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offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 14:54 [#02072619]
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Yes, I see what you're saying, it's in a state of (civil)
war. This sort of stuff isn't expected in a University.

I didn't really blame "America as a country", I blamed 3
definite things, some of which are particular about American
culture.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 14:55 [#02072620]
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Yes, and why they even let classes go ahead after the first
shooting.

There's going to be hell to pay for that.


 

online big from lsg on 2007-04-16 14:56 [#02072621]
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the sites are far apart:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6560685.stm

but, yea


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-16 14:56 [#02072622]
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Thanks. It didn't capture all of my thoughts on it, and may
seem a bit incoherent, but I'm preparing for a ~20 page
paper on it (which will make more sense), so I've been
thinking about it for quite a bit (since last semester),
which is also probably why I can't express it in as few
words as one of these boxes allow.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 14:57 [#02072623]
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I think you did, and did remarkably well.

I'd like to read that paper when you've written it. Keep me
in mind.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2007-04-16 14:57 [#02072624]
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fuck


 

online big from lsg on 2007-04-16 15:01 [#02072625]
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i just felt sorry for america, blaming the country like you
did just after the tragedy, you could say

i was not making a smart comparison, just saying bagdad is
worse. but it's the particular pain of a civil war i guess
you could say, when the evil comes from your near ones


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-16 15:01 [#02072626]
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Heh, it'll be in Norwegian, but if you can learn that by
June, you're on!


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-16 15:01 [#02072627]
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The future is going to be such a terrible place.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 15:04 [#02072628]
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bugger


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:05 [#02072629]
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It's not a question of having a "nothing we can do about it"
attitude, but it's not up to me or you to intervene and
invade America because their country is falling apart around
them and they have a gimpanzee as their token leader. I
think we should win their hearts and minds first (just like
John Lennon did in the 70s!), and let them topple their own
evils.

I'm too concerned with the shitty iCulture I seem to have
become enshrouded by here in the United Kingdom of Chav.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-16 15:09 [#02072630]
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God damned, people are all over this.. there's already a
cell-phone video, death toll ranging from 20 to 33, pictures
of it all over the newspaper webpages here...


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-04-16 15:11 [#02072631]
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Its crazy, I am off of work early and here at home....Its
all over the NET and local news channels here....

SO SAD



 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:12 [#02072632]
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I'm watching it on BBC News24 now. A reporter was asked "Do
you think this will force a change in the gun laws?" "No,"
he replied, "I don't think it will."


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-04-16 15:13 [#02072633]
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the gunshots on the cellphone VID is a creepy watch


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 15:14 [#02072634]
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fricken fricken fricken


 

online big from lsg on 2007-04-16 15:14 [#02072635]
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the anti assault rifle law passed under clinton in 1994 only
ran for ten years.. maybe that will come back (though they
just found 9mms for the moment)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-16 15:15 [#02072636]
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"It's our god damned (and god-given) right to carry guns at
all times, and if I don't have one on me I should be able to
get one within half-an-hour, AT LEAST!!!!!"


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-04-16 15:16 [#02072637]
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who made that statement?...just curious because its retarded


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:17 [#02072638]
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That's been flagged - it's not explicit is it? The only
explicit thing I like to watch is porn.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-16 15:18 [#02072639]
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It's a concoction of televised (but still real) Americans.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-16 15:19 [#02072640]
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The system should maybe be designed to give all power to
individuals with A) greatest intelligence B) greatest
altruism

If people like Jimmy Wales, Steve Wozniak and Bill Joy ran
shit, everything would be healed in a week. Or just give all
the power to slashdot or something. That's a 'new world
order' I'd support.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:20 [#02072641]
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America should be run by Atticus Finch.


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-04-16 15:21 [#02072642]
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(but still real AND IGNORANT) Americans....

Yeah I know we have TOO MANY OF EM


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 15:22 [#02072643]
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it's not, no. it's eric harris and dylan klebold in a video
they made .. saying "fricken" an awful lot.


