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The state of UK Television.
 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-25 16:21 [#02075842]
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The Underdog : a studio-based programme where 'celebrities'
train an abandoned dog.

Victoria's Empire : where Victoria Wood, because she shares
the same forename as a former UK monarch, travels around the
globe visiting former colonies, using her expertise as a
stand-up comedienne and sit-com writer to discuss it.

Those studio-based shows where a new lead for a West End
musical is sought.

Sheesh.


 

offline The_Shark on 2007-04-25 16:27 [#02075843]
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I thought you'd made those up but Google proves Truth is
Fuckier than Fiction.


 

offline The_Shark on 2007-04-25 16:44 [#02075848]
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But television is redundant as a medium, in general, or
rather, tv programming, what with the surfeit of options to
watch what you actually want to as opposed to what
broadcasters might want to impose on you. This slide into
utter shit is just their way of saying "ok, we give up" in a
post-modern, media referential stance.


 

offline The_Shark on 2007-04-25 16:49 [#02075850]
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Actually the notion of switching on the TV to watch anything
other than the news is becoming increasingly quaint. I get
"Lost" off of the torrents, like any (increasingly rare)
British TV programme that takes my fancy. Other than that
it's DVDs or old bollocks online.

Fuck telly. You had it all and you spunked it away, I've no
sympathy, you cancerous shit peddler.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-25 16:49 [#02075851]
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Definately. I dont know many people who actually sit down
and watch TV any more. Now anyone who is even slightly
internet savvy can watch whatever they want, whenever they
want.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-25 16:52 [#02075853]
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Yeah, I downloaded all of "Man to Man with Dean Learner" and
"Extras Series 2" from the internet as I was working when
they were shown.

The only three shows I really watch now are: The Apprentice,
Have I Got News For You, and Derren Brown: Trick or Treat.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-25 16:53 [#02075855]
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Man to Man with the Sci-Fi actor kills me every time!


 

offline The_Shark on 2007-04-25 16:54 [#02075856]
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Well, this is it, the lame brain remenants of TV just pander
to that addled percentage of the community that fear
computers and are quite happy to watch Alan Titwank watch
paint dry as they lay dying.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-25 16:58 [#02075859]
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I loved "Man to Man" : it didn't seem to garner much
attention, but I thought it was simply awesome: awaiting a
DVD release and a follow-up series set in their odd
universe.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-25 16:58 [#02075860]
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Eventually they will die out. On demand content will become
the preferred way of viewing. I'd like to think it'll help
smaller programme makers but I can see an average evenings
entertainment becoming a night on YouTube watching the
musings of the latest internet 'personality'.


 

offline uviol from United States on 2007-04-25 16:58 [#02075862]
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Interesting.. I watch alot of TV. Maybe I'm old fashioned..
I just like the 'live' element of it much more than things
being 'On Demand.' It seems too easy when it's all
downloadable.. there's no watercooler conversation element
left to it.

I still appreciate Youtube, Bittorrent, etc., and I realize
TV as we know it may be a thing of the past very soon, but I
like being able to sit back, flip it on, and be at the mercy
of whatever the TV throws at my eyeballs.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-25 16:59 [#02075866]
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I always enjoy it when a sporting event is on: I don't have
to pay much attention, so I can stick the headphones on &
make music or write, and glance up now and then for a few
moments without having to commit or be sucked in... Kinda
like the snooker at the moment :D


 

offline The_Shark on 2007-04-25 17:02 [#02075869]
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Well, live events, news, sport, are one thing, I sat up as
Hussein was hanged and felt the thrill of History Occurring.
But it's symptomatic that tailored material is becoming
increasingly threadbare.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-25 17:14 [#02075879]
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Today, I was watching a political debate programme. Then the
host said "keep your comments short!"

That's what's wrong with the world.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-25 17:19 [#02075887]
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You could have easily abbreviated that to: "Today: debate;
short comments!"


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-25 17:25 [#02075889]
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Or just

"bla"

"bla bla bl *HEY SHUT UP YOU'RE TALKING TOO MUCH; YOU'RE
RISKING ACTUALLY MAKING YOUR POINT!"


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-25 17:27 [#02075891]
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that's more text dumbass!


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-04-25 17:44 [#02075898]
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Youth hosteling with Chris Eubank.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-26 00:15 [#02075960]
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We get spoilt on a Friday night, then there's nothing else
on for the rest of the time:

-Ruddy Hell It's Harry & Paul
-Derren Brown
-Peep Show


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-04-26 01:44 [#02075973]
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i just saw the louis theroux docu he made with that guy,
really fucking good.


