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Ooops. here it is. too much studying today, I need some food. |
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For the people interested: The IPCC reports are widely considered to be the most authoritative written on climate change. They consider the latest scientific evidence and are written and reviewed by thousands of the world's leading climate scientists. Their conclusions are then discussed and finalised by representatives of 190 national governments. |
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i hate this debate more and more every time i see it. it's so full of ad hominem attacks by both sides that it is almost impossible to even tell what the important points are, much less debate them on their merit. for instance, the swindle guy compares the environmentalists to nazis, and alludes to the politician's political agendas. And redrum counters with "I wonder which corporations funded that movie.". both points might be valid, but neither even begin to address the factual truth of the debate. (below are hypotheticals used solely to illustrate my point) Al Gore may very well be using his movie as part of an interest generating ploy for an upcoming presidential campaign. But, that just can not be used as proof that the facts in the movie are wrong. Conversely, the swindle documentary could be funded in its entirety by Exxon, and that wouldn't be conclusive evidence that its conclusions are incorrect. Both of those could and should be considered when looking at the facts of the debate skeptically, but too often those types of points become the sole basis of the debate. Which is very frustrating to me, and ultimately makes me not even care. |
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Ceri, you'rre offit |
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NAZIS |
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the real danger is hail. |
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I still haven't got a proper reply to my question about what, exactly, is being doubted. You can say that you doubt that we are having such a large effect on the environment, but on what basis do you doubt this? Do you believe greenhouse gases to not have the effect they supposedly do? Do you believe we release less than we supposedly do? What is it you doubt? |
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THIS is the REAL danger: |
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OMG!!!! |
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Anyway, if only one person tried and changes its lifestyle in order to prevent global warming, it would already be a good thing. |
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A new report released with the effects that have already been observed. It's probably available at your local newspapers homepage, I can only link a norwegian article. |
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Also, will the sceptics answer my question? |
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There's a link to the pdf in the linked page... |
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they're still crying. it's hard to face the facts |
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Ah, so their tears are clouding their vision so they can't read the reports. |
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yeah, it's pretty emotional so i wouldn't make fun of it if i were you |
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Oops, sorry. I hope didn't step on anyone's toes. Unless they're jews or niggers of course. |
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answers?! |
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Actually, I'd like to add another question. First, to reiterate the first one: What, exactly, is it you doubt? The effect of greenhouse gases? The amount of these gases released by humans? What? Now, then... Why do you think I believe we are the cause? And what do you think I would say if you asked me "Why do you think I don't believe we are the cause?" |
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God damned, why do they drop off the now online list whenever I bump? |
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don't push it. you're getting on everybody's nerves. let them come to their own senses. if they want to reply, they will. this is not a debating contest. |
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I'm just bumping to catch their attention. This topic kind of died for a while so they could be unaware of its resurrection. And no, it isn't a contest, but this is the only place I'm likely to get a proper reply to that particular question, which I kind of need... |
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