy format and upped them.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-05-02 12:31 [#02078480]
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You deserve to loose your account, you parasite.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-05-02 13:04 [#02078488]
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buy music
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trewq
from doodam (Netherlands, The) on 2007-05-02 13:11 [#02078491]
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yeah that happened to me too and im banned now fucking oink nazis
i dont want the fucking crap music with a lot of seeds so its fucking obvious im not sharing alot fucking oink wankers
hope they get hacked very hard sometime
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-05-02 13:37 [#02078501]
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best is to rip everything lossless
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OK
on 2007-05-02 14:02 [#02078507]
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yes rip losless. hell make multiple rips, lossless, 320, v0 just upload stuff
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2007-05-02 14:16 [#02078508]
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just find something popular, grab it and leave it seeding for the 4 days
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-05-02 14:45 [#02078524]
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Be wary of that - I've tried that before and it didn't work.
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OK
on 2007-05-02 15:02 [#02078537]
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yeah, if you're not 'clever' that wont work.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-05-02 15:07 [#02078541]
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artists make art, performers make money. it's good that art can be duplicated, that way more people are able to share in the experience of it. and if it was truly a great piece of work to begin with, i'm sure the original would fetch a pretty penny at auction. enough to keep the artist alive in order to continue his passionate pursuit to create. the way things persist now, musicians have come to expect monetary incentive just because they recorded something, which is how we've come to find such an overwhelming proliferation of shit artists that don't deserve a cent because they haven't actually contributed anything meaningful to their art form. that's where performance comes in. performing, is providing a service for people. that's how musicians have always been successful going back to the very beginning.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-05-02 15:34 [#02078551]
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I agree. Recorded music should serve as an advert for performance, and therefore be free.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-05-02 15:34 [#02078552]
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Or even pay out every time the listener endures it.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-05-02 15:43 [#02078553]
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Maybe when the medium catches up to the point that the Artist performs for you every time you put their "record" on.. maybe when there's enough bedroom Aphex's that each listener can reasonably expect to hire one to perform each time they want to hear fucked up dance music for wallflowers.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-02 16:13 [#02078561]
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my philosophy: listen first, buy later. quality music is the key, i will buy the music that i find worthy of buying within my budget. and you can't blame me for not supporting the underground music industry - because thats mainly what i buy.
those who i already have made their money, i have no problem downloading their music. if you can afford an adequate lifestyle, with all the pleasures the world can bring a mid-to-upperclass person. and then.. if the music is good enough - people will automaticly buy it. and thats the truth in the fucking "underground"..
and by "underground" i mean everything thats not mainstream.
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big
from lsg on 2007-05-02 16:39 [#02078574]
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mmaybe jump on new linkin park, not out just yet
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-05-02 17:19 [#02078596]
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So because they're shit you download their music in stead? Just because?
If you like the music, you buy it instead of downloading it. If you don't like it, don't do either.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-05-02 17:33 [#02078598]
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sheesh. if i didn't d/l their music in the first place i wouldn't know if it's shit or not. i'm not gonna spend however much $ on 100 cds just to find that 3/4 are shit. that's a lot of fucking money. even at 50-50 that's money i could be using to support the artists i do like, for instance; tickets to their show when they tour and merch from said shows. like i said before, if their work was any good to begin with, then the original release becomes worth purchasing. if i determine music to be shit, i don't d/l it.
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Ms Brazil
from Extremely Arrogant on 2007-05-02 17:38 [#02078599]
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Give me an invite and I'll download all your shit.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-05-02 17:47 [#02078600]
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nuevo avatar es mucho mejor
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-02 17:54 [#02078602]
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Whatwhatwhaaat!?!?!!?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-05-02 19:47 [#02078633]
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This Post costs $5 and if you read it it you agree to pay for it otherwise you are liable for the death sentence by an otherwise unoccupied CIA who are just twiddling their thumbs inbetween making up another 7/11.
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cx
from Norway on 2007-05-02 23:44 [#02078680]
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Ratio: 1.594 Uploaded: 295.31 GB Downloaded: 185.29 GB
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-05-03 04:49 [#02078762]
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heh. i got banned, but got another account : )
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2007-05-03 04:59 [#02078764]
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I can d/l anything I want with light speed, but uploading takes forever, and must create my torrents each time I want to seriously boost my ratio. stupid external IP's.
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-05-03 05:04 [#02078770]
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that reminds me, i need to open ports for my router or somthing, but everytime i try i only get a little bit further before getting stuck and confused. i tthiink i need a static ip, and i looked into that, but surely enough got stuck and confused..
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-03 05:05 [#02078771]
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well, then you know what you are going to do.. :)
laukjeldsen@gmail.com
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-05-03 05:47 [#02078781]
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im sorry! i dont actually have invites nor did i have any invites myself.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-05-03 06:17 [#02078787]
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But do you buy the albums you like? Do you think most of the other wankers on there do?
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big
from lsg on 2007-05-03 06:47 [#02078790]
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i can't believe a new generation does. though maybe you would still like to physically own stuff you really like. like, men is that materialist possibly
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-05-03 06:57 [#02078793]
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i was going to reply to this with a post about how the internet is set up with people freely sharing so much of artists music to which they should be getting money for. and how while this is bad, it does mean heaps of people are actually getting awesome accessibility to, most which we'd never get or even know of.
then i decided to not post it because it became too much of a mess and i dont even know what im talking about anymore.
its great and its terrible. in the end, i vote YES for teh internets.