 

offline Chin Bwoy Phat from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-26 02:06 [#02075981]
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Terrestrial UK TV been fucking really really shite lately.
no decent films on, a shit load of reality TV panel, "oooh,
I want to be in a West End musical coz I'm a complete idiot"
type programs and fucking Michaela Strachan with a load of
fucking large rodents.

it's awful.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-26 02:39 [#02075988]
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"the apprentice" fits into the category described in your
first post in this thread, as far as i'm concerned.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-26 02:49 [#02075989]
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Yes, I understood the contentious nature of admitting that I
watch it; however, if it's good enough for Adrian Chiles,
then it's good enough for me! At least half the people on it
have higher IQs than the average 6hr/day+ TV viewer.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-26 02:54 [#02075990]
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true that.

"happy" 20k by the way.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-04-26 03:12 [#02075994]
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I thought UK TV was bad, until I saw Portuguese TV. It's
hilarious. Their morning TV shows (think This Morning) have
items like a local cobbler showing the tools of his trade,
awful middle aged singers you'd find in your local karaoke,
or working man's club at best and teenage girls doing dance
routines that would normally be confined to a girl's
bedroom.


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2007-04-26 08:43 [#02076089]
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I don't actually have a tv in my flat. Everytime i do watch
the tv i wonder how i ever did watch it in the first place.
I wouldn't even watch the news on tv these days. Radio 4 and
the world service cover everything in a much more
enlightening way.


 

offline Barcode from United Kingdom on 2007-04-26 08:48 [#02076091]
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TV is a funny thing, it's the domain of the bored - not that
there's anything wrong with being bored. If everybody had
very full, active social lives would anyone watch TV at all?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-04-26 09:01 [#02076098]
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And Ground Force can't be compared to Gardener's Questions.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-26 09:03 [#02076100]
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Just about the only show on R4 that I'll actually
switch off.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-04-26 09:05 [#02076101]
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What?! You can be in the same room as The Archers???


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2007-04-26 09:05 [#02076102]
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I am with you on that one.


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2007-04-26 10:38 [#02076153]
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I find BBC4 is often a real treat to watch compared to the
other channels.
Recently I watched "Tinker tailer soldier spy" and it's now
showing "Smiley's People". Both are fantastic dramas.

It's so refreshing to see a well made, well acted drama on
TV. I wish the other channels would ditch celebrities and
start making real programmes again.

I could moan on and on about what is wrong with TV at the
moment, but I think the root cause is chasing audience
numbers, rather than making quality programmes to attract
viewers.
I sometimes think "they" think the whole country is made of
women who read heat magazine and men who support ingerland
football team, if you know what I mean...


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2007-04-26 11:22 [#02076167]
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it is?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-26 11:33 [#02076171]
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What's wrong with The Archers?!


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-04-26 16:57 [#02076279]
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Emmerdale for the middle classes pal.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-26 16:59 [#02076281]
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Nah. I come from council house stock, & my mum always
listens to it.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-04-26 17:19 [#02076291]
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Is she aspiring like mine?


 

offline The_Shark on 2007-04-26 17:21 [#02076293]
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Imagine if Burial did the theme tune to The Archers.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-26 17:26 [#02076298]
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No, she aspired already, when I was 8.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-04-27 07:55 [#02076429]
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The sad thing is all those shows will probably be ripped off
for North American television. That's how things usually
work over here.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-04-27 08:07 [#02076435]
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All the best TV seems to come from the US, and the HBO
network in particular. The Sopranos, The Wire, Deadwood and
Six Feet Under are all superb shows.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-27 08:18 [#02076437]
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I have The Wire on order: I haven't seen it, but
Total Film raved about it so much I felt compelled to
investigate it.

New ITV Show, The Baron, will feature three
"celebrities" - Malcolm McLaren, Suzanne Shaw (from
Hear'Say), and Mike Reid (from Eastenders and stand-up
comedian) - who will live in the fishing village of
Gardenstown (NE Scotland), for a two-week period, after
which the locals will vote & decide which one claims the
(legitimate) title Baron of Troup. Insane.


 

offline Chin Bwoy Phat from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-27 10:24 [#02076464]
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i like House. dunno why - i've just got into it lately.
it's like X-Files, only without aliens, Mulder or Scully,
paranormal occurances, the FBI, or shit music.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-04-27 16:51 [#02076693]
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Mate, you're in for one hell of a treat. I looked it up
after seeing Charlie Brooker calling it the best TV show
ever. It's so far away from that goodies/baddies cops n'
robbers shite and I can't think of one film that holds a
candle to it on its subject.

I once read that Mike Reid's son murdered someone, then
topped 'iself. Arrt av ordah in my book.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-27 17:04 [#02076696]
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Yeah, The Wire looks like it might actually have a realistic
and natural story arc unlike a lot of shows which overextend
themselves and get more and more ludicrous.


 

offline Sclah from Freudian Slipmat on 2007-04-27 17:14 [#02076697]
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The Wire is brilliant. *contribute*


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-04-27 17:29 [#02076706]
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Not only that. It deals with the politics of the police, and
in series two, unions. And not from any left-wing
standpoint. The writer is an ex-crime reporter who clearly
knows his shit.


 


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