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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2007-04-23 01:56 [#02074801]
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PLEASE help spread alert, the worlds' bees are dying!
Without bees, we can NOT survive. Please post this on as many forums as you can.
news.independent.co.uk/enviro...968.ece
CELL PHONE RADIATION MAY BE KILLING BEES
Scientists claim radiation from handsets are to blame for mysterious world wide 'colony collapse' of bees
By Geoffrey Lean and Harriet Shawcross Published: 15 April 2007
It seems like the plot of a particularly far-fetched horror film. But some scientists suggest that our love of the mobile phone could cause massive food shortages, as the world's harvests fail.
They are putting forward the theory that radiation given off by mobile phones and other hi-tech gadgets is a possible answer to one of the more bizarre mysteries ever to happen in the natural world - the abrupt disappearance of the bees that pollinate crops. Late last week, some bee-keepers claimed that the phenomenon - which started in the US, then spread to continental Europe - was beginning to hit Britain as well.
The theory is that radiation from mobile phones interferes with bees' navigation systems, preventing the famously homeloving species from finding their way back to their hives. Improbable as it may seem, there is now evidence to back this up.
Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) occurs when a hive's inhabitants suddenly disappear, leaving only queens, eggs and a few immature workers, like so many apian Mary Celestes. The vanished bees are never found, but thought to die singly far from home. The parasites, wildlife and other bees that normally raid the honey and pollen left behind when a colony dies, refuse to go anywhere near the abandoned hives.
The alarm was first sounded last autumn, but has now hit half of all American states. The West Coast is thought to have lost 60 per cent of its commercial bee population, with 70 per cent missing on the East Coast.
CCD has since spread to Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece. And last week John Chapple, one of London's biggest bee-ke
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from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2007-04-23 01:59 [#02074802]
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announced 23 hives are abbonded
Other apiarists have recorded losses in Scotland, Wales and north-west England, but the Department of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs insisted: "There is absolutely no evidence of CCD in the UK."
The implications of the spread are alarming. Most of the world's crops depend on pollination by bees. Albert Einstein once said that if the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left".
No one knows why it is happening. Theories involving mites, pesticides, global warming and GM crops have been proposed, but all have drawbacks.
German research has long shown that bees' behaviour changes near power lines.
Now a limited study at Landau University has found that bees refuse to return to their hives when mobile phones are placed nearby. Dr Jochen Kuhn, who carried it out, said this could provide a "hint" to a possible cause.
Dr George Carlo, who headed a massive study by the US government and mobile phone industry of hazards from mobiles in the Nineties, said: "I am convinced the possibility is real."
The case against handsets Evidence of dangers to people from mobile phones is increasing. But proof is still lacking, largely because many of the biggest perils, such as cancer, take decades to show up.
Most research on cancer has so far proved inconclusive. But an official Finnish study found that people who used the phones for more than 10 years were 40 per cent more likely to get a brain tumour on the same side as they held the handset.
Equally alarming, blue-chip Swedish research revealed that radiation from mobile phones killed off brain cells, suggesting that today's teenagers could go senile in the prime of their lives.
Studies in India and the US have raised the possibility that men who use mobile phones heavily have reduced sperm counts. And, more prosaically, doctors have identified the condition of "text thumb", a form of RSI from constant texting.
Professor Sir William Stewart, who has headed two official inquiries, w
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-04-23 02:00 [#02074803]
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Did you hear about this on Real time with Bill Maher?
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-04-23 02:27 [#02074807]
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If i die when the bees die, ill consider my life as a success.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-23 02:36 [#02074810]
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NOT THE WORD BEES?!?!?!§
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-23 02:55 [#02074812]
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THE WORD'S BEE'S, MAN
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-23 03:09 [#02074815]
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DAMN?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-04-23 03:12 [#02074817]
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wood beez?
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-04-23 08:41 [#02074864]
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hey rockenjohnny, i always thought you were a funny guy, but this time.. you've let me down.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-04-23 09:01 [#02074872]
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wow, that makes two people who like my jokes :)
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-23 12:20 [#02074902]
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bee's mean'z hein'z
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-04-23 12:38 [#02074904]
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God is punishing the don't-bees and rewarding the do-bees.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-04-23 13:00 [#02074915]
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wood beez is a scritti politti song isn't it
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big
from lsg on 2007-04-23 13:28 [#02074930]
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i don't believe this
if mobile phones don't have a proven effect on the brains i sure as heck am not going to believe it's effect on bees
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melack
from barcielwave on 2007-04-23 13:30 [#02074933]
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i read it "the world bee's are djing" :S
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jkd
from Twitch City (Canada) on 2007-04-23 13:36 [#02074936]
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It's kind of a strange tale; that electromagnetic radiation from cell phones (for instance, a digital encoding of some teen saying "wazzzzuuuppp") is sending some sort of suicide message to the bees, by sheer luck.