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big
from lsg on 2007-05-03 07:00 [#02078794]
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it's like fighting a tsunami
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-05-03 07:38 [#02078797]
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why should people be denied access to art only because they can't afford it. surely a person can afford $15 for a cd if they really like it but people like more than just one artist and artists have more than one cd. does that mean people only deserve to enjoy and experience art if they have an excess of financial wealth? that's how it worked in the begining of music and those musicians were basically slaves. sure they had traveling minstrels but you weren't forced to give them anything, but people did. i wouldn't call someone who creates art an artist if they're only looking to gain money from it. it should be a hobby. true artists have a passion to create. they will always create whether or not they can make a living off of it or not. collecting music isn't my full time job but you know what somehow i still find time to do it. and i support my passion by working 9-5. if an artist is worth their weight they will become successful, unfortunately not every one is lucky enough to be that great. perhaps what i'm trying to say could be broken down like this: reciprocal obligation.
btw, in answer to your questions; yes. idk.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-05-03 09:22 [#02078807]
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Ok, first of all, I kind of agree that you shouldn't be denied access to art, but artists, being normal people too, have to eat, live somewhere, etc, etc. This means they need money. Sure, it'd be nice if the rest of us didn't have to pay to experience art, but the way to go about changing this isn't by illegally downloading all their music so that they don't have the time to do art professionally any more. If it was to be free, the artists would still require money for food and stuff. In some cases, the government takes care of this; They have money for aspiring artists and they hand it out, but they don't have an unlimited supply either, and they also have other things to spend money on (preferably something useful).
So, the government can't give out money to any aspiring artist, and if they could, the money would have to come from somewhere, most likely taxes. So if you were to pay more taxes for funding artists, you would not only be paying for it anyway, you would also be paying for artists you didn't like.
Most normal artists aren't looking to gain money (I don't even think the overproduced pop artists are necessarily in it for the money (their promoters, agents and record companies are a different thing)), but looking to make a living. I know a guy who is a professional musician, and it's a lot of work. He's out touring almost all the time, and when he's at home, he spends lots of time in the studio. There isn't much time for anything else, and there really isn't too much money in it either (they're well known in norway, and should be making money, but they aren't). I also make music on a hobby basis, and I do it because I love music. I wouldn't, however, dream of starting a career in it, but that's because I love philosophy more, because I feel I can do more if I do philosophy, but if I were to try, it'd be enough hard work, making a name for myself that I wouldn't have much time for other things.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-05-03 09:23 [#02078808]
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Now, I wouldn't necessarily call myself talented, but you seem to believe that if you're talented, you just have to keep making music, and attention will fall upon you as an act of god or something.. This doesn't happen. Artists, no matter how talented, have to work really hard, spending lots of time doing gigs, making new material, promoting themselves, etc, etc, to become known outside of their circle of friends.
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OK
on 2007-05-03 09:28 [#02078811]
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artists are supposed to starve.
/thread.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2007-05-04 00:40 [#02079143]
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i dunno my idea worked for black cats
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kid
from mum (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-04 07:23 [#02079294]
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ratio: 5.325, uploaded: 15.57 GB, downloaded: 2.92 GB.
heh heh
heh
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kid
from mum (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-04 07:25 [#02079295]
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just rip something and upload it man, and be sure to rip it as flac, 320 and v0. i just uploaded the new tatamax album a coupla days ago and got plenty uploads from that.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-05-04 07:28 [#02079297]
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Silly Willy
on 2007-05-04 07:33 [#02079300]
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I fucking hate sites that do that. I was on one once. Downloaded some album as my first download. Took me below the required level and they banned me from uploading/download until I'd spoken to someone. The admin got all arsey with me when I pointed out that it would've been better to just ban me from downloading until my ratio reached a better level as I'd now lost a whole days worth of uploading which made it harder for me to attain their ratio limits. Fucking idiots.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2007-05-04 10:26 [#02079376]
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damn dude are you okay
how did you cope with not downloading
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K300i
from United Kingdom on 2007-05-04 12:32 [#02079441]
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actually, it sems that most people on oink are stupid christina aguilera fans. it says that oink provides most of albums which you cant get anwhere else, or at least its an idea to create a lobby of music-lovers.
after a while ive noticed theres hardly any album you couldnt get on torrents or slsk fwiw.
more ambitious musical projects such as glacial records or hafler trio albums, etc, are hardly upped and seeded. and even when they do, its like 1/2 albums. not really a thing to be proud of if the community snatches the beatles more times than an eye blinks in a day (fact: beatles = boysband).
i would really give away my account as it seems its useless. no way to do that though..
and for sure im not going to rip of my albums to flac rapidly just to see them not beeing even snatched onto wishlists by anyone, seriously.
bunch of wankers, judged by inspection.
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Narkotic
from United States on 2007-05-04 12:54 [#02079458]
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Uploaded 168.89 GB (1.11 GB/day) Downloaded 6.31 GB (42.48 MB/day) Share ratio 26.777 It's not so bad... I got lucky and took advantage of the free downloads during christmas, downloaded over 100gb and now share all of that.
10 invites left, and none of you are getting them.
ONIK OINK mofuckas
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-04 12:55 [#02079461]
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comic genius.
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Narkotic
from United States on 2007-05-04 12:56 [#02079462]
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wonderful retort. my wit is unmatched.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-05-04 12:58 [#02079465]
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holy motherfucking C*R*A*P
my ratio's hoovering around 1 at the moment (dl/ul around 5GB)
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-05-04 13:16 [#02079480]
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There's nothing on Oink that you can't readily find somewhere else, but I miss those blazing speeds and massive artist discography torrents. There was some Prince torrent that must have been like 40 gigs, it was 2 much 2 handle.
But they did away with discog torrents a while ago... did they end up bringing them back?
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-05-04 13:55 [#02079502]
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nope. the speed's still blazin', but no discogs.
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