 

online big from lsg on 2007-04-16 15:24 [#02072644]
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i saw on tv the trenchcoat mob disliked dumb people tho


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-16 15:25 [#02072645]
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the videos just a bit sad


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-04-16 15:26 [#02072647]
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self hate is lame


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:27 [#02072649]
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I can't believe that before the second spate of murder,
students were expecting classes to resume, and were
preparing to go about their business. Crazy.


 

offline Valor on 2007-04-16 15:27 [#02072650]
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how weird is that... redrum has the most replies in this
topic but yet the most irrelevant of them all.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 15:30 [#02072651]
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"but yet the most irrelevent of them all"

stunning


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-16 15:30 [#02072652]
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i agree, especially if the shooter hadnt been apprehended.
it seems completely irrational to me.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:31 [#02072653]
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how weird is that... expressing an opinion as a fact.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-04-16 15:31 [#02072654]
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Yeah.. they're coming here too.. the liberalist-populist
parties are gaining voters... People misunderstand what
liberty is, how one achieves it. You don't just remove all
restraints to the already (as self-perceived) boundless
individuals and let them roam free. That's the same as
imposing boundaries on those who are born least fortunate:
even the smallest head-start is enough to get ahead of other
people because it enables you to kick them in the face.. if
they're going to make it, they'll have to be really
fast runners so that they can catch up to you and kick you
in the face.. or something like that.


 

offline mimi on 2007-04-16 15:34 [#02072656]
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why was the reporter being interviewed?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:35 [#02072657]
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Well, the studio-based newsman speaks to the field reporter.
I'm sure you have that where you come from!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:40 [#02072658]
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I have a theory that the first two victims (a male and a
female) were personal killings and, seeing as he had time on
his hands, he walked the quarter mile to the other building
(obviously using the power of invisibility), and, knowing he
was going to die, decided to rampage a little more before
turning the gun on himself.

Maybe his last words were "You can take my gun from cold,
dead hands."


 

offline mimi on 2007-04-16 15:42 [#02072659]
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I just imagined two talking heads going off about it, i
didn't realize one of them was On Location


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:47 [#02072662]
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Ah, I see, maybe I should have clarified.


 

offline Valor on 2007-04-16 15:48 [#02072663]
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i'm versatile that way.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-04-16 15:53 [#02072665]
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that's why I included B) altruism


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-04-16 15:56 [#02072666]
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this isn't a tragedy though. us governament works hard for
these things to happen, therefore you could hardly tag it
'tragedy'.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-04-16 15:56 [#02072667]
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Wow, apparently 30,000 people a year in America die
in gun-related incidents. And the NRA are worried that
tighter gun laws would means guns would fall into the hands
of... criminals!


 

online big from lsg on 2007-04-16 16:07 [#02072671]
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i should have read the implicit 'and' instead of assuming a
multiple choice


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2007-04-16 17:10 [#02072690]
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you guys love this shit. When you found out today your mind
said "Yes!"


 

offline HmND from your mom (Israel) on 2007-04-16 17:11 [#02072691]
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Woah, a rate of 32/1. This guy got some mad skillz.


 

offline rad smiles on 2007-04-16 17:15 [#02072693]
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most of you are fucking evil.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-04-16 17:23 [#02072695]
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for god's sake


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2007-04-16 17:28 [#02072696]
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I fully admit that my first reaction to the news proves that
I am somewhat evil.


 

offline HmND from your mom (Israel) on 2007-04-16 17:32 [#02072697]
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People die every day, big fucking deal. When suicide alone
is so taboo'd by society, it's almost more beneficial to
kill others before doing that to yourself in order to
preserve your name in history.
Who would know about this guy if he just shot himself alone
in his room? No one. Now he's going to be fucking famous.
Good job to him I guess, not many people get so famous for
their entire life, helping hundreds of others, and he did it
in a couple of hours by KILLING 32.
Gotta love society.

/2:30 AM rant. Don't take me seriously.


 


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