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It_is_a_beaver_
from Happy Land! (United States) on 2007-04-23 13:43 [#02074939]
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I think we can live without bees. I mean, they sting you and stuff.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-23 13:49 [#02074940]
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actually bees are the source of 95% of the world honey which is used to keep the giant alpacas that rotate the earth both well fed and greased up. without the bees the world would stop rotating and we'd all float off into space. after about 100 years the human race would die out because although we could eat space jam we could not procreate as we would be millions of miles away from each other.
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It_is_a_beaver_
from Happy Land! (United States) on 2007-04-23 13:51 [#02074943]
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OH
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It_is_a_beaver_
from Happy Land! (United States) on 2007-04-23 13:51 [#02074944]
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MY
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It_is_a_beaver_
from Happy Land! (United States) on 2007-04-23 13:52 [#02074945]
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GOD!!!!!!1!!!111!!!!!
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jkd
from Twitch City (Canada) on 2007-04-23 13:54 [#02074946]
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I know you two are just being funny, but according to the article (and Albert Einstein, as well), bees are much more important than people realize.
CCD on Wikipedia
Bill Maher's rant
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rad smiles
on 2007-04-23 14:04 [#02074953]
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12 21 2012
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2007-04-23 14:19 [#02074970]
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i dont really eat that much honey
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DJFolklore
on 2007-04-23 16:01 [#02075025]
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I have the bee's knees. I will return them all - the guilt is killing me.......
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-04-23 16:10 [#02075026]
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It's really bizarre reading this, cause lately I've been seeing alot of bees on the ground. I thought it had to do with global warming or something.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2007-04-23 16:14 [#02075027]
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OH MY SHIT! OH MY FUCKING SHIT!
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-23 16:30 [#02075032]
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It's really bizarre reading this, cause lately I've been seeing alot of bees with human faces, laughing at me. I thought it had to do with global warming or something.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-04-23 17:27 [#02075061]
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Who said these religious kooks that go and live on comunes eating brown grass were fucked up and of no use to anyone apart from, maybe, bees?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-23 17:27 [#02075062]
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Its penises
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OK
on 2007-04-23 20:45 [#02075091]
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they're not dieing they're just vanishing
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-04-23 20:48 [#02075093]
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i'm actually interested in seeing how the world ends, that way i can tell everyone i told you so.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2007-04-24 11:24 [#02075252]
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Ok, I'll tell my fellow bees
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-05-03 14:53 [#02078919]
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no wonder! look at their penis'...
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big
from lsg on 2007-05-03 15:23 [#02078928]
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it's the phone thing that ticks me off. they'll just that first as a reason for everything bad until it comes they are right some time (maybe brain warming is good for you)
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big
from lsg on 2007-05-03 15:25 [#02078929]
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until it comes out right some time i meant, though that might be incorrect as well
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-05-03 15:25 [#02078930]
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ftw
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-05-03 15:25 [#02078931]
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"they'll just that first as a reason for everything bad"
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big
from lsg on 2007-05-03 15:29 [#02078933]
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this topic has to be deleted now
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-05-03 15:34 [#02078935]
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delete 'em all i say
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2007-05-04 01:00 [#02079153]
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"i read it "the world bee's are djing" :S"
*THIS* is the best reply to any doomsday farse!
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-06 19:14 [#02080139]
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funny how mobile phones use the same frequency range as TV signals (500-2000Mhz) and yet it's only mobile phone signals that kill bees.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-05-06 19:19 [#02080142]
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are they dead yet?
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Valor
on 2007-05-06 19:28 [#02080144]
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i'm sure bee's have killed people by causing them to go into anaphylactic reaction. so i guess i dont care about the bee's or the ecological system in general.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-05-07 04:02 [#02080231]
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Or the proper usage of apostrophes.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-05-07 04:18 [#02080233]
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that one could have done without posting
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Valor
on 2007-05-07 06:30 [#02080248]
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i was being silly, and ofcoarse i care, but do you think people are actually going to stop using their cell phones based on a study thats been posted over the internet?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-05-07 06:42 [#02080249]
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to be honest i think the whole cell phone thing is a bit outrageous. its one of those internet bandwagons as well, ive seen it posted on peoples livejournals and myspaces everywhere, which makes it all the less believable :)
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Valor
on 2007-05-07 06:55 [#02080254]
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those people probably believe it too thats the sad part.
what i should do is record a video of me putting a cellphone next to a bee and see if it wants to talk to my grandma. then i'm going to put it on my youtube. hopefully i wont get stung.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-07 07:08 [#02080256]
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this is the same pathetic paranoia as those anti-mobile phone mast people. no-one ever complains if they live next to a radio broadcaster, do they? radiowaves and microwaves are all around us anyway without the presence of mobile phones. the people who think phone masts cause cancer are retards. visible light is more likely to cause cancer then radiowaves or microwaves. i love the way they use the word "radiation" as such a dirty buzzword, as if radiation is an intrinsically evil thing.
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